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Made some edits to my app. They are as follows:
1. The Ukraine has been removed from my nation entirely
2. Member nations are partly governed independently, though economic, military, and foreign policy decisions are made by a centralized governing body composed of a senate-like council and a figurehead president.
3. The nation is, otherwise, more of a coalition.
4. None of the member-nations were annexed. They joined the nation due to fear of invasion by foreign powers (ie Russia or Germany) and the breakdown of international trade
5. Fast-working translation software (think advanced voice translators built into Google Glass-eqsue devices) have become exceedingly common to cope with the issue of multiple Slavic languages

Name of Nation: Eastern European Democratic Coalition (EEDC)

Territories: Poland, Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary, Romania

Government Type: Deliberative Democracy (Largely democratic. Representatives are elected by the general populace. These representatives then debate and analyze laws and major decisions before they are chosen based upon overall merits and values.)

Military: The EEDC, out of necessity, has been forced to build an incredibly strong military to defend itself from multiple hostile nations, and was only able to do so due to the economic growth the Slavic nations experienced in the early-mid 21st century. Although the EEDC’s military is slightly smaller than other world powers, it makes up this difference with rigorous training and advanced technology, including frequent use of railguns and DEWs (Directed Energy Weapons). Hypersonic and suborbital aircraft are also prominent, in addition to lightweight armors such as buckypaper. Some unique weapons include:
Pulsed Energy Projectiles (PEPs): involves the emission of an invisible laser which produces exploding plasma. Has seen use as both a lethal and non-lethal weapon. Riot police use the weapon’s pressure wave to stun targets, whereas larger, higher-energy emitters are utilized for the extremely hot plasma they produce and the large pressure wave they can emit, which makes the weapon both useful for melting through vehicle armor, attacking fortifications, and killing clustered groups of infantry. Thanks to its versatility, some military models are equipped to operate at multiple power levels in the event that a switch between lethal and non-lethal force is needed.
Electrolaser: Uses laser to form a Laser-Induced Plasma Channel (LIPC) through which a powerful electrical shock is emitted through and strikes the target. Comparable to a massive taser. The electrolaser, similar to the PEP, can be used for both non-lethal and lethal purposes, but is considerably more complicated to maintain and sees much less frequent use. It is, essentially, a lightning emitter, and can be used to stun or kill human targets, seriously disable or damage electronic equipment, or to study lightning. It is not effective for wireless energy transfer due to low efficiency and danger of use and is only seen in static positions or mounted on large vehicles.
Electrothermal-chemical technology: Although not a replacement to guns, electrothermal-chemical technology allows for improved control over the effects of propellants used in guns and overall allows longer usage-time of guns before repairs are needed. Because electrothermal-chemical technology allows for use of higher-density propellants and smoother expansion, overall muzzle-energy can be increased without fear of damaging the weapon.
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Economy: Moderately regulated capitalism economy. Although the economy is not state-controlled, environmental and safety regulations are well-enforced throughout the country. Despite this, the economy within the country itself is primarily free-market in design; the little regulation the government is involved in within the country is primarily for the sake of preventing total monopoly, safety, stopping theft, preventing transactions involving illegal goods, and pollution regulation.
Major exports- Machinery and vehicles, electronic device and machine parts, copper, silver, uranium, mineral products, chemicals, textiles, foodstuffs, various metals, fuels, and energy.
Major imports vary heavily, though they primarily fall into the realm of rare earths, luxury goods, clothing, mineral products, various chemical products, and materials used in vehicle armor and spacecraft.

Foreign Policy: The EEDC has been shown to typically have hostile reactions to oppressive or totalitarian governments to the extreme, although they also maintain a policy of not intervening where assistance is not requested. The EEDC as a whole has made this policy known, openly touting the importance of freedom in the international stage, particularly due to the region’s multiple experiences with hostile occupation in the past.

History: Throughout the 21st century, continued Polish economic growth allowed the nation to become one of the most economically strong and stable nations as the decades went by. Continued Russian aggression in Eastern Europe fostered continued focus on Polish military technology, along with promotion of Polish patriotism that allowed for massive growth in military size as the nation’s population began to fear potential invasion by the Russian federation. Taking note of Poland’s economic and military growth, other Eastern European nations grew especially close to the country, seeing as it was the only nation in Eastern Europe with a particularly strong military and economy. Hungary, already having an extremely close relationship with Poland, formed an official military and economic alliance with Poland in hopes of discouraging invasion by an opportunistic Russia which now had a foothold in the Ukraine.

