Real Life is RTS

Roleplaying is building a story with others that is interesting. Playing a Nation RP however as if its a RTS ruins the experience for everyone, and just makes the RP dull and boring. If you want to play a Nation RP that acts like a RTS go find one, this isn't one.

Alpha pulling out, but were keeping the German occupation of Poland as cannon, so your app is still good.

duck55223 said
Real Life is RTSRoleplaying is building a story with others that is interesting. Playing a Nation RP however as if its a RTS ruins the experience for everyone, and just makes the RP dull and boring. If you want to play a Nation RP that acts like a RTS go find one, this isn't one.

And if you keep writing in this with the clear intention of winning, then you're loosing. What you want to do in RP'ing like this is to run complimentary to what's going on. Either recognize your faults and utilize them to carry the narrative, or work with other people. If you keep claiming you're the best, pull shit out of your ass to cover for weakness, or be a bitch then you're not cut out for this and you're better off finding a NRP that uses stats and dice-rolls, for all their complexity and convoluted face. If you write here, Rogue, you write to benefit us all.

This means you drop the RL is RTS philosophy and cooperate. Characters in the RP may have this idea, but when it gets challenged and they are loosing you must write them loosing. More so when it works in the greater narrative.

So that requires that you drop the idea you need to pick up the areas or twist things to work for you in this rather laissze-faire system, because you're not going to make it work.

I will write them losing. And I will cooperate. But my faction, group, organization, whatever, are based on doing what they can do to fulfill their job, and profit from it. As long as they profit, they don't care much what they do, as long as it stays within their area of expertise. They have no real military, since they don't have the population, And they don't have the population, nor do they have the funds to completely utilize their technology.

They work with others, both from giving and holding strong at times, to keep going. I am not going to run them to the ground, nor am I going to try and run them to world domination. That isn't in their job description.

You also seem to be taking things way more defensive than is needed. So why are you even here then?

I'd like to reserve India, if I may. I usually try to shy away from larger powers, but I think India would be an enjoyable exception to my norm.

The near-complete lack of backstory pertaining to WWIII is throwing me off a bit though. Assuming I take up India, I would like to have been a relatively major participant in the war, but that's kind of difficult to pull off when I have no clue what the war was about. Who were the belligerents, what instigated the war, what sort of peace-treaty was signed? I can make due with some rather basic answers, I just need a rough idea of some sort.

Fisheye said
I'd like to reserve India, if I may. I usually try to shy away from larger powers, but I think India would be an enjoyable exception to my norm.The near-complete lack of backstory pertaining to WWIII is throwing me off a bit though. Assuming I take up India, I would like to have been a relatively major participant in the war, but that's kind of difficult to pull off when I have no clue what the war was about. Who were the belligerents, what instigated the war, what sort of peace-treaty was signed? I can make due with some rather basic answers, I just need a rough idea of some sort.

I actually glassed part of India for you, and Pakistan. So don't think you get to get off scot free here and India doesn't have a lot of crippling drama. Because it is now.

You're welcome.

And the war so far as it's been explored is less a singular war, and a lot of major ones that happened at the same time. In a sentence I created a whole major war on the Indian Subcontinent, and have raised the concept of a large-scale war in Africa between France (and when Chapa gets around with the UK) against Chinese-back insurgency warring up a storm in the heart of Africa. Then in Europe you got Russian aggression and a war against German aggression.

Vilage's wasteland in central/South America has like-wise created a wide-spread stretch of carnage and destruction across most of Colombia and up through to Nicaragua. And there was wide-spread war in - and still is - in the Middle East.

There's also a high chance for expanded theaters in Asia as well.

It's not defensive. It's explanatory, so that you can't look for another thing of the same topic in the future, and claim that I never actually explained myself.

Why so accusatory?

And Chapa wasn't referring to you when you said:

WilsonTurner said
I am a Texan.That makes the following invalid:Gun restriction laws, including magazine, the type of gun, and where you can shoot itFederal control. If the Feds show up, every other person has a rifle. Go away, Feds, we own ourselvesThe Union is applicable in most other states. Do not go into a rural bar in Texas, and starting chanting crap pro-Union. You will find yourself fighting the second Civil War.That is all I must know about the world.

If this isn't being way defensive, then I don't know what is.

Also Im Texan and not like that. Most Texans like being in the Union too, so your thing about being Pro-Union is pretty incorrect.

Although I can say the shit about guns is pretty accurate.

I see too many pickups and other cars with, at some place, a confederate flag.

And I am well aware that Chapa wasn't referring to me.

And if you don't want people to think they have to defend themselves, leave them alone, for once.

