Dinh AaronMk said
I'm pretty sure "fear" of military invasion and economic depression would be a means for a regional military alliance between states and a likely independent economic cooperation zone between them, but no means to inspire everyone's foreign policy to be orchestrated by a single body. That would be like having to talk to Brussels to enter talks with Germany, but only deal with the Belgians. And that sort of control would probably sooner or later cause anger from within the member nations when the "senate body" makes unpopular foreign policy decisions on the guise that it's good for everyone. It's pretty much what's screwing up the European Union already, a international body seen by euro-skeptics as being irrelevant and detrimental to unique national issues is a terrible thing.And the Hungarians and Romanians aren't Slavs.The Hungarians are more culturally related to irrelevant Finns as being members of the Ugric family tree. The Romanians are their own very unique thing: Vlachs, Latinized Eastern Europeans living in parts of Northern Greece, Romania, and Moldovia. They speak a Latinized language, a Romance language like the French, Spanish, and Italians.And issue with communication wouldn't be simply state-level, diplomats and statesmen would presumably already know a general language for diplomatic purposes (as Latin was classically used, then French, then English). The issue with the language barrier is between common people and to be able to read and speak it and use it intelligently.Even between users of the same language bi-party trust may not always be there to properly run this sort of thing without it eventually being killed democratically or in violen revolution. As an example: though the US views Canada and Canadians highly, the Canadians don't view us in the same light. I believe the current positive opinion of the US in Canada is 40-50%.And 10/10 replacing Romanians with gypsies. I'm sure there's a big diaspora loving Poland for promoting the inevitable gypsy-ran holocaust of a proud European native. It's like everything Eastern Europe feared. It's what the Nazis warned them about: those damn Jews and Gypsies would kill them all, pollute their proud, pure heritage!

Yeah, sorry, the gypsy thing was a typo. I meant to put down Romanians.
And, yes, I fully realize that Hungarians and Romanians aren't Slavs, but every single bit of research I'm dug up says that they both think highly of Poland in foreign policy, and vice versa. The EEDC isn't a -purely- cultural union.
On the topic of that senate body, it doesn't deal with those unique national issues. If something happens that pertains specifically to one country, they decide what happens, not the international body. And, even in the situations where the international body makes decisions. Even if the representativesthe country's people elect do something they don't want, heavy dissent would force a change in decision to be made, not to mention the fact that the options of abstention or veto are always open. On the note of forming the coalition, too, not only did the countries fear economic collapse and military invasion, but they had experience them, seen them happen, and were even watching them happen as the coalition formed, not to mention the fact that very few nations in that region would be genuinely economically or militarily powerful by themselves. They'd need the help of bigger nations to really flourish.

Also, on the note of religion, there is no actual atheist majority. That 31% is a combination of atheists AND agnostics, not to mention the fact that the other major denominations are, for the most part, Christian.

TheEvanCat said
I doubt that Azerbaijan would agree to be "annexed" annexed by Turkey. They're allies, but they're very distinct countries. I believe that it would probably just be a close-knit alliance.And then if the Turks try anything Iran is there to back up Armenia. Mostly because they have a large minority in Iran and there's a lot of interdependence with trade and culture and stuff.

I believe that annexation of Azerbaijan could be possible because they both have went through a world war. Azerbaijan may have been attacked by northern forces i.e the great and powerful Russia who managed to conquer Georgia and Armenia. Azerbaijan would have been crushed by these forces and lost some land during the process.

Turkey has similarly lost and gained some land (losing the Thracian part of Turkey but gaining Cyprus) to Greece, but they may have suffered less compared to Azerbaijan, which is much smaller and may have been weakened.

The problem I see with annexing Azerbaijan is possibly angering Kemalist nationalists, and creating some issues with Georgia, Iran, Turkmenistan, and the other "Turkic" states. Russia and Iran might react negatively, especially Iran for possibly instigating an Azeri uprising (Iran has a big Azeri population).

Turkey might benefit overall, since Azerbaijan links to the Caspian Sea and most of all, natural resources that Turkey lacks.

However, standard course of action for these things is to form an alliance. Europe all didn't merge into one state after WWII, despite the fact that they were hammered to the ground viciously. People want their states to be independent. They want security but also their own governance - an alliance can handle that, just like NATO did and still does.

This is a problem that I have with every super state here. Aaron, I'm sure, agrees as well. Alliances, yes. Large scale annexations, however, are rarely peaceful or deemed beneficial to both parties.

TheEvanCat said
However, standard course of action for these things is to form an alliance. Europe all didn't merge into one state after WWII, despite the fact that they were hammered to the ground viciously. People want their states to be independent. They want security but also their own governance - an alliance can handle that, just like NATO did and still does. This is a problem that I have with every super state here. Aaron, I'm sure, agrees as well. Alliances, yes. Large scale annexations, however, are rarely peaceful or deemed beneficial to both parties.

"Super-state"

There's always going to be that aggressive imperialist country everyone hates.

Back to the topic, I can drop Azerbaijan, though if anyone still wants it, then we can probably agree on non-vise travel and having this "defend each other" concept in case Russia attacks.

((Non-visa travel with Turkey and Azerbaijan was dropped some time before due to pressure from Iran.))

