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Kriemhild
"Your ritualβ€”if you can even call it thatβ€”sent us to a park, near a large, red iron bridge. There's a red glow lining up the horizon and the smell of smoke and charred flesh coming from the city at the other side of the river," Kriemhild answered the questions from Chaldea's staff in a matter of fact tone. Perhaps a delivery that was a by too dry and nonchalant considering that what she described was basically a city turned into Hell on Earth, but nothing that was unexpected given her experience with this type of scenarios.

She was sitting at a nearby bench, facing the river, with her staff resting on her shoulder as she waited for the Master that came with them to wake up. When the transmission came she didn't bother facing the faulty holographic projection as she continued, "You don't need to worry about the girl's health. Once we came here I healed any wounds she might have suffered."

"I was wondering how long it would take for you to find that out. These creatures are everywhere. It's very likely that there's no living person left in this city if this is the state it's right now," Kriemhild said before producing a handful of dragon teeth and tossing them at the ground. From there emerged a small band of Dragon Tooth Warriors, who proceeded to fend off their skeletal brethren in a grim, mechanical-looking battle between mindless constructs.

"I suppose that we should begin our search sooner rather than later. Destroying these creatures won't do us any good. May I ask if the two of you have any means for that, Archer and Lancer? Otherwise, I can do it, but it'll take a long while before I can search the whole city using runes," she said to the other two Servants.
Alright I'll just come out an say it. I am not the main character. Leon is not the main character. He is reused so much because I don't feel like making characters for roleplays that more often than not die. Leon is not me. Brynhildr is not the main character. Saber, Rider, and Lancer all could take her in singles combat. Most stories, and rpg have predetermined plots.

Also this roleplay has quite literally been making me miserable to the point where it is physically effecting my enthusiasm in real life. And since no one seems to like it how about we just end it. Cancel it. I have no intention of sitting here, and be insulted, or treated like I'm trying to do something I'm not actually doing. The story has predetermined hard points. That doesn't mean it will not, and cannot change. Characters can die. On both sides. But not at the start of the fucking story. What's the fucking point of killing off characters at the very start of the story. Killing off main characters is in bad taste, and depowers the players. Nothing I say seems to be changing your minds at all. In fact it just seems to piss everyone off. Which in turn leads to more of the first sentence.

So lets end it because I'm sick of this. All of this. I'm not suicidal, or some dumb shit I'm just sick of trying to be neutral, and being unable to convince everyone I'm not against them, and am just trying to write a story with other people.


Well, that's not good to hear.

In that case, I suggest that you taking a break is indeed for the best. There's no use in getting mentally and physically sick over something as irrelevant as a RP.

Apologies if I attacked your mental state too much. However, in light of these circumstances, it's something you probably should seek help for. I know you said that you are alright, but when it comes to the problems of the mind, no one really knows what they have inside of them.

Just take a breather and, if you need to, get some professional help.
@vancexentan
That's what I was saying as well. A scripted RP isn't the problem. If you want to be the main character of your own story, or even all of the meaningful characters while handing predetermined roles to the PCs, so be it, that's your choice.

But at least letting people know in advance what to expect is a bit of courtesy. And maybe allow others to have a role into how the story should play as well? Otherwise, what's even the point of having other players? You could just write fanfiction and have the same, if not better results, since you wouldn't have to deal with this kind of questioning everytime you strongarm the story to fit your creative vision while choking the players' actions.

We came here expecting one thing and are being served another, at least I did, so it's natural that we might want to talk things through. Which is what I believe everyone here is trying to do except for yourself so far.

Why not try it now?
It is what it is. I prioritize the story I intend and not end style may 20 rolls deal with that as you will I'm done. In tired of being the bad guy every u single time you think I make something you dislike.


What do you even mean?

Regardless of it, I'm sure that it's an out of proportion reaction.

Either way, if you care for the story so much that you don't leave much choices for players to do anything, you could have advertised the RP as such. It would be much more transparent.

That said, I know why you don't do it. No one wants to join railroad style games, so you don't advertise as such despite this being one. This is very disingenuous since it leads to this kind of situation.

I'm not being hostile towards you, I just wanted to get some sort of middle ground out of this. Is it so hard?
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Archer thought Just like before, Archer ignored Rider's taunts and words. Only a fool would boast so much in the middle of the combat, especially when they aren't even aware of their enemies' abilities.

He could take his honor and choke on it. This was a forest, and Atalanta was a predator on the hunt. He would be the one playing by her rules.

Instead of words, what he would get would be arrow after arrow fired at him, and his mount, from all directions as Archer continued to reposition herself on the battlefield over and over again. Their numbers quickly growing to dozens and more dozens, each one nearly invisible and carrying certain death if they were to make their mark.

