Vilageidiotx

No sleep for me I guess

break in and steal sleep from your own bed.

o shit

We deserve the nukes.

@Awson

November gonna look a little bit like this.

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In theory BLM is mostly about the entire getting shot phenomena.

Also, in my experience the people most racist about Asians is Asians. I think at least half of the Asian jokes i've ever heard have been told by Asians. And I am being conservative... if it turned out to be more like 80% I wouldn't be surprised. And that is not even bringing into account the inter-Asian racism thing. I remember a long time ago I worked with a girl from Hong Kong who was in the States as part of some sort of college work program, and she made it a hobby to dis the Chinese at every opportunity. It was bizarre for me as a Midwesterner who just sort of assumed Hong Kong was part of China, but she made sure to nip that assumption in the bud real quick.

o shit

you laf, but meme-based campaigning is the future of american politics.

I saw a "TFWNGF" vanity plate with a Gasden Flag theme.

four-chan drives a honda

(I actually have picture evidence of this but you'll have to see something nasty if you want me to upload it).

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@Vilageidiotx

I know what you mean, and I understand why the Left thinks the way it does. Generally speaking, I do consider myself to be left-wing.

However, I do think that the left is fulfilling their own prophecy. The hyper anti-racism mentality in Europe, that is informing supremely lax immigration policies, is only creating more and more racial tension and disenfranchised white people, which is just fueling the fire for actual Fascists, Nazis, and white supremacists. Out of fear of the Right, they've swung so far to the Left that they're actually making Neo-Nazis look like the more reasonable choice to a lot of people.

Likewise, I genuinely believe that Trump is a monster of the Left's creation. If they didn't push so hard, and so far, with immigration, with affirmative action, with economic globalization, with race hyper-awareness, with social justice education in school, with gender quotas, with language policing, they wouldn't have alienated so many people. They wouldn't have pushed so many people into Trump's camp, simply because he's SOMEHOW become the safer, more reasonable option. If Billy-Bob wasn't homeless, because Chinese immigration and overseas housing speculation made housing prices so high that he can't even afford to rent, he wouldn't be voting for Trump. If Jenny-Jane hadn't gone 10 years without a raise, because Mexican guest-workers are willing to work just as hard for minimum wage, she wouldn't be voting for Trump. If Jamisonson Pennyworth wasn't blocked from attending the university of his dreams, because they were required to accept more women and minorities instead, even though their grades were lower than his, he wouldn't be voting for Trump. If Marko Stromboulopoulos wasn't banned from Facebook and Twitter for protesting against Islam's treatment of women, he wouldn't be voting for Trump. If Brock Logan wasn't fired from his job, simply because word got around that he was upset his daughter was dating a black man, he wouldn't be voting for Trump.

And if all these people were allowed to say what their problems were, without being called "racists", they wouldn't be voting for Trump.

I think if people really wanted to stop the rise of Nazism, and Fascism, and wanted to prevent an actual race-war, they'd stop being such giant, totalitarian pussies. I know Marxists, Racists, Sexists, Nazis, Feminists, Christian fundamentalists, Sikh fundamentalists, Jews, Buddhists, black and white South Africans, and even a Satanist, and they're all completely reasonable people... so long as nobody is stepping on their toes and getting in the way of their day-to-day life. It's when you threaten them, and vilify them, and set up systems to silence and restrain them, that they start organizing and actually hurting people.

Edit: And violence is already illegal. The policy of making the punishment significantly worse, simply because the race of the two parties is different ("hate-crimes"), only serves to make people more and more hyper-aware of racial differences. If you want people to stop paying attention to race, stop talking about race all the damn time!

