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Nation: Ukrainian State (Ukrayinska Derzhava)



Leader: Hetman Anastasiya Artemivna Solovski

Location (on map): Most of modern-day Ukraine minus the westernmost and easternmost portions and Crimea.



History:

After the assassination of the Tsar of the Russian Empire in 1952, the resulting tremors and quakes exposed the ever-present cracks in Russian society and state. New movements and old alike, Bolshevik and reactionary, republican and nationalist, took the opportunity to rise and compete for control over what became an increasingly fractured empire. This took some great time to build up to outright civil war and conflict, but when it did, the ideology which has proven itself by far the strongest of all human ideas was the first to take advantage of it. This ideology was nationalism. While the other forces certainly were at work in Ukraine, the common bonds of nationalism led to the Ukrainian nobility, bourgeoisie and peasants alike uniting for a brief time to secure their independence from an increasingly fragmented and shattering Russia. With the central government in disarray, the Ukrainian Provisional Assembly formally declared independence on December 14th, 1954, claiming all lands with a majority Ukrainian population. In reality, however, this would prove to not be the case, as further troubles loomed once the question of independence was settled.

On May 1st, 1956, the Ukrainian Bolsheviks staged a massive revolt centered in the major cities of Kiev and Kharkiv. They pronounced the formation of new Soviets, and the entire Provisional Assembly was executed in an effort to instill terror on the other segments of the population. However, the main forces of the army, still in control of the officer corps made up of the traditional nobility, were able to galvanize support in retribution for the Bolsheviks' actions. They surrounded Kiev and after a defiant yet brief defense by the Bolsheviks, Kiev was retaken. The commander of the army, Artem Yurijovych Solovski, seeking to cement the power structure and buoyed by a wave of popular support, was crowned Hetman of Ukraine by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church on June 25th, 1956. However, the Bolsheviks were able to retain their grip on power in northeastern Ukraine, and remain one of the primary antagonistic groups faced by the new Ukrainian monarchy.

Over the next three years, Hetman Artem Yurijovych struggled to lay the new foundations of power, but succeeded in doing so by fostering a close relationship with the ascendant capitalist class in Ukraine as ever greater numbers of former peasants came to the cities as nobles enclosed on communal farms in order to remain prosperous. A strong military-industrial complex was formed, catalyzed by intensive state investment and need for war materiel in ongoing skirmishes with bordering Russian splinter states, the Ukrainian Bolsheviks, and Tatar Crimea in the south. In the just-finished 1960 census, the Ukrainian State had a population of approximately 42 million people, mostly Ukrainians with a minority of Belarusians living in the northernmost, newly conquered regions. His rule was popularized by his highly jingoistic, patriotic speeches and efforts to recover the remaining land that he considered part of the de jure Ukrainian patrimony, and republican sentiment has been quelled by close relationships with the largest industrial magnates and a barebones constitutional framework governed by the legislature, the Verkhovna Rada. The monarchy, however, retains primary control and power to override its decisions.

In April of 1960, however, the 43-year old Hetman Artem suffered a stroke and after a few days of intensive care, died. His only heir, his 20-year-old daughter Anastasiya Artemivna Solovski, is set to assume the throne. The coronation was decided by the Rada to take place on June 25th, 1960. It remains to be seen whether such a young female successor can hold together the new monarchy her father had built, as many doubt a female's martial prowess and ability to hold this coalition together.

Characters:

Hetman Anastasiya Artemivna Solovski - reigning constitutional monarch, Ukrainian State. Born November 22nd, 1940.

Vadym Stepanovych Antonenko - Prime Minister of the Verkhovna Rada Parliament, leader of the Ukrainian National Democrats. 43 years old.

Zynovij Trokhymovych Denysenko - High Lord of the Verkhovna Rada Senate. Officially not with any Parliamentary party, but de facto controls the Panslavic Unity Party. 67 years old.

Valentyn Vasylovych Vashchenko - The SZR (Foreign Intelligence Service) Minister, in charge of domestic and foreign information gathering and espionage.

General-Polkhovnik Ruslan Mykolovych - One of the two most senior officers in the Ukrainian Royal Army, known for a warlike, reckless temperament.

General-Polkhovnik Valentyn Stefanovych - One of the two most senior officers in the Ukrainian Royal Army, known for a cautious, more diplomatic temperament.

Major Khrystyna Yehorivna Antonenko - special ops commando, Ukrainian Royal Army. Codename Чорна. 31 years old.

Colonel Viktor Ruda - In charge of the Ukrainian Royal Army special forces, the Pryznyach.

Hryhoriy Hrynko - former General Secretary, People's Republic of Ukraine

Products:

-Zroya: Late Imperial Russian semi-automatic rifle.
-Otchestvo transport helicopters: A variant of a helicopter formerly produced by the Russian Empire, now produced by Ukraine and used by the Ukrainian Royal Army.

