mdk

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The way I see it, Andreyich is making a claim. Without providing evidence, his claim is baseless. I don't care about the articles, but I do care about him claiming that he has evidence that the 60,000 people at the rally espoused little to no views that call for genocide. While his claim isn't necessarily wrong just because he doesn't provide evidence to support it, it's basically useless. I could say that the 60,000 people at the rally espoused the view that the world is flat, and it would be a claim that's equally as baseless and useless as his.

@catchamber

Or for instance, someone could claim that the rallies called for genocide, and it would be a claim that's equally as baseless and useless as his.

You're getting this concept, right? "THEY WERE RACIST." Ho, hum, okay then. "Uh, I was there, they weren't." WHERE'S YOUR PROOF YOU USELESS BASELESS MORON!?!?

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I'm not saying the people that were present at the rallies believe one thing or another. Rather, media articles Andreyich is criticizing are saying that some of the people present were far-right and/or fascist, but he's saying that he has evidence that they espoused little to no views that call for genocide. If he actually has evidence to back up his assertion, I'd appreciate it. I obviously won't ask the writers of the articles for their proof, because they're not here.

@catchamber

You should already have their proof, because that's exactly their job.

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Can you explain how, by being in Warsaw when these rallies took place, you know that the 60,000 people which were present espouse little to no views that call for genocide? If you spent just 1 second sampling each person's views, you'd have spent at least 16 hours sampling all 60,000 people. I'm rather skeptical that you accomplished such a feat, but if you have any quantifiable statistics to back up your assertion, I'd love to review them.

@catchamber

I know I'm gonna regret sticking my nose in this, but that's not how this works. "You can't prove that literally zero people are X" is not an argument.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

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You dont know who jason kessler is, so your understandin of the context on a poll presented by him is limited, I dont know how else to tell ya, you need more info. You can be stubborn about it but dont start bashing the thread cause you dont have a decent response.

@Dynamo Frokane

k.

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@mdk Understanding who the guy is, is definitely important to understanding the context of the twitter poll, a bit more research is needed to better understand the point I'm making too.

@Dynamo Frokane

I..... need to do more research to understand the concept of trolling? I've been in this thread long enough, I think I get the concept by now.

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@mdk I wonder if a lot of the people voting no just did it to troll kessler, because you know he's white nationalist and that's not particularly popular with people on the left or the right, surprise surprise.

@Dynamo Frokane

I know literally nothing about the guy, so maybe you're right. Still -- the undoubtedly-deliberate-trolling of "It's okay to be white" has spawned a remarkably enthusiastic and seemingly heart-felt rebuke from, like, actual people. WELL -- from police and corporations, which are both (I think?) technically people. But also twitter, which, like, SOME OF THEM are people. So... statistically, probably people, yeah, I'll stick with that.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

so um

apparently this is a debate, and apparently it's got nearly equal numbers on either side, and apparently that's not in the least bit racist.

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Are you 100% sold on that source?

@Dynamo Frokane

Nope. I actually scrapped a Newsweek link for this one, and it's being reported elsewhere too, like news.au and whatnot. Ultimate source is NASA, and I know they're already working on some supervolcano nonsense at Yellowstone, which I guess means this could be a ruse (the yellowstone thing could make a lot of money).

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I AM NOT A SCIENTIST

but this would seem to be an alternative source of sea level rise/polar ice decline. Unless we're going with that questionable theory that global warming causes volcanoes.

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@mdk dont eat the pasta

@Dynamo Frokane

seasoning the pasta, sir. I was only seasoning it.

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It's been 365 days since Trump won the election! You'll have to wait another 24 hours for the anniversary of Hillary's concession though, because hangovers are hard.