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So Boerd said
Fine then. If you are allowed to "No True Scotsman" an atheistic ideology, I get to disqualify every other religion, and not only that, I am allowed to disqualify how every other person but me practices my faith, and as I have not killed nor in fact used violence on everyone, religion=Gr8!


You technically are allowed to do this to some extent when talking about religion, as religion does in fact require people to adopt a certain set of morals.
Magic Magnum said
1. That is true, but it does make it far easier to do so. And acts as a way to get loyalty from people you would otherwise not have the loyalty of.

2. That's also true, but it doesn't mean religion doesn't function as a way to worsen/amplify humanity's more violent and barbaric behaviours and tendencies.


1. It depends on the religion. Atheism doesn't state there is a god, but it does mean there's no competition, either. However, in a monotheistic religion, there's a finite number of spots open. Christianity itself actually tends to invert the cult of personality, as they tend to be paranoid about the whole Antichrist thing.

2. You still have to address what people follow INSTEAD of religion, and if following that would be truly better. In the example of Communism, the answer is decidedly not. Sure, religious people have done awful things, too. However, using Bin Laden to make judgements about religion in general is basically the same as using Stalin to make judgements about Atheism. The problem isn't religion itself, it's that there's multiple competing worldviews that can't stand each other. Sure, everyone being Atheists would end most problems associated with religion, but so would everyone being Catholic.

And one more thing: Atheists often claim moral superiority to Theists on the grounds that they don't commit the same crimes they do. Even if we were to assume this is true, that might not be enough. While people do bad things in the name of their religions, they also do lots of good. There's a reason why lots of hospitals are named after saints. Has anyone ever done anything good in the name of there not being a God?
Blox said
144,000 huh? Any meaning behind that?


It's an allegory for Revelation 14:1, which goes: "Then I looked, and there before me was the Lamb, standing on Mount Zion, and with him 144,000 who had his name and his Father’s name written on their foreheads."
It's usually inferred to mean something to the effect of "believers during the end times".
Lewis was cleaning guns when he heard the announcement. It was about that time when he decided that he was a free hand.
With a certain enthusiasm, he strapped on an armor vest, put on this hat and then grabbed an SMG before running out the door.

When he arrived, he noticed a cyborg and a robot talking with each other. He recognized the machine; it was Chen. He stopped, and proceeded to catch his breath.
He made sure his armor was on right and then spoke.
"Hey, guys. Am I late for the expedition?" he asked.
I was thinking I'd like to do an RP set in a cyberpunk version of the biblical end times. I mean, the end times are in the future, so no reason not to add some advanced technology into the mix, right?

Our RP's plot would go something like this: In the future, a major catastrophe occurred, killing well over a third of the human race overnight. Insanity ensued, and within a decade or so, civilization was on its knees. However, in our time of need, we found hope! For a new Global State formed to unite all humanity under one banner so that we could build a new utopian* society, under our new leader, Adrian Delmore. Little does most of humanity suspect, however, that Delmore is in fact, the Antichrist.

Our characters would be members of a team of 144,000 covert agents who are tasked with setting up some kind of rebellion.


Would anybody be interested in this?
Against the turquoise grass plains of Xeria, the golden fields of Zion Colony's agriculture may seem out of place.
Zion was a colony that was old, but not very large or influential. It had been built alongside a river, and near a mine. Farmland gave it food, the river gave it water, and the mine gave it income.

Against the river, pointed southwards, was the capital building, which doubled as a watermill power generator. On top of the building was a dark blue flag, with an image of a compass and a square (as in, the tools) drawn in light blue. Inside the compass and square was an image of an eye. To the left of the logo, was the Latin word "Annuit" and to the right "Coeptis". The was the national flag of TWR, the relatively new government organization that Zion had sworn fealty to.

The building faced a sea of NASA modules (where the slightly richer lived), log cabins (where the lower middle class lived), and tents (for the very poor). To the west were flea markets, where people sold things in their off hours. In the very center of the city was the entrance to the mine. On both sides of the city were farms. The entire city was surrounded by a single chain-link fence.

From the capital building came the voice of the captain speaking through his intercom.
"Testing, testing. Citizens of Zion. I have a very important announcement to make. Just south of our colony, another mining settlement has seemingly disappeared. TWR would like us to send a team to go investigate. All free hands should head towards the front gate. Captain, out."
Magic Magnum said
We've covered this with you many times now Boerd. Communism, Mao, Stalin etc. were never done in the name of atheism. They were simply assholes who wanted power, never did the go "In the name of there being no god!" or anything like that. Hell those examples are actually very religious by nature, setting someone in charge and forcing everyone to essentially worship them, treat their word as law and giving them unlimited power.


Communism is inherently atheistic, though atheism is not inherently communist (objectivism is atheist and basically the opposite of Marxism). However, what Communism does reflect two things:

1. We don't need religion to create dictatorships or worship people.

2. Atheists who believe that religion is detrimental to human progress sometimes commit the same crimes associated with religious extremists.
Shall I start the IC, or is anyone still waiting on approval?
Magic Magnum said
Barely do I find an atheist who is doing it out of rebellion or hate for the world.


I have to agree wit Magnum, here. Very atheistic, nihilistic ideologies such as Nietzche's or Ayn Rand's tend to be very optimistic about human nature and the world (Humans are so good, that just by following our first hedonistic urge we can make the world a better place). The bible, by contrast, is rather cynical (basically, "the world" is a horrible place that can only be saved by divine intervention, one that Christians should try to distance themselves from somewhat). Mind you, I tend to agree with the bible's cynicism. Case in point, though: the world being a terrible place is a prediction of the bible, and it would actually make more sense for Atheists to be optimistic by nature.
Hm...I suppose there would be, actually.
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