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I'd love to help you guys, but you're so darn far east that I can't even pretend to try.

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If I have decided to stay in Central America, then I would be in a weak state. And that would give Mexico and/or Colombia reason to attack and take land.

@The Spectre

This isn't EU4 or Civilization or something. Mexico and Colombia aren't just going to randomly attack you and take land for no logical reason other than simple expansion, for the same reason that Mexico and Colombia don't do that in real life. Mexico hasn't fought a war with an external power since 1867, and Colombia since 1933 (and that war ended with no transfer of territory).

Even if a player does take over, I consider the likelihood of them actually consistently IC posting fairly low. There's a reason South America was considered the Bermuda Triangle of players last RP.

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Ah, and here's what I think my map claim entails on this map as well. I included Bolshevik Ukraine simply because that's a vital part of my canon and I'll be controlling it as the main antagonistic group for my country for at least the first several months. (Also, it's impossible to clearly delineate with this level of province detail) Crimea is still perfectly open for someone else to control since it's not critically relevant, but if no one does I'll end up RPing using them as well.

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Also, if you go for a government in St. Petersburg, we can roll with saying it's funded/supported by the Germans as the "true" Russian government. Don't really have the reach if you go for a Moscow-based one though.

@The Spectre
I think that, by the fifties, the British would be well off enough to retaliate in force to any attempt at their Caribbean territories.

@Shyri

Oy, oy, get out of my region comrade. You've already got Poland and Lithuania, but you can't stick your fingers in every pie you find~

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To make things funner we can toss a third city into the mix, if my knowledge of the source of the Russian nation banter is correct; though this is in a post-Soviet world.

Folk say it's Saint Petersburg, because that's what Czar Peter built and he's the one that officially founded the Russian state. Muscovites claim it's Moscow because Moscow was at the center of the state Peter was born into and ruled from to found Russia, never mind he moved the capital of the Empire to Sankt Petersburg.

Then there's the people of Novgorod, who have the claim to the Rurik dynasty who came on invitation to impose order and whose dynasty moved out from to seize the lands that made the Rus kingdoms. Though this claim may be nationally small, but that's also because the Soviets repressed Rurik's legacy because it was too foreign, Danish/Swedish in fact.

But in any case since the royal family had ties to the Germans and also invited many Germans to live in the Empire itself the precedent for German involvement in the area is already pretty strong either way.

@Dinh AaronMk

Also that Moscow was the capital and namesake of the Grand Duchy of Muscovy, which was the predecessor of the Russian state. So it has greater historical roots and legitimacy.

I was thinking about using the Kievan Rus as the basis of a new claim to East Slavic hegemony myself.

Also, welcome back Hugs, good to see you again.

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Nation: Ukrainian State (Ukrayinska Derzhava)



Leader: Hetman Anastasiya Artemivna Solovski

Location (on map): Most of modern-day Ukraine minus the westernmost and easternmost portions and Crimea.



History:

After the assassination of the Tsar of the Russian Empire in 1952, the resulting tremors and quakes exposed the ever-present cracks in Russian society and state. New movements and old alike, Bolshevik and reactionary, republican and nationalist, took the opportunity to rise and compete for control over what became an increasingly fractured empire. This took some great time to build up to outright civil war and conflict, but when it did, the ideology which has proven itself by far the strongest of all human ideas was the first to take advantage of it. This ideology was nationalism. While the other forces certainly were at work in Ukraine, the common bonds of nationalism led to the Ukrainian nobility, bourgeoisie and peasants alike uniting for a brief time to secure their independence from an increasingly fragmented and shattering Russia. With the central government in disarray, the Ukrainian Provisional Assembly formally declared independence on December 14th, 1954, claiming all lands with a majority Ukrainian population. In reality, however, this would prove to not be the case, as further troubles loomed once the question of independence was settled.

On May 1st, 1956, the Ukrainian Bolsheviks staged a massive revolt centered in the major cities of Kiev and Kharkiv. They pronounced the formation of new Soviets, and the entire Provisional Assembly was executed in an effort to instill terror on the other segments of the population. However, the main forces of the army, still in control of the officer corps made up of the traditional nobility, were able to galvanize support in retribution for the Bolsheviks' actions. They surrounded Kiev and after a defiant yet brief defense by the Bolsheviks, Kiev was retaken. The commander of the army, Artem Yurijovych Solovski, seeking to cement the power structure and buoyed by a wave of popular support, was crowned Hetman of Ukraine by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church on June 25th, 1956. However, the Bolsheviks were able to retain their grip on power in northeastern Ukraine, and remain one of the primary antagonistic groups faced by the new Ukrainian monarchy.

