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Not quite, Void shield shunt stuff into the warp meaning they're impenetrable even the Necrons IIRC. So not sure how you want to play that one, I'll leave you two to discuss that.
USS Aurora - Near Coruscant
His science officer had drawn his attention to small ships that appeared to be following them. While they appeared to be no threat, he was not prepared to go weapons hot or warn them off - the military capacity here was a total unknown and quite sensibly he did not want to awaken the slumbering beast. Left with nothing else to do, bided his time until they were near the edge of the system - not that it mattered with warp drive but he'd rather be safe then sorry, especially with hundreds of crew aboard. Unnecessary risk was not a good thing.

"Captain do you want me to send a transmission to those small ships?"
"Maintain radio silence Kate, for the moment. We'll monitor what happens with the other ships and if need be come back into the system."
"You're volunteering for boarding?"
"Not on your life." He said matter-of-factly. But if we can establish peaceful relations, that would be better. For now there are a lot of ships around here, and the situation feels kinda volatile."
"See how it develops you mean?"
"Precisely."

For over half-an-hour they maintained course and speed. Not deviation and yet the small insect type ships continued to go their course. It wasn't until someone uttered the comment.

"Anyone got a fly swatter?"
Laughter erupted across the bridge, briefly.
Marcus then brought that to a close when he said....."Trouble is, we might get the same treatment from their ship."
A sombre atmosphere followed. "Thanks for bringing reality back with a thump."
"No problem Commander." A wry smile alighted the corner of his features.

It was all a waiting game now.......
mattmanganon said
... Even though I said that most of my ships weapons were disabled by the trip so that they couldn't do specifically that...


Lances are in the hundreds of gigatons
Torpedoes 610 GT each, each ship has hundreds of these.
Cannons are KE weapons and are in the dozens of megatons+
mattmanganon said Rogerd's entire argument is that my guys could go and blow up a planet whenever they felt like it.


Rubbish, my argument was that you pack far more firepower than anyone and can one-shot ships and no one can do anything about it.
Sep said I apologize for not jumping in sooner I was busy.


No worries dude.

He's likely still have Gellar fields though, as these stop nasties from entering while in the warp.
mattmanganon said No, I'm sorry, but you ask anyone out there, Star Trek is THE most OP tech out there. And, not only are you running it, but you're letting someone else also run an even more advanced version of it. And now I am asking for something that, not only has been agreed to be on the level by 2 other GM's (Raidne and Assalya), but has also been heavily nerfed from the original canon and you tell me "No, it's OP" when you yourself are running a CS with tech thats only limit is "Plot convenience" And let's not get into the fact that someone else has a ship that has the power of a small galaxy, but another that has more WMD's than crewmen. I'm asking for a ship with a number of Super Soldiers, backed up by an army who's only job is to last long enough to yell "For the Emperor" before redecorating the battlefield with their brains.It astounds me that I'm the one being called OP, when another of the people here has a weapon that actually could take out the entire Imperial navy in a single shot.


I'm not even prepared to go into all of the incorrect statements you've posted above, they're not even relevant. Matt I've tried to be pleasant about this and you've been confrontation at every step. So stop it.
@ Matt: Actually as it happens Void Shields. These are designed to stop energy and kinetic attacks.

So let's just save the arguments and pick something else?

EDIT: if it was a personal RP then a Space Marine would be kinda cool in SW.
@ Matt - okay you're cherry picking the examples, and one missile has an output of 610 GT, and that is standard armament. Trek has to actively use resources to do that, like Voyager had to prepare the material for their isoton yield stuff. Plus I never mentioned phasers in my reply.

In short, no to 40k.
Matt - why not just go Babylon 5 Excalibur type ship, it's got huge firepower (it could waste and ISD in one shot with main guns) with a 30 second cool down where it has zero power, not even thrusters. It would keep everyone happy. Why not do that?
mattmanganon said Also, after reading those posts about ships power, I would like to point out that all of those posts refer to entire fleets of vessels, rather than a singular one.


Not at all, each quote refers to munitions from one ship and there are many more out there.

said These projectiles vary more than the nature of the cannons themselves, ranging from sophisticated plasma warheads which burn with the ferocity of a small star for a fraction of a second, to implosive devices which exert destructive gravitational forces upon all those caught within several thousand kilometres of the detonation."
-Rogue Trader RPG : Battlefleet Koronos, page 15


said "Four Gothic-class cruisers--Intolerable, Invincible, and Righteous Force--awaited four parsecs from target. Each ship carried 100 Hellfire nuclear missles. Each missle 122 warheads, each with a firepower of 5 GT. If boarding action fails, nuclear missiles will turn a ship to dust."
-Space Hulk Rulebook


Each missile has an output of 610 GT.

As a result of Disney canon, most Wars ships have firepower in low megatons, tops, nothing more.

mattmanganon said Plus, if we're going with the ability to glass a planet, Star Trek ships have that very power. Khitomer was glassed by 3 Romulan Warbirds in the space of an hour.


Going by visuals, dialogue, and tech manuals - there are a few outliers and these are them.

mattmanganon said The Galactic Empire has roughly the same technology as the Tau Empire (Minus the railguns), which are known to give the Astartes a run for their money.When you really think about it. Astartes are physically superior, no doubt, but everyone else is far more technologically advanced. 40K tech is the Warhammer (Pun intended) to Trek tech's nimble Rapier.


Not at all dude, 40k tech is leagues above TNG Trek, it isn't until you start going forward to late 25th-26th Century that Trek seems to surpass them, at least from the minimal stuff we know, or have seen. Can they dial up their yield under extreme circumstances, e.g. Voyager with fictional isoton yields- sure, but as a general rule they do not have those handy. Sorry but 40k is a no-go here.
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