@Jotunn Draugr

I generally agree with you sorta kinda, though I think the real problem isn't so much that the social stuff has veered too far into unnecessary shit, but that the real problems everyday people face are not getting taken care of. And you pretty much alluded to the same thing yourself with your individual examples. The left, having became so afraid or unwilling to go back to a serious criticism of capitalism (especially in the United States), has got into this habit of ignoring the realities of working class life. This is the main reason I don't consider myself a Democrat. They aren't offering real answers, or even properly addressing the looming economic problem that we are running headlong into. So no matter how blatantly dangerous Trump may be, its hard to get on board with the other side because there is no evidence that Clinton would do anything for anybody outside of her social circle.

It is dangerous to tell people there is no problem when they clearly see and feel a problem. The left is failing, or at least only making anemic attempts, to handle this element. So whereas I think some of your people in your examples are wrongly diagnosing the problem (No Jenny-Jane, the cause of your lack of a raise isn't immigration, it's wage stagnation), their misdiagnoses are understandable. The Dems are telling you everything is fine. Trump is telling you the problem is easy to fix, and that all you have to do is build a wall and drag some abuelas out of their apartments to toss across it. His answer might be useless, but at least he is giving you a fucking answer.

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There is a reason to worry about the racist/sexist/homophobic man staring at you on the bus though. If it were true that all angry staring can ever amount to is angry staring, or that all racism could ever amount to is awkward jokes, then I'd probably take it all less seriously. But there is in a hateful stare the thin possibility of real violence. And if somebody is constantly dealing with thin threats of violence like that all the time... yeh, they are going to say something.

I think this might be a key to understanding some of the shit the left says. Nobody knows if, or when for that matter, the passive aggressive everyday sort of bigotry might explode into a full blow extermination campaign (barring sexism obviously lol). It's ridiculously unlikely of course, but if you are a Mexican or a Muslim watching something like a Trump Rally and you see all these people spewing hate of you and your kind, how can you not be worried that this might escalate? And if it does escalate, well, you're the target.

I think its kind of like reading something like the SCUM manifesto if you are a regular guy. Sure, there is no chance that will happen, but the idea of it is uncomfortable even if it mostly seems like reading a train wreck. Well, with minorities the possibility of a pogrom of some sort isn't impossible. It has happened. Plenty of times.

So I guess to paraphrase, the reason I think the left gets so worried about these things is because, for them, in the back of their minds, they are worried society is one step away from the right wing going rabid and committing a mass murder. Or for women, whether or not what they have won might be reversed in another conservative revolution of some sort.

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Also, if you think racism and sexism are actually still problems in western society, go to any other fucking place on Earth, and talk to the people there. If you want to see real racism, go to a small city in China, into the poor parts of South Africa, or to Romania. If you want to see what real sexism and homophobia looks like, go to Saudi Arabia, or Egypt, or Afghanistan, or Iran, or fucking India. Talk to a man from Nanjing about the Japanese, a Romanian about the Turks, or a South African about white people, if you want to hear what real hatred sounds like.

When Americans freak out, because someone dares state a preference against black people, for whatever reason, Chinese people just laugh. This kind of political correctness is why many of them think of white people as simple-minded, spineless pussies.

@Jotunn Draugr

I don't think the law should be "There isn't a problem if somewhere somebody else is doing worse." I mean, you don't stop a murder trial because the murder rate in Somalia is higher than it is in your western country.

The thing with SJW's is all a matter of optics. There are a lot of people in that field that are rather level headed and focus on things with some level of philosophical consistency, then there is a lot of teenagers and college freshmen who just want to yell at people. The MRA movement might be the same way, though I admit I've only ran across MRA's in the context of complaining above feminism. But if you show me an MRA who is actually focused on, like, child support reform or something like that, then I think most of us would agree that guy is cool.

So really the thing is you gotta keep in mind not to judge a movement by its most extreme example. Can't judge SJW's by the echo chamber part of tumblr. Just like you can't judge Christianity by WBC, can't judge the right by Neo-Nazi's, the left by Stalinists, or the Trump campaign by Donald Trump.

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where are you guys buying all these starter kits?

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Why are you so quick to defend this movement?

@Dynamo Frokane

i don't think cheetos are sturdy enough to hang oneself from.