Over the next three years, Hetman Artem Yurijovych struggled to lay the new foundations of power, but succeeded in doing so by fostering a close relationship with the ascendant capitalist class in Ukraine as ever greater numbers of former peasants came to the cities as nobles enclosed on communal farms in order to remain prosperous. A strong military-industrial complex was formed, catalyzed by intensive state investment and need for war materiel in ongoing skirmishes with bordering Russian splinter states, the Ukrainian Bolsheviks, and Tatar Crimea in the south. In the just-finished 1960 census, the Ukrainian State had a population of approximately 42 million people, mostly Ukrainians with a minority of Belarusians living in the northernmost, newly conquered regions. His rule was popularized by his highly jingoistic, patriotic speeches and efforts to recover the remaining land that he considered part of the de jure Ukrainian patrimony, and republican sentiment has been quelled by close relationships with the largest industrial magnates and a barebones constitutional framework governed by the legislature, the Verkhovna Rada. The monarchy, however, retains primary control and power to override its decisions.

In April of 1960, however, the 43-year old Hetman Artem suffered a stroke and after a few days of intensive care, died. His only heir, his 20-year-old daughter Anastasiya Artemivna Solovski, is set to assume the throne. The coronation was decided by the Rada to take place on June 25th, 1960. It remains to be seen whether such a young female successor can hold together the new monarchy her father had built, as many doubt a female's martial prowess and ability to hold this coalition together.

Characters:

Hetman Anastasiya Artemivna Solovski - reigning constitutional monarch, Ukrainian State. Born November 22nd, 1940.

Vadym Stepanovych Antonenko - Prime Minister of the Verkhovna Rada Parliament, leader of the Ukrainian National Democrats. 43 years old.

Zynovij Trokhymovych Denysenko - High Lord of the Verkhovna Rada Senate. Officially not with any Parliamentary party, but de facto controls the Panslavic Unity Party. 67 years old.

Valentyn Vasylovych Vashchenko - The SZR (Foreign Intelligence Service) Minister, in charge of domestic and foreign information gathering and espionage.

General-Polkhovnik Ruslan Mykolovych - One of the two most senior officers in the Ukrainian Royal Army, known for a warlike, reckless temperament.

General-Polkhovnik Valentyn Stefanovych - One of the two most senior officers in the Ukrainian Royal Army, known for a cautious, more diplomatic temperament.

Major Khrystyna Yehorivna Antonenko - special ops commando, Ukrainian Royal Army. Codename Чорна. 31 years old.

Colonel Viktor Ruda - In charge of the Ukrainian Royal Army special forces, the Pryznyach.

Hryhoriy Hrynko - former General Secretary, People's Republic of Ukraine

Products:

-Zroya: Late Imperial Russian semi-automatic rifle.
-Otchestvo transport helicopters: A variant of a helicopter formerly produced by the Russian Empire, now produced by Ukraine and used by the Ukrainian Royal Army.

Organizations:

-Verkhovna Rada: The bicameral Ukrainian legislature. The senate is composed of the high nobility, the parliament elected in a traditional democratic fashion. Both must pass a piece of legislation in order for it to go to the Hetman for signing.
-Ukragaz: The Ukrainian state oil and natural gas company, which monopolizes all production in the country.

Places:
-Kiev
--Mariyinsky Palace: Residence of the Hetman.
---Throne room
---Hetman's personal room
---War room

--Verkhovna Rada: Home of the Ukrainian State legislature.
---Secretariat of Ministers room
---Senate hall
---Parliament hall

--St. Sophia's Cathedral: Most important cathedral in Kiev, site of the Hetman's coronation.

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Apart from the name situation, my only concern after was the time lapsed between the czar's death and the break down of order in Russia itself and curious how you came to this.

@Dinh AaronMk

You said that the situation would start to happen in 1955, if I read correctly, I was just rolling with that. I didn't really understand, though, I figured it would have started falling apart immediately and would have went with Ukraine basically being the most ordered bit since it seceded very early on before the chaos really reached its peak.

Edit: Found it.

I'm sure I alluded to the Russian situation as it were beginning sometime during the later side of 1955, so it's up to you guys to find the precise year.

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I won't accept anything where the history is changed prior to World War 1.

@Shyri

I haven't forgotten you, I just don't have time. I'll be back in a couple hours to read the app.

@Dinh AaronMk

I'd still like to know if I'm actually accepted myself, actually. You suggested some changes to the names, but you didn't really provide a clear answer in the positive or negative~

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East Poland is Polish. *gasps*

Anyways, it makes little sense that a 5 year old government can maintain control over most of their core territories, half of Belarus, and all of Eastern Poland. Especially when the same government doesn't even have full control of the Ukrainian population. In comparison, Poland as a state has existed long enough to actually hold it's cultural territory.

