Serpentine88 said
The problem (In my opinion, since obviously there is a significant group who disagree) with dropping everyone to a single region is that it'll get really weird when nations that have 10-20 million people are the exact same size as nations with 100-120 million people. This can be solved by forcing everyone to have the same population size, but then the game's war mechanics become extremely unbalanced because numerical superiority focused factions or factions with inferior technology but superior numbers become meaningless.Another problem with forcing everyone to be 1-region states is that everyone will be way too far from each other, nearly everyone's neighbours will be NPC's or no-mans-land. The military, trade and diplomatic problems with this are obvious.

Yeah, as much as the massive land-grabs don't make sense, dropping everyone to a single region wouldn't either. Perhaps we should just wait for Kilo to give her word on this before taking up a mob-rule on it?

Alfhedil said
Yeah, as much as the massive land-grabs don't make sense, dropping everyone to a single region wouldn't either. Perhaps we should just wait for Kilo to give her word on this before taking up a mob-rule on it?

Agreed. Someone activate the Kilo-signal and wait on top of city hall for her arrival. In the meantime I'm off to play darts; please don't let me return to a bloodbath.

Somewhat interested, but boy oh boy does it suck to see that everyone has absorbed all of the islands in the roleplay.

*Lights something on fire and pushes it towards thread*

There, that should get her attention. Meanwhile, I'm both cursing the Heer and thanking them for their naming conventions. Makes things right convenient in a way for naming vehicles and divisions, but I also get this creeping feeling that Eisenkreis may be looking like a certain other faction >.>

Glad people appreciate the blob fillings. I have what I found and if I missed anything I'm sorry bu it was a quick and dirty in no way official landfinding solution. Heh.

Anyway i'll make a preemptive claim on 30, 31, and part of 32, (I want the hills mostly, but some flatland would be nice too, don't need much forest.) if no one objects of course.

Honestly, in hindsight, I don't need the three provinces that I claimed in the slightest. I'm not exactly a blob, but perhaps dropping my nation down to just own 42 will help with things a bit. Hetteland doesn't need territory, it just needs eugenics, overt racism, backstabbing politicians, and a military which is extremely competent in mountain warfare :).

So yeah, if you want to cut Hetteland down to just owning 42, that'd be great. Some lower population figures across the board would be nice too, and I'd gladly scale down Hetteland a significant amount if need be. In the meantime, I'll keep on trying to iron out my Military and Economy sections. I might also add some cultural and racial stuff, I'm not sure yet.

DONT WORRY EVERYONE! I BROUGHT THE FIRE EXTINGUISHER!

First off, thank you Hidarii for the blobs, but also thanks for causing mass panic! I jest I jest.

Alright, now to adress the issues I have picked up on so far *clears thoat*

Ahem!

Alfhedil said
\o/Oh, I also had a bit of a question concerning the matter of the ICE, or internal combustion engine. I had heard from another participant that the RP had shifted a little more towards Dieselpunk, and I admit that's what drew much of my interest and is what my nation is originally based around. I can work around this to a degree, but would like a bit more solid information direct from the GM if you will. :D

As I said in the RULES of the roleplay, the internal combustion engine is much like that of the early 1900s, being a very new form of propulsion that was beginning to be applied to all sorts of transportation. What sort of specific, solid information would you want? (PM me)

Monkeypants said
And some of those nations are super massive.. like. Ultra massive.

Tatsua Aiisen said
This was mentioned before, but a lot of these claims are excessively large. This should probably be addressed...

Senor Herp said
I think 75 was some territory or protectorate of Durstweall in light green (not continental lime) and 95/94 was coast de jure belong to me but under administration and occupation from Durstweall, Shanghai-style with less economic rape and more semiconsensual modernization. And also economic rape. Map's otherwise good and illustrates that things are fairly blobby, might be because the scale of this pangaea is not set or not understood, might be that people want large blocs. I imagine the remainder of territory, assuming no further joining, is the obligatory smattering of neutrals. Not sure what ideas you might have, Hidarii, but I imagine that those middle hills, plains and woods at the mouth of the Cronemoor River would be a highway, nexus and graveyard of empires, a hotbed of world events. That Polynesia looking bit in the bottom-right is also presently unoccupied, but I think Shadow wanted it and is presently disputing his smaller size. Not sure of any others besides a 52-53-55 snake, but it'd look a bit odd. Something to work with.

Rhymer said
Wow. So many new countries. I have no idea who is what now. What's the deadline for finishing Nation Sheets? I'm up for dropping everyone down to 1 region. The population thing seems largely arbitrary because this is a numbers-less RP. Also, welcome to all the new players

Alfhedil said
While we are also looking at the geographical size of nations, perhaps this should be addressed as well. According to the setting, the world is still sorta emerging from a devastating disease that wiped out 80% of the world's population. Perhaps a bit of perspective needs to be gained here ._.

