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Awesome. ^^Well you already have the gist of the idea from what I suggested OOC, we can use the second pad since it's not being used.https://www.piratepad.ca/p/Alessian_RP2As for bretons, I suppose that's true, always though the Imp's were more the Masters of none in TES, but they don't have that inborn magic. I also notice allot of love on forums for the reachmen, folks going so far as wishing for a DLC to allow you to join them, that one just makes no sense to me. :P


What I really want is a new game in Daggerfall, there's a lot of lore about "questing to become a noblemen" and the varying arts and espionage the Bretons are apparently involved in that might make for interesting intrigue. Of course, given bethesdas track record of "narrative" I doubt it'd be anything mind blowing.

Or Altmer game. I WANT TO KNOW JUST HOW JAPANESE THEY ARE.



ALSO THIS
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Hmm, indeed, I'm thinking of working with one of the elf characters to get into the Jarl's good graces. Any takers?Also, why do so many ppl seem to love bretons so much? Their the highest chosen characters even on ESO, despite being the seemingly most boring of the races. :K


Boring?

BORING?

BOOOORIIIIIIIIING?!?!?!?!?

Also, please keep in mind that Shoddycast misrepresents facts or sometimes gets them completely wrong.
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I'm hoping Sovi3t's back soon. Chrono's intro, the next step of our plan and a post that could move things on are all queued up behind mine and Sovi3t's collab.
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Boring?BORING?Also, please keep in mind that Shoddycast misrepresents facts or sometimes gets them completely wrong.


^

Glad there is someone else who does not take what Shoddy says as fact. He says himself he is not infallible.

And yes, you heard me, their boring, all the mug pictures in the world wont change that fact! And ugly too. :P

Also what I hope for is a Hammerfell game at some point, hellvalot of lore in just Yokuda alone they can shed more lot on, ESO gives little tidbits here and there.

Also Altmer never struck me as japan inspired, That would seem more in the realm of the Akaviri or Yokudans with their sword-cult.
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^Glad there is someone else who does not take what Shoddy says as fact. He says himself he is not infallible. And yes, you heard me, their boring, all the mug pictures in the world wont change that fact! And ugly too. :PAlso what I hope for is a Hammerfell game at some point, hellvalot of lore in just Yokuda alone they can shed more lot on, ESO gives little tidbits here and there. Also Altmer never struck me as japan inspired, That would seem more in the realm of the Akaviri or Yokudans with their sword-cult.


They LITERALLY make katana swords and they're xenophobic and on an island and the most technologically advanced race. All things japan has, was, and is.



Also this.
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They LITERALLY make katana swords and they're xenophobic and on an island and the most technologically advanced race. All things japan has, was, and is.Also this.


Woah, there, slow down, n'wah.

It's said in Morrowind that the old Dunmer smithing masters are the only ones on Tamriel who can forge Akaviri style weaponry and it is a dying art. The proximity to Akavir and the past contact with them has allowed them to see katanas and whatnot up-close. If anyone strikes me as inspired by Japan, it'd be, well, the most obvious, the Tsaesci, or the Yokudans.
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They LITERALLY make katana swords and they're xenophobic and on an island and the most technologically advanced race. All things japan has, was, and is.Also this.


Actually, being the furthest from Akaviri they have no sword smiths who can create katana's, as for the technologically advanced thing, that once again goes to the Yokudans, as they had the most advanced culture and race that would make the rest of Tamriel look like primitive apes.

As a side note, Japan, due to closing off their island, were the most backward nation in terms of technology, it was not until a steam powered ship showed up on their shores did they realize how far back they were, all their efforts to rid themselves of gun powder was to preserve the sword cult and the power of the samurai.

Saying their japan inspired is like saying their also Sparta inspired, cause they kill 9 children out of 10 if he is even a little blemished or 'imperfect' in their eyes.

Also that's a fan made picture....
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I'm on Piratepad if anyone wants to collab
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The first Piratepad is giving me a pesky 504. Looks like LITERALLY EVERYTHING I'VE WORKED TOWARDS HAS GONE TO SHIT. That is unless I can somehow connect.

Edit: After further research, it seems only piratepad.ca hates me. The beta ".net" works for me like always. If Sovi3t can connect to the .ca and copy paste everything we wrote into a .net pad then we can finally get this show on the road, because as it stands, the only thing keeping my friend from posting is the fact that his post is heavily dependent on mine and Sovi3t's collab.
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Actually, being the furthest from Akaviri they have no sword smiths who can create katana's, as for the technologically advanced thing, that once again goes to the Yokudans, as they had the most advanced culture and race that would make the rest of Tamriel look like primitive apes. As a side note, Japan, due to closing off their island, were the most backward nation in terms of technology, it was not until a steam powered ship showed up on their shores did they realize how far back they were, all their efforts to rid themselves of gun powder was to preserve the sword cult and the power of the samurai. Saying their japan inspired is like saying their also Sparta inspired, cause they kill 9 children out of 10 if he is even a little blemished or 'imperfect' in their eyes. Also that's a fan made picture....