Organizations:

-Verkhovna Rada: The bicameral Ukrainian legislature. The senate is composed of the high nobility, the parliament elected in a traditional democratic fashion. Both must pass a piece of legislation in order for it to go to the Hetman for signing.
-Ukragaz: The Ukrainian state oil and natural gas company, which monopolizes all production in the country.

Places:
-Kiev
--Mariyinsky Palace: Residence of the Hetman.
---Throne room
---Hetman's personal room
---War room

--Verkhovna Rada: Home of the Ukrainian State legislature.
---Secretariat of Ministers room
---Senate hall
---Parliament hall

--St. Sophia's Cathedral: Most important cathedral in Kiev, site of the Hetman's coronation.
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Apart from the name situation, my only concern after was the time lapsed between the czar's death and the break down of order in Russia itself and curious how you came to this.


You said that the situation would start to happen in 1955, if I read correctly, I was just rolling with that. I didn't really understand, though, I figured it would have started falling apart immediately and would have went with Ukraine basically being the most ordered bit since it seceded very early on before the chaos really reached its peak.

Edit: Found it.

I'm sure I alluded to the Russian situation as it were beginning sometime during the later side of 1955, so it's up to you guys to find the precise year.
I won't accept anything where the history is changed prior to World War 1.

@Shyri

I haven't forgotten you, I just don't have time. I'll be back in a couple hours to read the app.


I'd still like to know if I'm actually accepted myself, actually. You suggested some changes to the names, but you didn't really provide a clear answer in the positive or negative~
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East Poland is Polish. *gasps*

Anyways, it makes little sense that a 5 year old government can maintain control over most of their core territories, half of Belarus, and all of Eastern Poland. Especially when the same government doesn't even have full control of the Ukrainian population. In comparison, Poland as a state has existed long enough to actually hold it's cultural territory.

If you really want to get into it.

That said, I had been talking over the details of Germany over the last couple days with Aaron and Vilage. I didn't just look at what you put down, take a paintbrush to it, and scribble over what you have.


Western Belarus is Polish, you mean.

That being said, Aaron's suggestion is probably most accurate considering the post-Russian chaos.
Just because the Cossack Hetmans were elective doesn't mean that the title can only ever be that. You'd just be invoking a title associated with Ukraine's Cossack past for the sake of cultural legitimacy, which is something that Monarchs and Dictators love to do. The constitutional details are whatever you want.


Agreed.


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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy


Okay, yes, but I hate elective monarchies. And since this is a reactionary nobility-led state, it's more influenced by Russian than Ukrainian political traditions, despite the origins in a republican, nationalist secession.

May be better to ally yourself closely to the German Empire by electing a member of German nobility as the King rather than some random general.


But I refuse. Someone needs to stand up to the Germans. Look at him, he's already made part of what I had claimed as western Ukraine as part of Poland, and that's not even his darn country.
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[Coughs in Ukrainian]


*clicks on link*

"officially known as the Ruthenian State or Zaporizhian Host (Військо Запорозьке, Viys’kо Zaporoz’kе)"

That being said, I did see all that but assumed that considering the Hetman was an elective role it would make little sense to call a genuine monarchy that. And they would at least have the conception of monarchy from the Russians, who, considering the makeup of the nobility, would still be majority in control of the country.

That being said, I'll go with Vilage's suggestion and call it simply Ukraine and the leader as Hetman. Given that, is my application acceptable?
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Use the terms "Hetman" and "Hetmanate" with the Ukraine. It fits their identity more comfortably and makes it feel more Ukrainian. Practically speaking it doesn't necessarily change the function of your government in anyway.


"Hetman" has no historical or linguistic basis as a demonym or the name of a country, it's only titled that in historical terms because the general/military leader of that state was called the Hetman. It certainly holds no basis in a monarchy. If we're going to be entirely correct on that, it should be called the Kingdom of Zaporizhia.

And Zaporizhia, further, is only a region of southern Ukraine. It's a bit absurd to use a short-lived comparatively small Cossack state as the entire basis for a new Ukrainian kingdom.

To tell you the truth, I wanted to call it Galicia-Volhynia, as that has a much stronger historical basis even if it is further removed in time. I'd be happy to go with that if you think it's preferable.
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Ayyy!

So how do you want to do this?
A Traditionalist vs Socialist split where its the Imperials vs the Communists or whatever?
The Imperial Conservatives vs the Modernists who want Japan to stop being so Jingo Japan?
People who like white rice vs people who like brown rice?


I'd just like to say I very much appreciate your Kurumi signature, I finished that anime yesterday lmao~

Aaaand here's the app. Entirely open to negotiation on the details, but I wanted to leave most everything surrounding me to be decided by negotiation between the relevant bordering powers, particularly Poland and the Baltic States. Also, if you want it longer, I can try, but there's only so much fluff you can add to a 5-year history.

