mdk

Spoilerifically spoilerish spoiler thread: Star Wars 8......

Was worse than Phantom Menace. This was the worst Star Wars movie ever made. Fight me.

Let's Discuss Thoughts on Net Neutrality

While I understand the argument for both sides, I would rather not have ISPs pick and choose which sites I can access or pick the speed at which I can access it. Yes, if they were smart, they wouldn't charge for sites like Google, but if your current ISP is the only one you can get in your location, you're kind of S.O.L. for choices.

Consider this: did you vote for Ajit Pai, or for his opponent?

The answer of course is "neither." The FCC is an unelected, poorly-regulated, non-representative administrative entity. If you're in the camp -- and full disclosure, I'm not -- but if you're in the camp that thinks Net Neutrality's death is the end of the world, well, you've kinda proven EXACTLY why the FCC should have nothing at all to do with it. You protested, you posted, maybe you even called your senator -- and it all meant precisely nothing, because you have no say whatsoever in what the FCC does. They do not answer to you, and they will never answer to you.

Net Neutrality placed more power in the hands of the FCC. You've seen what happens now, when the FCC wants to do something you don't like. The lesson here is, you really didn't want them to have that power in the first place, regardless of your thoughts on the hypothetical issue Net Neutrality was intended to address.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

I love how most of the people that are congratulating Alabama for voting Jones are just pretending to care. And they will probably say how Alabama is still racist and inbred.

@The Spectre

The tolerant left.

But they oughta care, they paid for it.

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I did not see your challenge until after I replied to Sleepy, so yeah I did. Though I had already heard of such things through other media, I just wanted to double check. I've been on board with Doug Jones policies for awhile, though I will say that he's a big proponent for the second amendment, something I believe you can agree with, yes?

@POOHEAD189

I can't imagine anyone getting elected in Alabama without (at least officially) supporting the second amendment. But yeah.

The irksome thing for me about the Moore-Jones deal was, like.... Okay the racist ad was bad, but the one he was running before that (currently apparently purged from the internet? five seconds of googling did not produce it), where he basically argued that republicans wanted to run over minority children, was like some of the shittiest politicking I've ever seen in my life, and I was around for THREE FOUR clinton campaigns. And some of those allegations against Moore are shady (the yearbook signed in two different colors, for instance), so my mind goes to character-assassination (which isn't a stretch -- he was literally nobody until the allegations surfaced, and Moore fervently denies them).

W/E. This, apparently, is what fills up the Senate. It was either going to be an (alleged) perv or a hatemonger, and both would fit in with the other pervs, hatemongers, liars, race-baiters and racists in the congress. Tell me with a straight face we don't need to drain that swamp.

(edit: forgot about Hilary v1, where she started the Obama-is-a-Kenyan bullshit that Trump ultimately bit on)

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I challenge you to name one policy of Doug Jones without googling it.

@mdk

Just like how in policy, Doug Jones believes climate change is an issue and more accessible health care is a good thing, while Roy Moore does not.

@POOHEAD189

....shit.

wait did you google it though? be honest.

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@POOHEAD189 It's such awful (and very racist) pandering...it's getting into Hillary Clinton "I carry hot sauce everywhere" levels. (It's not "true" either. It's not even saying "black person", it's saying specifically "black man." Which might as well be a Freudian slip with text. Does that assume that a woman would be hired in that case?) It's just stupid. Not saying Roy Moore needs to be your (or anyone's) choice. Just I wouldn't be jumping to vote for either of these people.

@SleepingSilence

2016 tried to be like "I'm gonna be the most no-win scenario of any election ever," and then 2017 was like "Hold my beer."

But how is he out of touch through policy?

@POOHEAD189

I challenge you to name one policy of Doug Jones without googling it.

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Perspective.

That's Gawker -- very much on the left, I'm just taking them at their word that this is an honest reaction to one of their own on the ad.

Head to the comments for even MORE perspective, if you prefer.

Frokane's Mildly Politcal Hangout Thread

You see, religion is a lot like sports. You're born in America, you're more than likely to be Christian and a football fan. You're born in Japan, the chances of you being Buddhist and a fan of baseball (they love it there) are damn high. It's all situational. And the beliefs continue on to adulthood. They believe what their parents and society tells them to, not what they feel is right. I'm not saying that's the case for every single person, but the ones that go against the flow are a few and far in between.

@Xandrya

Not trying to banter or insert myself or whatever, just.... Reaching the same conclusions as your parents does not imply a lack of independent thought. "Ones that go against the flow" are no more (and no less) thoughtful than "ones who don't." An absolute moron can rebel, and a wunderkind genius who spends every minute of every day in rapt study, can concur. The ends are no indicator of the means.

And btw, no judgments from me on either the moron or the genius. If you assume there is a higher power then they're both stupidby comparison; and if there isn't, then their intellectual investment is irrelevant. I'm of the opinion that truly great minds wouldn't bother with the debate in the first place, because ultimately (in any religion or lack thereof) intellect doesn't enter the eternal equation.

That said I'll debate it all day, fite me. I'm just another moron clinging to guns and religion.

.....guess I am inserting myself, fuck. Whatever. Bourbon is fantastic.

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meanwhile

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Worse thing is, I've actually seen an SVEST go off.
Seen the charge fail too, never turns out good for the bomber though...
VBIEDs are imo the worse, but SVESTs are horrifying.

@cpldingo

The VBIEDs are (much) stronger, but the vests go anywhere. If he'd done it right, made it into the subway system or even just blown it properly, the effects underground (in a pressurized tin can) woulda been pretty nasty. Thank god he was retarded.

Whattaya think Mad Dog does to repay the attempt? THAT is something I wanna see. We got like fifteen more MOABs and they're not getting any younger.