Dinh AaronMk said
I actually glassed part of India for you, and Pakistan. So don't think you get to get off scot free here and India doesn't have a lot of crippling drama. Because it is now.You're welcome.And the war so far as it's been explored is less a singular war, and a lot of major ones that happened at the same time. In a sentence I created a whole major war on the Indian Subcontinent, and have raised the concept of a large-scale war in Africa between France (and when Chapa gets around with the UK) against Chinese-back insurgency warring up a storm in the heart of Africa. Then in Europe you got Russian aggression and a war against German aggression.Vilage's wasteland in central/South America has like-wise created a wide-spread stretch of carnage and destruction across most of Colombia and up through to Nicaragua. And there was wide-spread war in - and still is - in the Middle East.There's also a high chance for expanded theaters in Asia as well.

The more drama the better, in most RP cases. Anyway, I had planned on getting into a bit of conflict during the war (or series of wars, I suppose) so the devastation in India and the need to rebuild and recuperate is both expected and accepted. I must ask what exactly you mean by glassed, though. Was the environment in northern India just war-torn in the fifteen years of bombing and chaos or was there limited nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India? The use of nuclear warheads would be interesting, though I don't think it's too probable that it wouldn't cause a larger nuclear exchange.

I had also been thinking that India and China could have a conflict, though it wouldn't necessarily have to be a war. I haven't really worked out the details (at all, in fact- it's just a rough idea), but it'd probably be over a border dispute and the Indians trying to reinstall the Dalai Lama at the head of an independent Tibet.

Fisheye said
The more drama the better, in most RP cases. Anyway, I had planned on getting into a bit of conflict during the war (or series of wars, I suppose) so the devastation in India and the need to rebuild and recuperate is both expected and accepted. I must ask what exactly you mean by glassed, though. Was the environment in northern India just war-torn in the fifteen years of bombing and chaos or was there limited nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India? The use of nuclear warheads would be interesting, though I don't think it's too probable that it wouldn't cause a larger nuclear exchange.I had also been thinking that India and China could have a conflict, though it wouldn't necessarily have to be a war. I haven't really worked out the details (at all, in fact- it's just a rough idea), but it'd probably be over a border dispute and the Indians trying to reinstall the Dalai Lama at the head of an independent Tibet.

The Indians aren't necessarily Buddhists, so they wouldn't care. The only "powerful" people I can imagine who would care are the Eastern Spirituality minded western folk. And their governments would really have more going on than trying to position themselves on one side of what would then be a theological succession crisis. Tenzin has said that when he is reincarnated it will be anywhere but China, and the Chinese government has gone through the legal motions that effectively allows them to approve a Dalai Lama; this has interesting implications for Tibetan Buddhism, but probably isn't on the list of things to accomplish by any current world powers.

And the scale of the conflict would probably be continent wide. This is projecting forward current Maoist dissidence in the Eastern part of the country and a pattern of ignoring various ethnic or social groups the current, powerful Indian Nationalist Party doesn't care about, and bad Pakistani-Indian relations that could ignite into a nuclear exchange for Kashmir.

The point of destroying India's economic abilities in a devastating war as a theater of the greater War was for me to talk about how parts of Africa are trying to use the economic window to finally expand their economy as ASN - my faction - patrols central Africa trying to keep the peace as per a contract privatizing large parts of their security. The damage to the world food supply by removing India would imply to them a chance to maybe expand themselves in their already low-standing on the tiers of economy. They're trying to produce the rice and wheat India did.

I could also see Beijing challenging Delhi's power in the chaotic state of the world and moving in to keep a powerful neighbor in check so they can claim absolute hegemony over Asia. And I think both nations have territorial disputes either one could press when there's no one policing the world anymore.

Dinh AaronMk said
The Indians aren't necessarily Buddhists, so they wouldn't care. The only "powerful" people I can imagine who would care are the Eastern Spirituality minded western folk. And their governments would really have more going on than trying to position themselves on one side of what would then be a theological succession crisis. Tenzin has said that when he is reincarnated it will be anywhere but China, and the Chinese government has gone through the legal motions that effectively allows them to approve a Dalai Lama; this has interesting implications for Tibetan Buddhism, but probably isn't on the list of things to accomplish by any current world powers.And the scale of the conflict would probably be continent wide. This is projecting forward current Maoist dissidence in the Eastern part of the country and a pattern of ignoring various ethnic or social groups the current, powerful Indian Nationalist Party doesn't care about, and bad Pakistani-Indian relations that could ignite into a nuclear exchange for Kashmir.The point of destroying India's economic abilities in a devastating war as a theater of the greater War was for me to talk about how parts of Africa are trying to use the economic window to finally expand their economy as ASN - my faction - patrols central Africa trying to keep the peace as per a contract privatizing large parts of their security. The damage to the world food supply by removing India would imply to them a chance to maybe expand themselves in their already low-standing on the tiers of economy. They're trying to produce the rice and wheat India did.I could also see Beijing challenging Delhi's power in the chaotic state of the world and moving in to keep a powerful neighbor in check so they can claim absolute hegemony over Asia. And I think both nations have territorial disputes either one could press when there's no one policing the world anymore.