The Polish government accepted the offer, formalizing their relationship with Hungary with the formation of the Eastern European Coalition of Democratic States, (EECDS), which would eventually transform into the EEDR. Military buildup continued as the two countries shared military and economic resources and technologies, eventually drawing the attention of the pro-Independence Ukrainian government that was intensely struggling to avoid being absorbed into Russia against its will. Although the EECDS did not promptly form a military alliance with this Ukrainian government, it did secretly supply the Ukraine with military equipment and openly provided economic assistance to the recovering nation in order to avoid provoking Russia and still prepare the Ukraine to defend itself. The European Union quickly began to break apart as the 21st century continued on, forcing nations like the Czech Republic, Slovakia, and Romania to look to the EECDS for assistance as they too began to flounder.
Eventually, the three nations were accepted into the EECDS, military buildup only growing in prominence as the 21st century marched on. Especially with the growing political unrest in Europe and Germany in particular, the EECDS feared an invasion by the neighboring nations that were once its friends and was preparing for such with massive amounts of funding poured into military research and production. When the German invasion came, the EECDS was more than prepared.
The antiquated, tried-and-tested tactics of Germany proved to be their downfall against a nation that had so eagerly accepted and desperately engaged in military modernization. In many cases, German Blitzkrieg was unable to break the defenses of the military forts scattered across the EECDS before reinforcements arrived, and found its antiquated methods hard-pressed to defeat EECDS use of guided missiles, hypersonic aircraft, and DEWs. Polish Kommandosow earned special praise in WWIII for repeated assaults on Germany bases and supply depots using HAHO jumps, causing extensive damage to German supply lines along with GROM raids against German field command. Romanian and Hungary Special Forces frequently engaged in ambushes on Germany armored columns, while JW Formoza earned praise for sabotage against German ports and shipping convoys. The EECDS saw the most casualties against the IDF for their utilization of more modern tactics, though conflict with the IDF did not continue once Germany lost the ability to continue hiring the IDF and after the war ended.

By the end of WWIII, the EECDS had caused extensive damage to the German military and the German industrial machine, but showed little interest in occupying Germany. Quite simply, the EECDS mostly left Germany as-is, avoiding anything resembling the post-WWI restrictions placed on Germany in an effort to improve their international image and to avoid fostering hostility in Germany towards their coalition. Although the EECDS did assist German civilians, little assistance was provided to the German government or military, and the EECDS did make sure to doggedly hunt down and destroy whatever military technology the Germans had captured from them.
With the end of WWIII, the nations of the EECDS saw it imperative that they further the safety provided by their formal alliances in an effort to protect themselves from future conflict. Although the nations apart of the EEDC are still largely independently governed, free trade and relatively open borders between the countries leave them in an effective state of limbo between a tight-knit coalition and a formal nation. Cultural festivals celebrating the myriad of peoples within the EEDC are common, but, at the same time, gun laws and other highly variable laws vary between regions, and allow the EEDC to maintain relative unity without needing to suppress its various cultures. Member nations, though, are bound to provide economic and military assistance to other member nations when needed, in return for the same.

Foes: Russia, tenuous relations with the NAF
Demographics:
34% Polish, 18% Roman ian, 12% Hungarian, 11% Czech, 11% Slovak, 4% Belarusian, 8% Other
30% Catholic, 26% Protestant, 6% Orthodox, 31% Atheist/Agnostic, 7% other
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I'm pretty sure "fear" of military invasion and economic depression would be a means for a regional military alliance between states and a likely independent economic cooperation zone between them, but no means to inspire everyone's foreign policy to be orchestrated by a single body. That would be like having to talk to Brussels to enter talks with Germany, but only deal with the Belgians. And that sort of control would probably sooner or later cause anger from within the member nations when the "senate body" makes unpopular foreign policy decisions on the guise that it's good for everyone. It's pretty much what's screwing up the European Union already, a international body seen by euro-skeptics as being irrelevant and detrimental to unique national issues is a terrible thing.

And the Hungarians and Romanians aren't Slavs.

The Hungarians are more culturally related to irrelevant Finns as being members of the Ugric family tree.

The Romanians are their own very unique thing: Vlachs, Latinized Eastern Europeans living in parts of Northern Greece, Romania, and Moldovia. They speak a Latinized language, a Romance language like the French, Spanish, and Italians.