This effort would also work in Assassin's favor which was part of Atalanta's motivation to do so. If Rider allowed himself to pay attention to anything other than her arrows for even a moment, he would find himself the recipient of a volley of arrows.
There is two different planned endings to this roleplay one that Saber will take the charge of, and the other Caster will. Killing off the enemy servants will happen, and the masters. However this is literally chapter 2, or 3 do you want me to let you kill off main Opposition characters in the literal first warm up fight. I don't intend on ramming Lancer down with the full force of a god-worshiping semi-truck in Saber, or have her make mince meat of Assassin who doesn't have the same faults as her current opponents and would not fair nearly as well. The plot will change, and alter later it is too soon for characters to die, and it is too soon to drastically change anything. This conversation to me at least is the equivalent of why Princess Leia didn't get shot in the face as soon as she was sentenced to death by Tarkin. If everyone feels like It I'll let them kill Lancer, berserker, and rider then let you all bum rush Archer, and Assassin before Caster, and Saber show up for chapter five and the rp ends.


You are taking this quite out of proportion. As seems to always be the case when someone points any manner of questioning towards you regardless of the person's intention.

The gist of the issue is. It's a collision between a large number of Servants all at once. No one coming out of this dead would be far more unrealistic and stupid. And we aren't even considering Noble Phantasms.

Also, you are just railroading the story in a way that's unnatural. Taking other players to have a passenger's seat on your own story in the way you are is quite inconsiderate. Especially when you don't advertise it as a linear plot where we have few, if any chances of influencing the outcome of the story.
Well that's why I'm letting your character run instead of trying to force her to fight Rider on his terms while being attacked by our equivalent of the sylvanns from dragon age.

At the end of the day the guy's coming out alive. I didn't question you, your servant, or your master's sensibilities during the fight. I said why lancer isn't killing him outright. The two aren't some sort of god tier servants they're just getting taken easy on, and lancer is my servant in this case so I am in control of how seriously she is taking this fight. If you really want me to force Saber in just to show how broken he is just to solve the matter I don't intend on doing that. Killing a master off so early is not on the table for a fight I intentionally kept away from the other servants, and needed something for my characters to do.


I'm not questioning Brynhildr's reasons. I'm just saying that, Atalanta will try to shoot him down if there's another chance. Saber or not Saber being involved in the scene doesn't matter since she still isn't aware of him. She'll just do her thing.

Also, you are saying that we can't influence the outcome of the story at all, is that it? Even if we have the appropriate abilities and motivations to do so, no matter what we do, until you "feel" like it, we can't do anything.

What part of this is even a roleplay?
Because they're coming upward towards her from the ground, and its not just one tree she's on but quite a few in the general vicinity. Not all of them but more than just two, or three. If I really wanted to hurt your character enemy archer is still in the center of the forest on the high ground.

As for the blue boy he's barely holding his own, and Lancer is not going full out on him. If nothing else she does pity him because of hero's bridemaid. The only other option was to have Saber come up, and block them himself but he's not going to show up to later. Archer shooting them down is absurd given the circumstances and insulting. The guy in blue really isn't in it for himself just as Lancer says. If I really wanted her to Lancer would kill him. Originally berserker of red was to fight Lancer but since our berserker charged in face first, and left the others out there I needed to give him, and opponent and Archer doesn't make well just pegging people from the grey castle. Assassin is arguably the weakest of the enemy servants and isn't fit to fight either Lancer, or berserker outright and it would make little sense for him to engage her directly instead of staying in the forest. And Saber would run Lancer through in a one on one fight because of his skills.


Well, if you read what I wrote, Atlanta isn't staying in one place so unless these roots are faster than her, they are never gonna touch her while she's moving.

As for the boy stuff.

I don't care for his circumstances, neither does Atalanta. She's canonically the type of Servant that would shoot you in the back without any remorse if she thought that you are weak, simply because that's how nature works and her mind follows the logic of a wild beast.

If he got into the war grounds but can't hold his own, the only thing he deserves is to become prey, in her opinion.

If Archer sees another chance to shoot him again (even if it's on the back), she'll take it. But for the time being it's not her priority.
@vancexentan

PS: Just to be sure, I don't mind not killing that Master right off the bat, but if you could have done it in a way that doesn't make it seem so absurd and disproportional to what even a Top Servant would be able to do in this situation, it would have helped a lot.

Dealing with Atalanta + Achilles tag team in the woods was one of the hardest challenges the Black Faction had to face on Apocrypha. And one of the few instances of proper Servant combat there. You could at least make it seem like these enemies aren't so broken OP in comparison to canon.
There's bounded fields around the forest to detect movement if nothing else. The red girl called Lana just blocked the blow at the last second. She got lucky. If you really want me to call it a GM fiat so be it I didn't do it to insult you, or archer. I'm not even trying to keep her where she is with the cursed trees like I could. She hit the trunk but didn't do much about the roots that were attacking it, nor in the first place should she have been able to actually hear the challenge as I didn't intend it to be that loud in the first place, nor would his smell be that easy to figure out given he's nearby some chimera most of which have wounds due to Anderson ontop of the nearby skeleton army, and Rider approaching nearby.


Why would she have to bother with the roots if she didn't get anywhere near them? Before the branch broke she had already jumped away. If you really want me to make a fool out of my character and ignore her skills so be it, she can be caught in the roots, otherwise, her Crossing Arcadia and A Rank AGI are more than enough for something as childish as broken branches not catching her off guard.

Also, what you did with those humans just requires Instinct A to have a chance do, so it's nice to know that we are fighting Humans with the same ability in combat as King Arthur. Very nice indeed.
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