Azerbaijan (and by extent: Armenia) are also considered a historical part of Greater Iran, which'd be a sound reason on why the Iranians would want to curb non-Persian influence on them. Which'd probably be why a diplomatic union of the two would be hard, or would not go down very well.

What the hell is going on with Afghanistan's borders on the map?

I'm going to world build Afghanistan and make a organization which may or may not be terrorist in nature, but the borders on aaron's map seem a little weird.

I traced them over a world-map I found that included rivers. However I had to blow it up some to get it to the desired resolution I needed.

And double checking, it looks like I didn't notice a line and absorbed Afghanistan into Turkmenistan.

Shorter post, but its bout time I got something up.

If the 'Mericans want a gun, here's a gun design I did for an Arma mod that I can post here:



It fits perfectly in the the defense acquisition policy of "it has to be of an AR15 or we'll stomp it back down into oblivion while we ejaculate money into Colt's open mouth."

Give me its name and its the official weapon of the NAF army.

I think it's supposed to be like, the LSAT rifle.

TheEvanCat said
If the 'Mericans want a gun, here's a gun design I did for an Arma mod that I can post here:It fits perfectly in the the defense acquisition policy of "it has to be of an AR15 or we'll stomp it back down into oblivion while we ejaculate money into Colt's open mouth."

Hey, Evan, what program did you use to design that?

Name of Nation: Ενωμένη Μεσογειακή-Βαλκανική Δημοκρατία (United Democracy of Mediterrenean-Balkans)
Territories:Spain, Portugal, Italy, and all balkanic countries except for eastern Turkey
Government Type: Democracy
Military: Keeping the ancient tradition of sea supremacy of all countries merged into the Democracy, its main focus is the Navy (Θαλάσσιο Θηρευτικόn, roughly meaning Hunter Navy). Dedicated -some of them nuclear- destroyers have megaton-class lasers capable to drown anything the size of a frigate by themselves after less than 3 minutes of exposure, while submarines capable of launching any kind of torpedo or missile in great quantities to any target can be reloaded underwater by dedicated ordnance-loaded submarines without launch systems for maximum stealth and arsenal. It's 2 aircraft carriers, one positioned in Greece and another in Portugal, are gigantic semi-stealth nuclear behemoths that are dedicated to (as long as enough materials are stationed) the stationing, retrieval, guidance, repairing, loading, and even creation from scratch of naval UCAV's or RUVs. Of course, some small manned aircraft can also land and station on the carriers. An awful lot of smaller vessels are included, but they are not worth mentioning because of the small time limit I have on writing that app.
Some Balkan countries (mostly Turkey) have also evolved their ground forces (Χερσαίο Πολεμικό, meaning Land Army) more than the others (though technology is shared between territories, of course), including tanks with deuterium concentrated plasma artillery (exotic technology that encases plasma in an electromagnetic field around a sulfur amalgram that allows a ball of plasma to travel at extreme distances with extreme speed and good accuracy, with generally small explosive power but good radiation radius from a small fusion reaction -no fallout is created), great MBTs, APCs that can hover around terrain for a while, experimental railgunss etc.
Military aviation and missile technology is more concentrated on Greece and Italy. Small stealth bombers with guided bombs/missile are being tested, while fighters and bombers haeve been completely merged into offense aircraft for the rest of the part. Experimental carrier craft can also launch or even retrieve UCAVs under their wings or through the back door of the fuselage. Missiles are not by much any achievement (though generally good), except for those who deliver very big bombs who somehow include all possible means of guidance, plus a couple more, but with inadequate destructive power for their cost -reserving them for targets of unbelievable importance only.
Economy: Mostly hydrocarbon extraction and artificial production of it. Nuclear reactors and general research of radioactive technology are only stationed in Spain and Portugal, because of intense seismic conditions in the rest of the nation, and because fallout coming from France can be more easily examined this way. This did not stop CERN from setting another collider between Greece and Albania, though, examining that conditions are milder there. Natural gas is also extracted, along with petroleum, from all balkanic countries except for Greece and Turkey.
Foreign Policy: When superiority is held over a country diplomacy is held with, their leader and diplomats are moved with our own vehicles to Rome, where diplomatic operations are held. When superiority is held by the other country, diplomats from all countries included i the nation go to the capitol of the other nation, with a small military power meant solely for self-defense and are prohibited to shoot until they're shot at. If diplomacy is successful, the vehicles at those forces are immediately offered as a gift, while infantry return along with the diplomats at the other nation's vehicles, which are also offered by the other nation and travel to Bulgaria for reverse-engineering.
All allied nations are equal to us, and no restrictions are held to them. However, any signs of mutiny will be permanently dealt with in less than 24 hours.
History:Coming soon.
Foes:Germany, Eastern Turkey, Eqypt.
Demographics:30 million people, hailing from all the countries of the alliance. Official languages are Greek and Italian.
Other:Coming soon.

I'm no its not finished but im already going to have to say no.

The countries you selected don't really make sense together.

Am I good to go?

Did you decide to abandon those British Islands?

I did indeed. Have we figured out who was on whose side in the war?

I don't think so, we should await more people applying or Aaron making suggestions since he would have a good idea of how WW3 might go down.

Edit:Yes your good to go.

It is starting to reach the point that we should just assign people. Everyone wants to have been neutral.