If you really want to get into it.

That said, I had been talking over the details of Germany over the last couple days with Aaron and Vilage. I didn't just look at what you put down, take a paintbrush to it, and scribble over what you have.

@Shyri

Western Belarus is Polish, you mean.

That being said, Aaron's suggestion is probably most accurate considering the post-Russian chaos.

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Just because the Cossack Hetmans were elective doesn't mean that the title can only ever be that. You'd just be invoking a title associated with Ukraine's Cossack past for the sake of cultural legitimacy, which is something that Monarchs and Dictators love to do. The constitutional details are whatever you want.

@Vilageidiotx

Agreed.

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Nation: Ukrainian State (Ukrayinska Derzhava)



Location (on map): Most of modern-day Ukraine minus the westernmost and easternmost portions and Crimea.



History:

After the assassination of the Tsar of the Russian Empire in 1952, the resulting tremors and quakes exposed the ever-present cracks in Russian society and state. New movements and old alike, Bolshevik and reactionary, republican and nationalist, took the opportunity to rise and compete for control over what became an increasingly fractured empire. This took some great time to build up to outright civil war and conflict, but when it did, the ideology which has proven itself by far the strongest of all human ideas was the first to take advantage of it. This ideology was nationalism. While the other forces certainly were at work in Ukraine, the common bonds of nationalism led to the Ukrainian nobility, bourgeoisie and peasants alike uniting for a brief time to secure their independence from an increasingly fragmented and shattering Russia. With the central government in disarray, the Ukrainian Provisional Assembly formally declared independence on December 14th, 1955, claiming all lands with a majority Ukrainian population. In reality, however, this would prove to not be the case, as further troubles loomed once the question of independence was settled.

On May 1st, 1956, the Ukrainian Bolsheviks staged a massive revolt centered in the major cities of Kiev and Kharkiv. They pronounced the formation of new Soviets, and the entire Provisional Assembly was executed in an effort to instill terror on the other segments of the population. However, the main forces of the army, still in control of the officer corps made up of the traditional nobility, were able to galvanize support in retribution for the Bolsheviks' actions. They surrounded Kiev and after a defiant yet brief defense by the Bolsheviks, Kiev was retaken. The commander of the army, Artem Yurijovych Solovski, seeking to cement the power structure and buoyed by a wave of popular support, was crowned Hetman of Ukraine by the Ukrainian Orthodox Church on June 25th, 1956. However, the Bolsheviks were able to retain their grip on power in northeastern Ukraine, and remain one of the primary antagonistic groups faced by the new Ukrainian monarchy.

Over the next three years, Hetman Artem Yurijovych struggled to lay the new foundations of power, but succeeded in doing so by fostering a close relationship with the ascendant capitalist class in Ukraine as ever greater numbers of former peasants came to the cities as nobles enclosed on communal farms in order to remain prosperous. A strong military-industrial complex was formed, catalyzed by intensive state investment and need for war materiel in ongoing skirmishes with bordering Russian splinter states, the Ukrainian Bolsheviks, and Tatar Crimea in the south. In the just-finished 1960 census, the Ukrainian State had a population of approximately 42 million people, mostly Ukrainians with a minority of Belarusians living in the northernmost, newly conquered regions. His rule was popularized by his highly jingoistic, patriotic speeches and efforts to recover the remaining land that he considered part of the de jure Ukrainian patrimony, and republican sentiment has been quelled by close relationships with the largest industrial magnates and a barebones constitutional framework governed by the legislature, the Verkhovna Rada. The monarchy, however, retains primary control and power to override its decisions.

In April of 1960, however, the 55-year old Hetman Artem suffered a stroke and after a few days of intensive care, died. His only heir, his 20-year-old daughter Anastasiya Artemivna Solovski, is set to assume the throne. The coronation was decided by the Rada to take place on June 25th, 1960. It remains to be seen whether such a young female successor can hold together the new monarchy her father had built, as many doubt a female's martial prowess and ability to hold this coalition together.

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elective_monarchy

@Dinh AaronMk

Okay, yes, but I hate elective monarchies. And since this is a reactionary nobility-led state, it's more influenced by Russian than Ukrainian political traditions, despite the origins in a republican, nationalist secession.

May be better to ally yourself closely to the German Empire by electing a member of German nobility as the King rather than some random general.

@ethanjory

But I refuse. Someone needs to stand up to the Germans. Look at him, he's already made part of what I had claimed as western Ukraine as part of Poland, and that's not even his darn country.