Vilageidiotx

Adversity and Pride

For example, there is independence day within the US. This is a day of pride and celebration for those who identify themselves as American citizens, who form the vast majority of US residents. However, there are also those who live within the US who do not identify themselves as US citizens. Mexicans, Europeans, Canadians, whatever it may. Not to be flippant, but according to your definition, this would be a celebration where the majority is expressing pride in their identity and thus, establishing superiority over the minority. However, I personally see it as a celebration that does not detract from those who identify contrary to the majority. It is one where US citizens feel pride in their identity, but a pride that does not pose a threat to others.

With this in mind, isn't it possible that a member of the majority (heterosexuals) could express pride without it posing a threat to others?

@Rocketman

I think that the Fourth of July largely is, as it goes, a celebration of what makes us different and, by proxy, why we might prefer the United States over other countries. It doesn't mean we are threatening the others necessarily, but when you listen to the rhetoric that comes with celebrating being an American, it is always saying stuff America is like "A free country." and all that with the implication that this is a unique quality. And I do think it would be healthy if we toned down our rhetoric in general because I think nationalism leads to delusional thinking. Mind that I'm not saying the fourth should be banned, because when you strip away the rhetoric you still get a summer holiday where you blow shit up and eat barbecue with friends and family, and I'd have to be a sad fuck to poopoo those things. But if you look at patriotism and extend the same practices and assumptions to a pro-heterosexuality movement, you can see how it could get awkward.

Which I guess comes down to what you want to do. If you don't want to draw lines, say "We make babies and you don't" or whatever, then what exactly does a Hetero-pride movement achieve? If you want to meet other heteros... well, that is easy. Hopefully nobody is shaming you for your heterosexuality, in which case you wouldn't need the solidarity part of it. Is it just that you want a parade? Because there are less controversial ways to get a parade. Or do you feel left out because people from other groups are posting X-Pride and you're checking in the majority boxes all the way? Because if that is true it would be a really interesting sociological thing (I feel left out of being left out.) I dunno how you could fix that. Another hobby I guess?

Adversity and Pride

I think where people get mixed up is that, when it comes to groups talking about pride, what they are really talking about is acceptance. So the old black pride movement, or the modern gay pride movement, was/is all about reaching out to folks who might feel shitty or ashamed of their status and getting them to accept that they have as much value as the majority population. It's pride as in bringing yourself up to equal status with the majority.

But actual pride, as feeling that the difference between you and another group puts you in a superior position, is something else. The White pride movement, for instance, would have more in common with the Black supremacy movement then black pride. There is really no need for a heterosexual acceptance movement because... yeh, we're pretty accepted. So we don't need to foster an acceptance of equality with the majority because... well, we are the majority. So all that is left is line-drawing at best, or if we are to be real about it, bringing ourselves up to a feeling of superiority.

This is where I think modern identity politics veers way off. It's useful to find socially minimized groups and say "Yeh, be proud that you are equal to the rest of us." But when you step off that path you just divvy up society in ways that aren't necessary. And you can say that about even the minimized groups when pride starts to seem more like secession.

So yeh, I'm heterosexual and I'm perfectly happy with it. I'm not going to turn it into a big thing though, start getting ">" bumper stickers and get straight pride shirts, because that seems weirdly secessionist. I'll stick to smiling at tits.

Hunger Games: Fourth of July addition

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Somehow, based on the way I seem to recall you describing your dad - or at least some people in your family - I would have thought the basic premise of the song would have been too protesty on 'Merica for it to be a primer. Or maybe I'm confused.

@Dinh AaronMk

Well, people are fairly complicated, and even if I come from fairly conservative and Jesusy stock, they aren't Mormons. He also plays a recording of the Jimmie Hendrix rendition of The Star Spangled at family 4th of July gatherings even though it pisses off my grandma because she thinks that cover is disrespectful.

also, imma get to this later but gonna do stuff first.

Hunger Games: Fourth of July addition

You forgot the theme song! Though, we have to ask: what is the theme song?

I vote for Steppenwolf's Monster!

@Dinh AaronMk

That'll work. I remember when I was a kid my dad insisted that song was a necessary primer to American history.

I had the strange urge to post one of those quaint af Schoolhouse Rock videos on American history to accompany the first post. Like this one or something. Didn't end up posting anything like that, mostly because getting this shit organized was an SoB. Probably the last time I'll replace all the events.

Congress finally responded to my email!

You should send him your opinion on how to solve the financial crisis, there's always one of them going on.

@KnightShade

Dear Congressman

Give Vilageidiotx monies.

Sincerely,
MDK.

Hunger Games: Fourth of July addition

Welcome to the 4th of July Hunger Games! Lets get started.



Millard Fillmore and Andrew Jackson, our old-timey heroes from the old times, don't seem to know where they are. They grab what they need to fish and go whistling over to the creek while everyone else scatters. Black Lives Matter find a single cheeseburger to feed their entirety, a sign of the horrible poverty happening in our streets, or at the very least the lack of cheeseburgers in our hunger games. I...guess...they...don't...call...it...the..."Hunger"... ah damn, I can't say it, to easy.



Audie Murphy shows us what these games are supposed to be about. Hopefully he has more freedoms then he can ever spend. Arnold understands things we do not, and he clutches the best weapon he can find, giving Roosevelt his roughest ride yet (well not like that). The WBC grabs a flag, perhaps thinking they had finally caught that thing they seek that rhymes nearly with "Flag". American Jesus finds what he wants, and he fights for it. He doesn't turn the other cheek when it is bared cheeks that he seeks.



Hemingway shows a move he must have learned in the later days of the Spanish war. Pocahontas seeks the colors of the wind, but all she finds is pink slime (I basically just know colors of the wind jokes for Pocahontas so bare with me). Florida man does... exactly what you would expect. It makes no sense, it is brutal... yeh, that's Florida.

Michael Bay finds an explosive. He found the thing he is most adept with, and I expect he will use it well. Nic Cage also finds a thing but it isn't a treasure so I doubt he will make much use of it.



Obama finds some explosives, Lebron some liquor. But really, its the Humvee that takes the cake. I think Betty has the hots for Sherman. Maybe a relationship will develop? We'll see next time when I get these images cleaned up and the Hunger Games returns!

The Unpopular Opinions Thread.

(Oh Lord. Am I slapping this into the wrong thread? Unpopular opinions, right? Is this still considered a roleplay topic, or a debate of morals?)

@Pair of Hearts

It'd fit this thread well enough is you slap either Trump or Overwatch in there somewhere.

The Unpopular Opinions Thread.

I really think that this is how you win the zeitgeist, if that's your goal.

@Jotunn Draugr

That is a good goal, but it's not a realistic one for someone with my means, so I can only stick to small things. I can't really change the zeitgeist, I can just toss pebbles.

Now if I came into the limelight somehow then yeh, I'd abuse the bully pulpit, but i'm not in a place to do that right now.

Precipice of War - We Write Under The Sign Of The Goat

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And then I'll be the only one left to figure out how to novelize PoW.

@Dinh AaronMk

gonna kill us all and steal the money

Hunger Games: Fourth of July addition

Found out you can save tributes so I did that real quick. Will actual game, but in the mean time lets look at our tributes.