TentacleLord

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Reducing it to forty-five tons works nicely. That wraps up about everything. Accepted.

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Because your vehicle weighs eighty tonnes, thus contradicting the use of your claim of lightweight materials, and your subsequent use of an MBT as an example. Things that are splayed out to the side don't work, with spiders being a premiere example. They can't get bigger than they already are, due to, as you already mentioned, the square-cube law.

Splayed out legs do not work, simply due to how weight gets distributed. Like, something the size of a man would be acceptable, but nothing larger than that.

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ASTA said
1) Modern MBTs are around that height. In fact, the M1 Abrams is about 8 feet tall (, which is about a foot less than what Sachmis is currently stated to be at. Older vehicles, such as the M4 Sherman,(), pushed 9 feet. Additionally, the pilot of Sachmis is actually lying down in the machine, his posture mimicking that of a light cycle rider's:When it comes to weigh distribution, four legs technically beat out two, as the pressure can be expressed across four surfaces rather than a simple duo. This means less pressure focused in one area. If it's too much, I can widen Sachmis' paws, which would make sense given the terrain she and her controller will be navigating through, with the paw-widening further decreasing her weight's impact on the surface (by increasing the paw's surface area) that she is walking upon. In all technical sense, this isn't even needed. For a frame of reference, the M1 Abrams actually exerts pressure on the ground than a civilian car, like a Ford Focus or even an H1 Hummer. This is a 60-70 ton MBT mind you. Four-legged creations, by default, are going to be shorter than two-legged ones. It's why you don't see tigers that are six feet tall, yet they weigh hundreds of pounds. And for the record, having a 50 foot machine that only weighs 60 tons makes little sense. The internal structure of that mech alone is going to be rather hefty; add on the armor and the weapons, and the weight increases. You may want to checked out this wikipedia article on the square-cube law: , since it will explain in detail what I'm getting at. In terms of the defenses, I know the limits and capabilities of what I put into my sheet. I wouldn't do that if I didn't know what this stuff does.

The lightweight can be explained by the fact that it's set in the far future, tech's gonna be improved and lightweight enough to support such things while not losing out on integrity. The height is because you'll have arm-sized stubby legs either directly underneath or splayed out to the sides, making it improbable to support it's own weight anyway.

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Three things:
First, Increase the height, that's about a man's height plus a bit. Comparatively, if it weighted that much in such a small area it'd fall through the metal most of the time rather than being mobile.

Second, make a better physical description or find some sort of suitable picture.

Thirdly, even with all that stuff in, no defense is perfect against everything.

Other than that looking good.

Song of Betrayal | Fire Emblem

Logan's gleeful victory celebrations were cut short as the Wyvern Lord drove her mount onward, nearly bucking him off once more. With a squeak, he hung on to nearly everything that wasn't bucking wildly as if his life depended on it as the ashes that used to be his rare tome fell away in the rushing wind. The mage felt the ravenous growling even more than he heard it. The experience wasn't one he'd had before. Strange. There was a moments reprieve as he felt Caius pull up, then a dull thud rebounded across the body as something heavy and soft was just torn away from the loving grasp of Mother Earth. His lips split open again in a grimace of pleasure as he imagined the poor man's screams, which were hidden quite well under the rushing wind.

They had reach the peak of their ascent when Lumara ordered the man dropped, and Logan took the chance to stuff the ruined covers of the Dying Blaze tome back into his coat, making sure both of his other tomes were still in place, only half listening to the woman brag about how she didn't need magic when she could kill these bandits with her mount and axe. After peering over to observe the man splattering against the now blood-soaked sand, he caught a glimpse of the Wyvern Lord hurling her axe in an almost impossible arch, smashing in the head of a man who seemed to be more than a little inconvenienced by the wound, if the resulting blood splatter was anything to go by. Logan applauded politely at the show, reaching in for his next tome when Lumara urged Caius over to pick up her now bloodied axe. He was about to respond when a rather burly man rudely interrupted, grasping at the leg of his overly-friendly companion.

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ASTA said
If space and viewing range is that limited, how are some of the larger mechs in the RP even supposed to fire their weapons let alone acquire targets? They'd be just as limited as wheeled or tracked vehicle would be. I see them having to wade over hills and awkwardly maneuvering themselves into firing positions while under fire. It would be...messy, to say the least. Sounds like an environment where soldiers in powered armor, exoskeletons or battle armor (like the Elemental from the Battletech universe or the Terminator from the Warhammer 40k universe) would excel in---not vehicles of any kind, since so many hills, ditches and other hiding places would allow plenty of opportunity for a soldier using heavy weapons (like an anti-tank/anti-mech missile launcher, anti-material rifle or even a well-placed explosive charge) to effectively and efficiently down a larger target with little risk involved.

Well, that would be the point. Something with heavy armor and the power of an MBT with the maneuverability of a soldier.

While the point of powered armor and ambushing is valid, it's also a rather moot point considering the size difference, as there is a very dead man in powered armor if said attack fails.

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ASTA said
Judging from this, it sounds like the junkyard is comprised of literal mountains of trash. Uneven terrain doesn't deter armored vehicles as much as people think. If the junkyard is an expansive landscape of small mounds of junk, petite hills and potholes, tanks and light vehicles (like APCs, IFVs and mobile gun systems such as the M1128) aren't going to have much issue with such a landscape. If the tank's weight is an issue (which it shouldn't be, considering that machines weighing in excess of 50 tons are present in the world), then the tracks can be widened to decrease the vehicle's overall ground pressure at the expense of overall speed. Mountains are going to be a hindrance to anything that tries to maneuver through them, though walking machines will have the capacity to climb these hills far better than a wheeled or tracked vehicle can (but only to a certain extent, as their overall mass coupled with their poor center of gravity will inevitability cause them to tumble backwards should they scale the mountain too far---unless of course they have arms or something, or if they possess four or more legs and are lower to the ground). This is all technical stuff, and probably shouldn't be brought to the table since this RP appears to be more about fun rather than plausibility.As Spoo said, it's all about the aesthetics. If I bring physics and actual science into this, it's going to ruin the party for everyone---including myself lol.

You're right about the physics, yeah, at least with the vehicle size and the like(Tanks being more stable than mobile armor, mobile armor with multiple legs being more stable than mobile suits, etc). However, you asked about the terrain, and how the landscape looks like. The entire place looks like a combination of a warzone and a planetary bombardment. Much of the huge chunks of metal are rusted out hulls of tanks or mecha from eons past, with parts being scattered far and wide. Occasionally, there will be the destroyed remains of a landship or even some sort of massive-spacecraft, with metal chunks and 'bits'. There is so much metal wreckage that it is nearly impossible to see a five foot free space anywhere unless artificially cleared, in the cases of city-states and hubs, with special attention given to the oasis's which have some greenery in addition to the towering buildings. The main landscale is hilly with metal, but again, it's relatively unstable and mountains of the stuff are not uncommon.

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Tanks may be faster on flat terrain and usually better armored, but mecha are more mobile and quite usually better armed. Add that to the fact that the Junkyard is very often not flat terrain, which makes the mecha a much more versatile choice. Note, this does not mean that conventional weapons like tanks are unused, and that's why if you wish to use one, you should be very aware that you can be outmaneuvered by people using said mecha. If you still wish to do as such, I would suggest scaling it up in order to compensate for such things.

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@Astra: I wouldn't recommend it. If you really want to, however, some mobile armor looks like a tank with legs.

@Spoo: Stats are mostly eyeballing it anyways. You'll be fine.

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Awesome. Take your time.