And issue with communication wouldn't be simply state-level, diplomats and statesmen would presumably already know a general language for diplomatic purposes (as Latin was classically used, then French, then English). The issue with the language barrier is between common people and to be able to read and speak it and use it intelligently.

Even between users of the same language bi-party trust may not always be there to properly run this sort of thing without it eventually being killed democratically or in violen revolution. As an example: though the US views Canada and Canadians highly, the Canadians don't view us in the same light. I believe the current positive opinion of the US in Canada is 40-50%.

And 10/10 replacing Romanians with gypsies. I'm sure there's a big diaspora loving Poland for promoting the inevitable gypsy-ran holocaust of a proud European native. It's like everything Eastern Europe feared. It's what the Nazis warned them about: those damn Jews and Gypsies would kill them all, pollute their proud, pure heritage!
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I approve
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31% Atheist.

That means
A majority of people don't believe in religion! yusss
technically
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>50% is a majority. 31% is not greater than 50%.

And way to be a dick and fuck over the people who actually do have a religion. They do what they want, so don't be championing "Aw yes religion sucks" like a total asshole.
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WilsonTurner said
I approvebecause31% Atheist.That meansA majority of people don't believe in religion! yussstechnically


'Slight' majority. Still, its enough to upset the Order in my nation as it gives them ammo to use against the EECDS

Also, congrats on getting your app approved Jeddaven.
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So what's the situation like with China and India? I know a nuclear war happened in that region presumably killing a billion people [a statistic] at least in the exchange and ensuing humanitarian crises. But what of china, the new overlord of the world?

Did china ever try invading Afghanistan, for instance?
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So what's the situation like with China and India? I know a nuclear war happened in that region presumably killing a billion people [a statistic] at least in the exchange and ensuing humanitarian crises. But what of china, the new overlord of the world?Did china ever try invading Afghanistan, for instance?

No nuclear exchange ever occurred between India and China. Both have No First Use policies and stayed true to their pledge through talks and the threat of mutually assured destruction. Only Pakistan and India engaged in nuclear warfare, and neither mobilized their entire arsenal (don't get me wrong, it still wasn't pretty). The war between China, the Indo-Russian alliance, and all assorted minor partners on both sides started in 2026 and ended in 2039.

As long as EvanCat doesn't care, you can do whatever you want Sino-Afghan history post-divergence, as I don't think anyone has mentioned anything about it. I myself don't plan on extending much influence west of Pakistan, nor do I think any lore in that region is under my 'jurisdiction', so EvanCat's probably your person for all that stuff.
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I think Iran is starting to get into Afghanistan, for a number of reasons. Tensions are strained though, so I'm not sure if that would escalate into a war or not.

I haven't read enough to extrapolate any trends.
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Whatever you do do, don't destroy the Chinese status of power because I need it. I need them to be a classical Great Power.
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Update: Finished history and working on other sections.
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If Turkey and Cyprus isn't taken, I'm considering (no reserves yet) taking both these countries. Maybe Azerbaijan, too.

Mostly because I would like to be the asshole that pisses off Greece, Serbia, and Armenia.

Seriously, nobody cares about the Middle East. Now I feel lime taking Mecca so I can be one of the most politically powerful person in the world.
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If Turkey and Cyprus isn't taken, I'm considering (no reserves yet) taking both these countries. Maybe Azerbaijan, too. Mostly because I would like to be the asshole that pisses off Greece, Serbia, and Armenia.Seriously, nobody cares about the Middle East. Now I feel lime taking Mecca so I can be one of the most politically powerful person in the world.


Nobody cares for the Middle East except for me, Iran. The regional power with active military operations in Iraq, Turkmenistan, Afghanistan, and Pakistan.

Also I think Turkey and stuff is taken by some new Byzantine Empire or something like that.

And as for your third point about pissing off Armenia, Greece, and Serbia:

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If Turkey and Cyprus isn't taken, I'm considering (no reserves yet) taking both these countries. Maybe Azerbaijan, too. Mostly because I would like to be the asshole that pisses off Greece, Serbia, and Armenia.Seriously, nobody cares about the Middle East. Now I feel lime taking Mecca so I can be one of the most politically powerful person in the world.


Mainland Turkey isn't taken, Just Western Istanbul.
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Mainland Turkey isn't taken, Just Western Istanbul.


