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Shows how up to date I am I'm 90% sure you can duplicate diamond ore blocks with silk touch and the Double Drop (and the regular Super Breaker can do it too, sorta) passive ability for mcMMO.


Okay that's what you mean. Duplicate (or dupe) in my mind means you exploit a bug to duplicate an item. Like say you place a block then silk touch it and get 2. That was what I thought you meant.

Yes you can get double (or even triple with superbreaker skill) ore drops, but that's a whole part of mcmmo, is basically the main aspect of mining, and I definitely don't wanna see that taken out. I wouldn't have spent so much time getting to lvl 1000 if I knew that might go down.

also you made me say the name wrong again. apparently it's mythicdrops I believe.
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Okay that's what you mean. Duplicate (or dupe) in my mind means you exploit a bug to duplicate an item. Like say you place a block then silk touch it and get 2. That was what I thought you meant.Yes you can get double (or even triple with superbreaker skill) ore drops, but that's a whole part of mcmmo, is basically the main aspect of mining, and I definitely don't wanna see that taken out. I wouldn't have spent so much time getting to lvl 1000 if I knew that might go down. also you made me say the name wrong again. apparently it's mythicdrops I believe.


It's essentially duplicating if you can turn 1 diamond ore block into stacks and stacks of diamonds simply by mining it over and over with a silk touch and causing you to get more ore blocks.

Like say you place a block then silk touch it and get 2.


That's exactly what I'm saying.
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It's essentially duplicating if you can turn 1 diamond ore block into stacks and stacks of diamonds simply by mining it over and over with a silk touch and causing you to get more ore blocks.


Like I said, this is not possible.

You find a vein and you mine it, you can get double or even triple. I found 2 veins mashed together so it was like 10 ore blocks that I mined to get 30 ore blocks. Now if I place one down then grab it up again with my silk touch, it doesn't do shit. It only works on pre-generated blocks, it's not exploitable. All I would do is waste durability on my silk touch pick.

Believe you me, smiral and I may have truckloads of diamonds thanks to mcmmo, but there's no duplicating happening.
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Doivid said
Like I said, this is not possible.You find a vein and you mine it, you can get double or even triple. I found 2 veins mashed together so it was like 10 ore blocks that I mined to get 30 ore blocks. Now if I place one down then grab it up again with my silk touch, it doesn't do shit. It works on pre-generated blocks, it's not exploitable. All I would do is waste durability on my silk touch pick.Believe you me, smiral and I may have truckloads of diamonds thanks to mcmmo, but there's no duplicating happening.


For some reason I was pretty sure it worked for placed blocks as well. I planned on testing it, too, but server...
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For some reason I was pretty sure it worked for placed blocks as well. I planned on testing it, too, but server...


Well I'm like 99% sure it doesn't, but test it and let me know. I don't want an exploitable bug, but I don't think they'd leave such a glaring one in there.
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Well I'm like 99% sure it doesn't, but test it and let me know. I don't want an exploitable bug, but I don't think they'd leave such a glaring one in there.


I responded to "economy" in an earlier edit.

And for the record, while I was wrong about infinite diamonds, I still think that something like multiplying your diamonds with silk touch, followed by the standard multiplying with Fortune/Double Drops is overpowered. I'm not arguing for it's removal, as I don't think I would win that one (and I used it a bit myself), but I think that is just one example of how fucked our economy would be if we enabled it with our current set-up. I've accepted the idea of people's ability to get WAYYY more diamonds than they would on vanilla, but translating that to way more everything with an economy doesn't sit well with me.
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I responded to "economy" in an earlier edit.And for the record, while I was wrong about infinite diamonds, I still think that something like multiplying your diamonds with silk touch, followed by the standard multiplying with Looting/Double Drops is overpowered. I'm not arguing for it's removal, as I don't think I would win that one (and I used it a bit myself), but I think that is just one example of how fucked our economy would be if we enabled it with out current set-up. I've accepted the idea of people's ability to get WAYYY more diamonds than they would on vanilla, but translating that to way more everything with an economy doesn't sit well with me.


can change value requirements in the code for the economy right?

like I said, I barely even know what an economy plugin would entail other than being able to mess around with money.
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can change value requirements in the code for the economy right?like I said, I barely even know what an economy plugin would entail other than being able to mess around with money.


I don't think the requirements for things could be very balanced to appease light players and heavy players alike with what is almost exponential growth of resources at later stages of the game.

I'm also unsure as to exactly what it would entail, but I'm going off of the idea that you can trade your diamonds in for money/items.
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I don't think the requirements for things could be very balanced to appease light players and heavy players alike with what is almost exponential growth of resources at later stages of the game.


You may be worrying too much, there's not a huge barrier to entry to big drops.
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I don't think the requirements for things could be very balanced to appease light players and heavy players alike with what is almost exponential growth of resources at later stages of the game.I'm also unsure as to exactly what it would entail, but I'm going off of the idea that you can trade your diamonds in for money/items.


What I'm saying can all be boiled down to this: the power/diamonds/money curve of mcmmo is too high for a practical economy.

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You may be worrying too much


Maybe
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Can't you two just tell that you love each-other?
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I would love HorseStats. In memory of Milkshake. ;-;
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I would love HorseStats. In memory of Milkshake. ;-;


Damn you've had all the losses
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I would love HorseStats. In memory of Milkshake. ;-;


That wasn't the one I helped name was it? Someone asked for help naming their horse and I suggested oreo milkshake or some shit. I forget now. lol
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Yeah, I named him Milkshake. And then someone took him. Or he wandered off. >>;
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What about the pet plugin?
When you kill a mob with a bone, you tame it plugin?
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Yeah, I named him Milkshake. And then someone took him. Or he wandered off. >>;


I know, and he had saddle or armor or something on him too. :(

I can give you a saddle and horse armor to replace those at least, if you want.
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Can't you two just tell that you love each-other?


I love you more.
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It's essentially duplicating if you can turn 1 diamond ore block into stacks and stacks of diamonds simply by mining it over and over with a silk touch and causing you to get more ore blocks.


I went from 39 diamond ore to 37 somehow trying this once, you definitely can't exploit it.

Also the server's been down since yesterday for me, fix it.
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