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It would be a lot more interesting if the Bull was attacking eastern Hanarth. We'd get a lot of great story plots. Plus, it'd give your nation something extra interesting to do.
TheSovereignGrave said Click me

well that answered my question!

So is the bull attacking and pillaging eastern Hanarth?
Goldeagle1221 said
Also concerning the westward expansion, it isn't under very civil control but rather under the supervision of The Bull, a criminal lord. As a criminal lord, he can easily cause massive issues without fear of true retalliatiom, because a criminal orginization has no true borders. For example, say he pillages one of your villages for a little something, wouldn't make sense to counter attack and say seige Mallkim, a seperate entity (not saying you couldn't however). This could get interesting.


On second thought, it might be fun to have your criminal lord "THE BULL" raid border towns and villages in my country (Manas). That might create some interesting tension and drama. Maybe I can let him kidnap one of my viewpoint characters and have him ("the Bull") torture my viewpoint character or even have start a romantic relationship with my viewpoint character... similar to a slave and a master.

Edit: Now I see what you're getting at. If your criminal lord (the bull) pillages one of my western villages, then yes, the could definitely lead to outright war between my country and yours. It's up to you if you want "The Bull" to pillage one of my villages and cause a war to start.

Right now, I'm looking for interesting dramatic things/events to occur in my country that will upset the status quo!
Goldeagle1221 said
If there is to be any conflict though, at least with me, I'd want both sides to provide a map of their country so it has accurately placed movements. Basically is stops either one of use from going "cant do that!" Or "bam now I'm here" or even "where the fuck is Prokleti?" This way we know where everything is and what major area to attack first.


I never said I was going to invade you! Your country is defenseless and it is dishonorable for an elven nation to invade a defenseless country!!! I won't do it!

What is Mallkim and what is Prokleti???
Feigling said
Ok, first things first, Marmon. Very good, though I'd like to see a bit more in culture as you progress further. Just a minor gripe, and it won't stop you being accepted. Here's an official seal of approval:


What about me? Am I approved?

Feigling said Thirdy, war. War never changes. And if Marmon's getting involved, so will Torin. Protecting our interests and all.


Is Marmon going to war with someone? I thought Marmon was expanding west to gather new territory. That's why I put a lot of buffer between me (the nation of Manas) and the Kingdom of Marmon, so that way Marmon could expand to the west without going into conflict with me (Manas).

LancerDancer said
@Lunamaria: You could always move down south, Adjutor Insula is a Europeanesque Crusader State, and Karkarth, from what I could gather, is some kind of Mordor inhabited by dragon-humanoids. The cultures of the south are diverse, owing to the Pagan War from yesteryear that I never really elaborated on because I didn't want to mess with anyone's plans. However, it would stand to reason that things would be a dandy blend of European, Slavic and even African cultures, due to the post-Crusade nature of things. You know, if I stick with my Pagan War set up, I imagine that following the successful crusade some centuries earlier, then several states akin to Adjutor rose and fell, giving everything a nice smattering of colours.


Maybe I can get the GMs to approve me having two nations. A north Manas and a south Manas. The north manas can be exactly where it is right now -- east of Fristreek and south of Hanartha, but the south Manas can be directly east of Adjutor Insula... on the big antarctica continent.
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yay! thank you, SovereignGrave, for letting me have fleet in between your two Hanarthian peninsulas!

However, I fail to see how I would have a war with Frisstreek if they're expanding southward. I have no land south of Frisstreek.

I do have land west of Marmon, so I guess there's a potential war possibility there.

Edit: But with Marmon in the state that he is, I don't really want to war him as he's sorta defenseless.
Great! Then we can have a war! If someone like Hanartha is expanding south that is...

I know for sure that Marmon is expanding westward, which is why I gave some room for him.
I agree. If you think it's too difficult to accurately create an country with an african culture without knowing a lot of about its diversity, then I agree. I will simply move my nation a bit more east, away from your country and its surrounding "african" regions.

So I have moved my country a bit more east. Will this suffice, Mr. Co-Gm??

Position on Map -

The only problem I foresee now is that I don't have much of a border with the ocean. So is the guy who is in control of Fristreek (Mr. CorinTraven) be willing to let me have a fleet presence in the ocean/bay to his east? If not, will the guy who is control of Hanartha (SoveriegnGrave) be willing to allow me to have a coastal fleet in the middle of his country?
Ok. I have done three things, Mr. Co-GM! :
1. I changed my country's name from Menes to Manas because there was some problem with Menes sounding too close to Memes.
2. I changed my country flag so it doesn't rip off imperial japan.
3. I deleted the part about "nobody in my nation is fat". There are now fat people in my nation.

To address your fourth concern, which is that my nation's culture lacks enough african traits, I would happily change my nation's culture so it does have african traits. However, I am not knowledgeable of what African-traits are. So if you could, could you list some things I could add into my nation's culture so it looks more african?
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