Well. we can build a wall between Greek Thrace and Turkish Anatolia – the Asian part of Turkey – with the exception of the Golden Horn (where a good deal of their historical mosques and buildings are). Cyprus will be part of Turkey, as well as Azerbaijan.

I have some territorial edits when I make the application, however. Azerbaijan (part of the Republic of Turkey) loses Kalbajar-Lachin (currently, the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic) as it successfully separates from Azerbaijan and becomes part of Armenia or whoever is controlling Armenia.

If I don't change anything in my application and if anyone doesn't mind, Cyprus became part of Turkey after Turkey stages a military coup in Greek Cyprus in 2028, and completed its invasion of the island.

Also, I realized that you CAN simply walk into Azerbaijan and vice versa.
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Well. we can build a wall between Greek Thrace and Turkish Anatolia – the Asian part of Turkey – with the exception of the Golden Horn (where a good deal of their historical mosques and buildings are). Cyprus will be part of Turkey, as well as Azerbaijan.I have some territorial edits when I make the application, however. Azerbaijan (part of the Republic of Turkey) loses Kalbajar-Lachin (currently, the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic) as it successfully separates from Azerbaijan and becomes part of Armenia or whoever is controlling Armenia. If I don't change anything in my application and if anyone doesn't mind, Cyprus became part of Turkey after Turkey stages a military coup in Greek Cyprus in 2028, and completed its invasion of the island. Also, I realized that you CAN


I doubt that Azerbaijan would agree to be "annexed" annexed by Turkey. They're allies, but they're very distinct countries. I believe that it would probably just be a close-knit alliance.

And then if the Turks try anything Iran is there to back up Armenia. Mostly because they have a large minority in Iran and there's a lot of interdependence with trade and culture and stuff.
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Stale Pizza said
Well. we can build a wall between Greek Thrace and Turkish Anatolia – the Asian part of Turkey – with the exception of the Golden Horn (where a good deal of their historical mosques and buildings are). Cyprus will be part of Turkey, as well as Azerbaijan.I have some territorial edits when I make the application, however. Azerbaijan (part of the Republic of Turkey) loses Kalbajar-Lachin (currently, the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic) as it successfully separates from Azerbaijan and becomes part of Armenia or whoever is controlling Armenia. If I don't change anything in my application and if anyone doesn't mind, Cyprus became part of Turkey after Turkey stages a military coup in Greek Cyprus in 2028,


I'll allow you to have Cyprus and the Golden horn, as I have little interest in mainland Turkey. but I already stated in my app that I control up to West Istanbul. Other than that, I don't own Armenia, and you might have to take it up with Darkwolf, I think.
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Turkey may be a Turkish state, but it's unlikely - as it seems everyone seems to ignore for everything else - that peaceful annexation is pretty rare and far between. In so far as I know it's only really happened once in modern history (Anschluss von Osteriech) or with heavy evidence of tampering with the political conditions of a region (Russian Ukraine). Very little will a nation simply decide to let themselves be annexed by another state unless extreme conditions are met (the state is already occupied and the native government has no means to actively resist when the occupying nation passes legislation to recognize them as a formal territory, there's already extreme economic dependence on the region for the other nation, or both have already heavily blurred cultural and political lines [such as in the theoretical idea that in at-least pre-9/11 politics Canada and the US could have merged given their close cultural state and extremely open trade between the two, however this'd still create international drama and drama inside the two nations]).

Turkey being Turkish may lead to the idea that they could vie for a massive Turkish State and take over old and current Turkish states and region. But this concept would be better established in regions where Political Tengrism would be more popular. But these areas probably would not have the manpower to enforce a policy of building a Turkish mega-state, and Turkey's part of the theoretical Islamic Caliphate which'd turn it into too much of a battleground politically if classical paganism faced a greater resurgence than it is now (or in the nationalist circles of Kazakhstan, maybe).

And on a rambling note: Lithuania is slowly re-discovering its native pagan faith: Romuva. I don't know if it'll get anywhere though. But even despite crusades into the Baltic Romuva has been very difficult to extinguish. It found itself in a massive resurgence on the waves of Classical Romanticism in the 19th century, but was eventually stamped out when the Soviets annexed Lithuania due to Romuva's highly nationalistic nature.

However, now that the Soviet Empire dissolved and Lithuania is its own thing, free of the yoke of Moscow Romuva's been finding itself a home in its old home. Not sure if it could ever grow to be a majority religion again. I don't know if the cultural and artistic waves have that power or direction anymore.
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