Sable — Roleplayer Guild

Brovo said
. I'm sorry, if a game like Homeworld 2 or Bastion doesn't get to be art because the entire industry got thrown out of being considered art because some games art is ridiculous. Some books are straight up pornography, does that mean we should no longer protect books as art? Some is straight up five year old noodle drawings about penises, again, does that mean we should stop considering art as something sacred that needs protecting from censorship?Sable is completely and utterly wrong here. Games art. They are more than capable of being a form of human expression and have blatantly displayed that time and time again. They're capable of visual marvels and churning out beautiful stories. Now, I know you like Jade Empire, so imagine if Jade Empire never got to be a thing because it features a lesbian romance in the game at a time where homosexuality was still extremely volatile in the United States. Imagine if Jade Empire had to remove all mentions of eastern mythology Gods because it might offend some of its eastern audience in how it portrays them. Etc.We consider games an artistic medium because it protects them from censorship, and allows us to explore potentially sensitive narratives within the context of gameplay. The shit-tier games get left behind and the stuff of legends gets propped up to the top. Not considering games an artistic medium would be insane and would open the doorway to do the same to movies and books, slowly eroding one of the few bastions of true freedom of expression we still have.

Aside from the fact that critics in favor of video games as art are few and far between, aside from the fact that interactivity and video games' need to pander to the masses detracts from its artistic value, there is a problem with the universalizing phrase "video games are art" just because they are forms of human expression.

Twilight is a form of human expression, do you call that art? What about the products of my kindergarten finger painting lessons? Is that shit art? Because that's the implication of saying all games are art. Arguing for protection as an artistic medium is a completely different argument, and not the one I'm making here. Protecting video games as an artistic medium? Fine, whatever, but don't tell me that I can hit record, squat in front of a camera and take a shit and call it art.

Two different arguments. And on top of that, absolute disrespect of any criticism. "Sable is absolutely wrong." I compromised and admitted there was potential for video games to be art. What have you done to actually have a conversation instead of stroking the dude to your left in your circlejerk? Fuckouttahere with that mouth breathing fedora shit.

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