ETC ETC ETC

Alright! Here a little edit so we can control the blob monsters. When I originally said people could claim more than one territory, I didn't expect people to start making fucking grocery lists of numbers, so here's how I'm gonna cut it down:

Highlighter Yellow: Drop 64 and 67
Gigantic Whatever violet/darkpink: Drop 13, 14, 15, 16, 12, 11, 10, 24, 23, 22, 21
Brown: Drop 54 and 36
Regular Pink: Could you spare 59, 58, 57, 74, 73?

As for the population issue. The Flu was roughly 300 years ago (and that would of been with the timeline....), so I'm setting the new Pop cap at 90 million. On top of that, I really don't know, nor really care that much about the actual world scale. I always found that sort of bogs down any fantasy NRP with people debating over it, and this one has been through enough red tape. This is not a game of numbers, no rolling dice or building spreadsheets of information. This is a STORY building NRP, and I want to remind everyone of that. If there is a battle, discuss it with the opponent and make some cool story from it or not. Lose for fun and just enjoy the evolving world.

Sorry on my part for perhaps being a bit vague, like on a timeline and such. This has definitely been a lot for me to manage, BUT! I really really like that fact. It means you guys are involved enough and active enough to give me a page or two to read through when I'm gone for an hour. XD Anyway, I think I might appoint a Co-GM to help, but I'm not sure yet.

Anyway, I'll be posting an updated map soon. Once everyone gets they're Nation sheets in, I'll put names on the territories and make it all fancy. The blobs are really just there as a rough draft reference.

I will have obviously missed some of your other specific requests, so feel free to tell me now.

Oh and I'm considering closing this for NSs very soon. Thoughts?

The Captain said
I'd like to also add 75 as a colony of my state, and 94 and 95 as Imperial concessions from Herp's state to mine. We agreed to it, we have a bit of intertwined history we're planning on running with.

Kilo6 said
Awesome! I'll be sure to add that too.

B-but ...

Kilo. No I cannot spare that list you made. I said previously that I could drop 74 and 59. I even updated my map to reflect it. I do however need, 73, 58, 60, 61, 57. Those are the core of the nation.

that filthy arstozkan said Drop 13, 14, 15, 16, 12, 11, 10, 24, 23, 22, 21

That's not even a state anymore, let alone a fatass Qing Chinese one, I've been turned into Taiwan! A Taiwan with NO COAST. What gives with the reactionary land-chopping over idle quibblings about there being more large states than normal, eh?

Senor Herp said
That's not even a state anymore, let alone a fatass Qing Chinese one, I've been turned into Taiwan! A Taiwan with NO COAST. What gives with the reactionary land-chopping over idle quibblings about there being more large states than normal, eh?

Well I didn't know you were the....whatever that color was...can you at least drop two or three territories?

Raptorman said
Kilo. No I cannot spare that list you made. I said previously that I could drop 74 and 59. I even updated my map to reflect it. I do however need, 73, 58, 60, 61, 57. Those are the core of the nation.

Alrighty then.....

The Captain said
B-but ...

Fuck I was thinking of a different nation! NEVERMIND!

Senor Herp said
That's not even a state anymore, let alone a fatass Qing Chinese one, I've been turned into Taiwan! A Taiwan with NO COAST. What gives with the reactionary land-chopping over idle quibblings about there being more large states than normal, eh?

Orc China could be in the throes of a warlord era which, as far as I know with your history, wouldn't be entirely out of line. Hence the loss of control in a number of regions.

(you were too big though okay but still three regions is pretty brutal.)

I'm really starting to consider this numbered region thing was a bad idea.....

Kilo6 said
Alrighty then.....

The List you had made would have reduced Viria to half of a single territory and taken away the most important regions. Hence my objection. Thank you for understanding

I'm really starting to think this numbered region thing was a bad idea ultimately....

Also Kilo I sent you a PM a bit back, not sure if you saw it.

The idea is sound and things are going fine. Do not worry about it.

still a filthy arstozkan said Well I didn't know you were the....whatever that color was...can you at least drop two or three territories?

That's perfectly reasonable. 14, 15, 16. That whole snakey rump was intended to be a monster-riding Mongolia type business, but more hill than plain. The eastern section is proper plain besides the (overextended and bordering other mountainous powers) mountain sector of 16, so it's fine to axe. Please don't scare me like that. It was THREE. THREE! THREEEEEE!

The Captain said
Orc China could be in the throes of a warlord era which, as far as I know with your history, wouldn't be entirely out of line. Hence the loss of control in a number of regions.

SHHHHHSHSHSHSHSHHH. You know I have plans. WARLORD PLANS.

Three Captain said three regions

THREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I have placed an NS.

The Captain said
Also Kilo I sent you a PM a bit back, not sure if you saw it.

Oh sorry I didn't notice! I'll respond immediatly.

Legion X51 said
I have placed an NS.

Alright. I haven't reviewed it in detail, but read the rules and make the necessary edits. (as in no radar, modernize WWII subs, etc)