Dismissing arguments because theyre long is literally the laziest and worst reason for not having a discussion.

He Who Walks Behind said
I was polite to Arch until he didn't read my post, attempted to reply to it regardless, and then proceeded to give my friend and I unsolicited writing advice. That's not helpful or trying to find a solution, it's just belittling. It's the same as going to a basketball game, watching none of it, finding out what the score was at the end, and trying to tell the players how they could improve. His advice wasn't even pertinent, as he was quoting Stephen King's "On Writing", a book that talks about writing fiction (and, yeah, cutting out needless stuff is a very useful thing to keep in mind when writing, but there's a difference between length and needless fluff; Archmage incorrectly said King advocates minimalism in his writing and keeping things as short as possible, which is not true) when we're dealing with nonfiction/rhetoric, which is entirely different. And, not to sound condescending here, we're thoroughly dissecting the problems we see in this RP. If it's more than you feel like reading, don't read it. We put this in the OOC and not PM's because we felt they were issues that threatened the overall RP, and if you're not concerned with that, keep on scrolling. I feel like trying to summarize it into one sentence is pointless, and being told that we should is dismissive of the effort we've put into analyzing what we perceive as wrong. Likewise, saying it's all an angry rant writes off any legitimacy I had without actually responding to it. Regardless, I have issued "one sentence" criticisms previously in the OOC and they've been ignored. I feel my posts get to the point perfectly; there are many points, and I elaborate on them. I'm not rambling or attempting to misdirect you with their size, they're merely my full thoughts on the matter. My posts aren't big to try and confuse anyone; they're big because I have a lot to say. Well, had.And I don't mean to be petty or semantic, but telling us that we fail at language while saying "if people can't understand what your saying" is somewhat ironic. Telling us that it's our failing after you thoroughly read the entire thing and responded isn't anything on us, that seems to be more of a problem on your end. If you were confused by anything in there, you should've mentioned it with your initial response and not halfway through the argument that followed.Regardless, this is going nowhere. Out, for good.

no offense but the fact that you can't get to the point with a single issue as you and Leonerdo put it, then it sounds like you're trying lecture people and over complicate things for sake of sounding smart. Dude no one likes being lectured too and you're causing confusion which doesn't help at all and ruins the feel of the rp, which is why I suggested taking this to the PMs. The fact that you keep coming back after saying you are done with this rp shows that you're trying to continue the argument instead of just leaving.

And I completely agree with LeeRoy, if you have ONE issue with the rp then the why hell do you make such long posts? It is ridiculous and unnecessary. Whenever I have a problem with an rp I get to the point and don't go on a lecture, which why my post are almost always two paragraphs at the most. and again Archmage was simply trying to tell you stop over explaining things and bringing up multiple things because it confuses people, not everyone shares your same communication style.

So for the last time I am telling you that if you don't get to the point then I don't see a need to clog up the OOC with insanely long posts that confuse people.

TheBiddz said
Dismissing arguments because theyre long is literally the laziest and worst reason for not having a discussion.

It is unnecessary to have to such long posts for one issue which has clearly caused confusion. In my opinion when someone over explains a single issue like what was discussed then they are trying to sound smart and don't help at all.

Dude, you and I both know that I can conduct an argument in less than 100 words. You don't have to write a damned essay to get your point across.

LeeRoy said
Dude, you and I both know that I can conduct an argument in less than 100 words. You don't have to write a damned essay to get your point across.

are you replying to He Who Walks Behind?

I was replying to Biddz.

LeeRoy said
I didn't read a damn thing about that entire argument and I have no regrets, because anybody who spends that much time writing an argument for one singular post when it hasn't been a running problem, has nothing better to do.

You're probably right :/. I lost about two hours of sleep reading this shit and thinking of something useful to say, but at the end of it my post apparently wasn't even glanced at.

And come on really, are these arguments still going on? Now apparently about whether or not it was necessary to write a whole damn essay to get a point across. Can we all just go back to arguing about Superman or something? You guys probably are going to make this thing die if you keep this up.

Yes, HWWB and Leonerdo have both left. There is no point in continuing this discussion.

Arguing about post length is unneeded and in the long run may actually damage this RP. I will ask all of you to not discuss this further and clog up this OOC with this or any other argument that has no point.

Krein said
You're probably right :/. I lost about two hours of sleep reading this shit and thinking of something useful to say, but at the end of it my post apparently wasn't even glanced at.And come on really, are these arguments still going on? Now apparently about whether or not it was necessary to write a whole damn essay to get a point across. Can we all just go back to arguing about Superman or something? You guys probably going to make this thing die if you keep this up.

okay, on the subject of Superman, I highly recommend you watch Superman vs The Elite, it is one of my favorite Superman stories I have seen.

MrDidact said
Yes, HWWB and Leonerdo have both left. There is no point in continuing this discussion.Arguing about post length is unneeded and in the long run may actually damage this RP. I will ask all of you to not discuss this further and clog up this OOC with this or any other argument that has no point.

I'm sorry we clogged up your rp with this argument, I just didn't see their need for such unnecessary long posts. I hope you're not mad or frustrated.

I slept through all of this.

Abysse said
I slept through all of this.

that was probably for the best

Soooo... anyone else a fan of Atrocitus and the Red Lanterns? They've got to be my favorite Corps overall.

Yog, I'm not frustrated at any of you and hope we can proceed in this RP. What frustrated me was HWWB's and Leonerdo's refusal to acknowledge my points or Krein's points, explain their own positions clearly and consistently, and outright ignoring things I have said before.

Krein, I don't know much about Red Lanterns. But apparently they can basically perform blood magic with their rings. I approve. This reminds me I might need to implant some version of the Lanterns in this RP....

And posted an update.

Krein said
Soooo... anyone else a fan of Atrocitus and the Red Lanterns? They've got to be my favorite Corps overall.

Green Lanterns for me. The original, and the best.

How many tentacles does Octo Dad have in the prison there?

If you mean Twister, just two that are attached to his arms.

*double posts*

Krein said
Soooo... anyone else a fan of Atrocitus and the Red Lanterns? They've got to be my favorite Corps overall.

Indigo is my favorite and Orange is my second favorite, I like all of the others equally

Remind me, is Twisters arms metallic?

Yep they are metal.