Nation: Ukraine



Location (on map): Most of modern-day Ukraine minus the easternmost portions and Crimea, southern Belarus.


History:

After the assassination of the Tsar of the Russian Empire in 1952, the resulting tremors and quakes exposed the ever-present cracks in Russian society and state. New movements and old alike, Bolshevik and reactionary, republican and nationalist, took the opportunity to rise and compete for control over what became an increasingly fractured empire. This took some great time to build up to outright civil war and conflict, but when it did, the ideology which has proven itself by far the strongest of all human ideas was the first to take advantage of it. This ideology was nationalism. While the other forces certainly were at work in Ukraine, the common bonds of nationalism led to the Ukrainian nobility, bourgeoisie and peasants alike uniting for a brief time to secure their independence from an increasingly fragmented and shattering Russia. With the central government in disarray, the Ukrainian Provisional Assembly formally declared independence on December 14th, 1955, claiming all lands with a majority Ukrainian population. In reality, however, this would prove to not be the case, as further troubles loomed once the question of independence was settled.

On May 1st, 1956, the Ukrainian Bolsheviks staged a massive revolt centered in the major cities of Kiev and Kharkiv. They pronounced the formation of new Soviets, and the entire Provisional Assembly was executed in an effort to instill terror on the other segments of the population. However, the main forces of the army, still in control of the officer corps made up of the traditional nobility, were able to galvanize support in retribution for the Bolsheviks' actions. They surrounded Kiev and after a defiant yet brief defense by the Bolsheviks, Kiev was retaken. The commander of the army, Artem Yurijovych Solovski, seeking to cement the power structure and buoyed by a wave of popular support, was crowned Hetman of Ukraine by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church on June 25th, 1956. However, the Bolsheviks were able to retain their grip on power in northeastern Ukraine, and remain one of the primary antagonistic groups faced by the new Ukrainian monarchy.

Over the next three years, Hetman Artem Yurijovych struggled to lay the new foundations of power, but succeeded in doing so by fostering a close relationship with the ascendant capitalist class in Ukraine as ever greater numbers of former peasants came to the cities as nobles enclosed on communal farms in order to remain prosperous. A strong military-industrial complex was formed, catalyzed by intensive state investment and need for war materiel in ongoing skirmishes with bordering Russian splinter states, the Ukrainian Bolsheviks, and Tatar Crimea in the south. In the just-finished 1960 census, the Kingdom of Ukraine had a population of approximately 42 million people, mostly Ukrainians with a minority of Belarusians living in the northernmost, newly conquered regions. His rule was popularized by his highly jingoistic, patriotic speeches and efforts to recover the remaining land that he considered part of the de jure Ukrainian patrimony, and republican sentiment has been quelled by close relationships with the largest industrial magnates and a barebones constitutional framework governed by the legislature, the Verkhovna Rada. The monarchy, however, retains primary control and power to override its decisions.

In April of 1960, however, the 55-year old Hetman Artem suffered a stroke and after a few days of intensive care, died. His only heir, his 20-year-old daughter Anastasiya Artemivna Solovski, is set to assume the throne. The coronation was decided by the Rada to take place on June 25th, 1960. It remains to be seen whether such a young female successor can hold together the new monarchy her father had built.
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Feo/Shyri and I were talking about the Russian situation on Discord, since he was probing for what he could get away with in Russia. The conclusion met in the end is that since I didn't add any date to the Russian collapse that it's relatively new. Regions like Russian-Poland and other ethnically/culturally dominated regions like Crimea (Tatars) or anywhere in the Caucuses might be more capable of forming what would be described as a nation, on the whole the civil war in Russia is pretty new; which also lends into why I'm erring on the side of caution now on a repeat of the Polish-Ukrainian mess; we can kind of sit down and do it "right".

At the same time, given the Polish situation by the time of the First World War and before with so many other entities wanting to cast their chips into the ring for a Polish nation (if anything, Germany, Austria-Hungary, and Russia wanted a Poland that if it existed would be aligned to them) that Poland would probably be a political dueling ground for national interests, never mind the fears someone might end up loosing territory. So in this situation, Poland may not be strong enough to move on anyone and would be at political odds between German and Austrian interests now.

I'm sure I alluded to the Russian situation as it were beginning sometime during the later side of 1955, so it's up to you guys to find the precise year.


I was thinking that pent-up Polish nationalism would have lent itself to a strong rebellious state forming in defiance of German interests, and I wasn't sure how Austria would have held up in light of the problems they continued to have all the way up to WW1 that lead them to the brink of collapse even with the shorter war in reality.

That being said, I'd also see your situation as more plausible and I think I may just go with a simple Ukrainian monarchy in respect of that. Not sure I'd enjoy being ground under rival powers' heels that much, so this is more out of the way.
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