I should probably say I wrote that post after watching his videos and feeling angry and sick to the stomach so yeah, a lot of assumptions as I wasn't exactly clear-minded when I wrote that post.
Jorick said
You're pointing to his family's wealth and saying that he shouldn't have had any problems because he had money? Mental health issues don't happen to respect class boundaries. This shit should be obvious by now.
Thinking about it you're right as I wrote that without considering his mental state, Mental Health is probably the biggest factor here. I do still think Money and therefore his environment plays a part and probably contributed although in my original post I would say I got it the wrong way around, thinking about it now IMO the fact he could have gotten anything he wanted throughout his life probably meant his problems with women were some of the first occurrences in which he couldn't get what he wanted. This may have led to him getting frustrated over this and as his efforts continually were wasted he began to blame women for not ''seeing his brilliance''.
However any normal person would never have gone nearly as far as he did or felt that murder was even a viable option. It 's clear in his videos this isn't merely some teen angst, so yeah in the bigger picture money isn't important in so much as his mental state.
Jorick said
This is just plain dumb. It wasn't his obsession with women that drove him to murder, it was his mental health problems that happened to also involve an obsession with women that drove him to do it. People don't go on fucking killing sprees just because they're sexually frustrated. This dude was very clearly not right in the head, and this would have been the case regardless of changes in his level of sexual activity. His particular madness happened to hinge upon that aspect of his life, but attributing everything to a symptom rather than the cause is ridiculous. The public dialogue about this guy should be about mental health issues and how poorly they're handled, not about how blue balls supposedly lead to murder.
I agree with you here. It's sort of similarly to how people blame Video Games for School shootings rather than a killer's mental state and enviroment, that was a mistake in my original post I admit.
With a mental state like his, this or something similar was likely to happen happen for one reason or another if his mental state wasn't detected. IMO I think part of the reason why this turned out to be the reason and not something else was due to the fact it's very hard to ignore sexuality. Other aspects of life are easier to shirk off, especially considering the fact he seemed like a megalomaniac, but sexuality and companionship are pretty core to the human psyche. Taking into account his age and mental state as well as the fact he was in his physical prime then this was a very likely trigger.
Jorick said
Again, focusing on the symptom rather than the cause. This time you're associating him with a type of person and thus implying that they might also be dangerous people ready to snap and go on a killing spree at any moment because they're also sexually frustrated.And here again, although you hedge around it at bit, you heavily imply that anyone who fits into that same broad category could be murderers just waiting for an opportunity to let loose. This kind of stupid generalization is rather harmful and distracts attention from what is actually important and should be talked about, specifically mental health issues and how they relate to this guy who was so far off the deep end that he went and killed people with a patently insane justification.
Basically the same thing I said as above and it was a bit bad on my part to assume everyone in that category is a murderer in waiting. What I meant by that is if someone could go unnoticed like that, then it is possible that others in a similar category to his videos could also be at risk of snapping. Not necessarily that everyone in that category could snap in so much as their could be others. An indicator I guess.
It is a mistake however to assume everyone in that category are in it for the same reason, some may be just going through a phase of teenage angst and will grow or reason there way out. Others may have mental issues but it differs from this killer so they would never go out and murder. Ultimately only a tine percentage of those in this category could axctually be said to be similar to this murderer, so as you said it is stupid to assume the entire group are massacres waiting to happen.
Jorick said
I'm not trying to be a dick to you K-97, you just happen to have presented the kind of stuff I hate about news coverage of mass murderers and such. It pisses me off how whenever something like this happens the things everyone focuses on are shit like what kind of music they listened to, whether or not they played video games, what popular websites they used, etc. That crap is not important at all. What's important is that yet another person slipped through the massive cracks in the system and never got help for whatever their mental health problems were, and it escalated to the point of harming others. People in general are just so damned stupid, and this is a very blatantly obvious expression of that stupidity, so I can't help but rail against it.I'll end it there and keep the rant short, I guess.
Don't worry I understand what you meant by this post.
No, I see why you think that, but I think everyone should know what is going on in the world, or at least their country, because it helps you to be a better more aware citizen. Though, all the drama the news man puts around it can be annoying.