The idea behind India's attempted restoration of an independent Tibet isn't necessarily a religious one. They'd be looking for a justification to cripple their main adversary (the other continental superpower, China), take disputed territory in the process, and pass it off as a justified war to liberate a peaceful theocratic nation from the big-bad-commies while simultaneously placing that nation within their sphere of influence. It's a power-grab neatly disguised as a just and necessary war, really.

Anyway, I think I'll go forward with the limited nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India, and will probably try to tie both wars together to make it a it more pitched and hectic. The spot will certainly be a hotspot for conflict, both before and after the start of the RP, I'm sure. Anyway, Africa will certainly be getting the economic window you spoke of I suppose, now that India's going to be hit hard.

Well, I'll start researching a bit more and try to weave together an equally hectic and believable situation for the war. I had originally been planning to RP a moderately powerful, somewhat stable, and very hegemonic India when I claimed it, but it seems that you've easily steered me towards wanting to craft a more dire and dystopian setting for my nation.

Wait, if Alpha is pulling out, does that mean Germany is now an NPC nation?

Is there any way we could retcon the German occupation of Poland? I mean, considering the factors of external pressure on Germany, Poland's consistently rising economic strength and stability, and the in-progress modernization and expansion of Poland's military, I just never really saw Alpha's reich succeeding in the first place.

The while world is in the dire and dystopian state right now. We have neo-imperialism from Russia and Germany, Scandinavia attacking the UK (lol) India getting its legs shot out from beneath it as it finally climbed up to being a world power, probable coups and civil wars all over the place etc

Jeddaven said
Is there any way we could retcon the German occupation of Poland? I mean, considering the factors of external pressure on Germany, Poland's consistently rising economic strength and stability, and the in-progress modernization and expansion of Poland's military, I just never really saw Alpha's reich succeeding in the first place.

I guess we should, although we are limiting big federations at this point so we actually have countries for people to play as so just stick with Poland.

Jeddaven said
Is there any way we could retcon the German occupation of Poland? I mean, considering the factors of external pressure on Germany, Poland's consistently rising economic strength and stability, and the in-progress modernization and expansion of Poland's military, I just never really saw Alpha's reich succeeding in the first place.

We can't accurately project economic patterns into the future very well here, given the advent of technologies like 3d printing that have the power to cause great shifts in the economic stability of any nation. You got a rising unemployed sector as high-skilled, college-supported jobs turn more and more competitive as the factors turn over to increasingly automated manufacturing processes. And all the sudden, we're probably looking at a situation where a single factory opening in a small town won't nearly have the same economic impact as it once did, they'd be a smaller employer.

And for the sake of having a Third World War we'd probably have to keep it. With the European Union gone - or potentially long gone by war's beginning - there'd need to be a reason to explore the break down of the Eurozone economy.

I also don't think Boerd's been accepted. I know I have disagreements with his nation and raised the ones over the Shetland and Orkney islands. But Duck's never said anything official.

Dinh AaronMk said
We can't accurately project economic patterns into the future very well here, given the advent of technologies like 3d printing that have the power to cause great shifts in the economic stability of any nation. You got a rising unemployed sector as high-skilled, college-supported jobs turn more and more competitive as the factors turn over to increasingly automated manufacturing processes. And all the sudden, we're probably looking at a situation where a single factory opening in a small town won't nearly have the same economic impact as it once did, they'd be a smaller employer.And for the sake of having a Third World War we'd probably have to keep it. With the European Union gone - or potentially long gone by war's beginning - there'd need to be a reason to explore the break down of the Eurozone economy.I also don't think Boerd's been accepted. I know I have disagreements with his nation and raised the ones over the Shetland and Orkney islands. But Duck's never said anything official.

What Eurozone economy? All I see is a piece of crap someones painted in gold and said 'Good Enough' xD
In all seriousness though, while I don't think 3D printing it going to have anywhere near the effect people seem to be worrying about (It'll be a shift, yes, but it's not going to flip the entire worlds economy like people are saying. The rich countries will still be rich and the poor countries will still be poor), it's pretty hard to predict how an economy will change though, and anything after 5 years is almost certain to be wrong.