But the Yokudan island sank beneath the ocean...and Redguards are Yakudan descendents. It's a dead race. I don't think there was anything implying anything besides magical sword building prowess. Wouldn't Dwemer be more accurate? The guys who literally have soul powered death bots? It's implied the Yakudans were technologically advanced AT THE TIME but it's been a long time since that specific nations existed.

Also the 9/10 children thing has been contradicted by the Altmer having crazy low birth rates. The last time that was even mentioned was in the first pocket guide to the empire booklets of Redguard, a game made 16 years ago (there have since been new additions). Though it might also be implied that they used to do that, but not so much anymore. Then again, the 1st edition of the same guide is later said by the 3rd edition that the 1st edition was FILLED with human propaganda (3rd edition was provided with Oblivion). So there's that.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Pocket_Guide_to_the_Empire,_3rd_Edition/Foreword

Mentions that much of the first edition was lies. Right now the 9 out of 10 altmer thing contradicts their birthrate of maybe 4 children in 1,000 years.

WHY IS A FAN MADE PICTURE ON THE WIKI, WHO WOULD DO THIS. (They actually have a copyright disclaimer saying it's from bethesda so I'm gonna investigate)

Edit: As far as I've found, that image is concept art from Oblivion. THANK GOD
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But the Yokudan island sank beneath the ocean...and Redguards are Yakudan descendents. It's a dead race. I don't think there was anything implying anything besides magical sword building prowess. Wouldn't Dwemer be more accurate? The guys who literally have soul powered death bots? It's implied the Yakudans were technologically advanced AT THE TIME but it's been a long time since that specific nations existed.Also the 9/10 children thing has been contradicted by the Altmer having crazy low birth rates. The last time that was even mentioned was in the first pocket guide to the empire booklets of Redguard, a game made 16 years ago (there have since been new additions). Though it might also be implied that they used to do that, but not so much anymore. Then again, the 1st edition of the same guide is later said by the 3rd edition that the 1st edition was FILLED with human propaganda (3rd edition was provided with Oblivion). So there's that.http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Pocket_Guide_to_the_Empire,_3rd_Edition/ForewordMentions that much of the first edition was lies. Right now the 9 out of 10 altmer thing contradicts their birthrate of maybe 4 children in 1,000 years.WHY IS A FAN MADE PICTURE ON THE WIKI, WHO WOULD DO THIS. (They actually have a copyright disclaimer saying it's from bethesda so I'm gonna investigate)Edit: As far as I've found, that image is concept art from Oblivion. THANK GOD


Not technology advanced, culturally, there is a bit of a difference, the only things that survived would be their architecture (still ahead of what the imperials at least are capable of) their agriculture/irrigation, the main reason they can even thrive in Alik'r, and their seafaring skills. (And their warrior culture and advanced martial arts of course)

Side note: why do you keep saying Yakudans? o.0

Also there is evidence at least not all of Yokuda sunk into the sea, since a; that much land mass displacing that much water would have Nirn wild consequences and would have certainly been felt in Tam, but there is no mention of any devastators during that date that would sink up, B; explores apparently still travel to Yokuda and return, hence likely one of the reasons Bethesda keeps putting the place on the map. Certainly something happened there, but as to why the Ra gada came to Hammerfell specifically, we're kinda still in the dark
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Look, Sovi3t, I'm going to only say this once more, but if you don't start communicating with me about this collab, then I'm going to disregard everything in that collab and move on with my own plans.

Edit: Suitable middle-ground reached. It still stands that I am not pleased with your lack of input through PMs.
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I'm back! And I'm reading over what you wrote, everything looks good so far, including Mirabelle, and I will try to respond to what I need to soon. I encourage everyone to join the bonfire tonight in my actual collab, found here. Here you can talk to Dengeir or our special new arrival on the scene, or do anything else, and I will be sure to respond to it. Just make a separate paragraph and note your username and I think it will work well.

Just in case some shenanigans go down or the site crashes here is what I wrote.
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My Microsoft wont open at all for some damn abysmal reason, thus the post I was working on seems lost to me atm.

So I might take a bit longer until I post in the pad, will try fixing it again, if nothing works I'll just have to make due.
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My Microsoft wont open at all for some damn abysmal reason, thus the post I was working on seems lost to me atm. So I might take a bit longer until I post in the pad, will try fixing it again, if nothing works I'll just have to make due.


Use open office to open the file perhaps (open office is a open source microsoft office imitation that can open those files)
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Use open office to open the file perhaps (open office is a open source microsoft office imitation that can open those files)


Dude, you're a life saver. <3 ^^
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Pretty quiet in here...
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Indeed...still waiting on word from Crya to finish my collab with Tail.
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He must be a busy guy. After everyone posts their independent posts, we should hold off on collabs with each other and focus on the pad to finish it off as a group.
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Sorry for the unexpected leave of absence. I'll be checking the pad again regularly.
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