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@aviendha - I will definitely concede that none of my points are particularly convincing or overriding from a strictly logical perspective, but let's not forget that all of my discussion was solely in support of the idea that a pair of parents might find themselves irrationally angry that their daughter was taken from them, or that they felt themselves forced to relinquish her -- but in the end they still gave up their daughter, I assume for many (if not all) of the points you've made. My goal was to try to point out as best I could that thoughts and emotional response are not always predicated on logic, as I mentioned in my initial argument, and that a number of irrational excuses could be made to justify anger at the situation. Irrationality is, after all, a basic human trait.
Don't assume I'm pulling info out my ass, lol.

This was not my assumption, nor is my argument an attack of any sort. My thoughts were not geared towards scarcity and uniqueness per se (which your article and counterpoint touch upon), but rather I was positing that it was within the realm of possibility for a family (even an aristocratic one) to resist giving up their daughter even if it meant that they would be spitting in the face of enormous honor or denying their duty; human beings are not universally charged towards the good of their fellow human beings, and I could certainly believe that a mother and a father might not care about "the world" as much as they do their own child.

Especially if -- as a generic example -- they believed that the war against the Shadow was a hopeless one and no amount of conflict or resistance would change it. Indeed, they might actually want to spare their child the horror of an unwinnable war and keep her safe against the strong possibility of a premature death. To let others die in her stead so that their daughter might live as long as possible before the ultimate end of the war. So in essence a response that would be neither rational or logical, bur rather emotional and selfish.

By the by, that article was actually a pretty interesting read. It serves to remind me how much I've forgotten about the setting and story over the years. Just picked up the first three books and intend to dive in for a refresher soon.
Noble families in all ten nations were always honored to have their daughters show the spark, especially when they are accepted as Aes Sedai. So that doesn't make sense.

That sounds ... creatively inflexible; surely it isn't inconceivable that a family would be so attached to their daughter that it would cause them considerable distress to see her taken from them? Prestige and honor are a selling point to many, I'll grant you, but it seems inhuman that every single family producing a child with the spark would gladly see that child taken from them and would never try to resist, regardless of the consequences of that resistance. As people our actions and feelings are not unilaterally predicated on logic.

@aviendha, @POOHEAD189 – I've edited Rennet's character sheet above and sent a reply to the PM chain.
@aviendha -- Sounds good. I'll make the edits in the morning, and get back to you on your request for elaboration in the PM once that's done.
@aviendha, @POOHEAD189 – Here's my first stab at a character for the game. Definitely let me know if I've gotten something wrong with the world or the lore, or if something is otherwise just not right. Haha. I'm sending the private version of the sheet your way as well though there's little on it that isn't in the post below.

EDITS: Changed stuff around per suggestions.


Name
Rennet Ferroe Kyne, Prince of Aelgar, Knight-Protector of the Shadow Coast, his Grace the Duke of Tambris and Illeset.
Gender
Male.
Age
Thirty four.
Origin
Aelgar.
Career
Prince of Aelgar.
Faction
Aelgar.
Appearance
Rennet is considered a handsome man though he errs on the side of average, as he is often neglectful of his grooming. He bears a tanned complexion and a swath of shoulder-length hair whose mottled colors range from auburn to dark brown. A habitual field of whiskers lines his jaw, near as dark in color as the molten brown of his eyes. The marks of a life spent in rigid training in the arts of combat have left him lean but corded with muscle, and he has a healthy glow about him that is somewhat belied by the echo of a thousand nights spent drowning in his cups.

Despite his general lack of interest in maintaining a crisp and imperious public image, his elder brother, father, and mother all insist on frequent visits to the palace tailor. His clothes are thus nearly always at the height of fashion and well-suited to his body; most of these clothes tend towards the darker shades of blue and gold, with touches of purple to add a dash of royalty. As his station demands he represent his connection to the nation's military, he habitually bears a well-forged blade at his side, often a replica of the heron-marked sword his father keeps locked in the palace vaults – though not even Rennet is fool enough to mark the blades he carries with the same sigil of mastery.
History
Born the third son of High House Kyne, the royal line of Aelgar, Rennet was originally groomed for a life of scholarly pursuit with the ultimate aim of serving his family in a diplomatic and advisory capacity. Throughout most of his life the closest he ever came to a battlefield was drilling in the arts of swordplay or the odd tavern brawl when he could wriggle free of his ever-present bodyguards.

During these formative years he had little in the way of interaction with the ongoing war against the Trollocs and the power which lay behind their assault. Despite his charge to become wise enough to counsel his brothers and to serve his nation, he did much to neglect or outright ignore all the hopes placed in him. Indeed, quite a number of his youthful activities can be summed up by his unofficial (and occasionally resurrected) moniker: “Prince of Wine, Women, and Song.”

All that changed upon the discovery that the second-born son of the King showed the ability to channel. Exactly what transpired following this revelation isn't public knowledge, but plenty of rumors paint a tragic picture for the King and his family. Once the discovery was made the Aes Sedai arrived to verify, and, upon seeing the truth of the matter, took him to their Tower whereupon he was made Gentle and either imprisoned within the Tower … or found himself the victim of suicide.

Regardless of his brother's final fate, this shift in the family dynamic pushed Rennet into a role he had never anticipated and was poorly-suited to. On his thirty-second birthday he was dragged from the halls of his tutors and the streets of his city and inducted into Aelgar's military, whereupon he was assigned to the commander of the kingdom's forces to learn and grow into his new role as quickly as possible. The change has been rough both on Rennet and on the soldiers he now serves with.

Whether he will rise to the challenge before him remains to be seen. What soldiers could be spared for the front in Manetheren now march towards the war, and Rennet right alongside them.
Notes
Rennet is the third son of the King of Aelgar and is being groomed to serve as a commander of the army, though currently only serves as the current commander's right hand. He doesn't have any ability to channel (though one of his brothers did have the gift before being Gentled). The Prince tends to get into trouble and – despite his role as one of the highest authorities in the kingdom of his birth – often shows a streak of anti-authoritarian behavior. Groomed in single combat and really good at it, but lacking any particular skill in the art of leading soldiers or setting plans for battle.
At what age does a male usually show signs of being able to channel?
One of the few restrictions for characters is that if you are a warder, you must have an Aes Sedai. Losing them would be too unbearable, perhaps even worse than how one feels after being gentled.

That's more or less what I was originally planning on, actually ... that crippling despondence and potential obsessive need to fill the void -- a reciprocal revenge that eventually pushes him into the hands of a Black Ajah member, and so on. But perhaps my concept was a bit too soap opera and not enough WoT! Haha.

I find myself also a little dubious about the NRP aspect, but it got me thinking about manageable groups that still have an impact. Mercenaries, perhaps? A group in the employ of a smaller kingdom that still has a hat in the ring, but whose wealth outstrips their manpower. Does one of the nations in the list fit that bill?



<Snipped quote by Sanctus Spooki>

I just started re-reading that series. <3

Amazing series! It's near the top of my re-read list as well.
I had it in mind to pursue a Warder character whose Aes Sedai had died (and dealing with the consequences therefrom), but I'm sensing an overabundance of Warders already.
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