True, I am most probably the one the lovely Jest has mentioned.
Now, tissue compaction is not that much of a problem, though what I mean as the morphing is not something they would be able to undergo often, as the change from humanoid to dragonoid? (by making their skeletal structure lengthen and widen, some parts probably springing from resting-places underneath their skin. and then filling the limbs with new tissue along with part of the old.) would apart from consuming huge amounts of energy/calories make them fairly thin until they have managed to stabilize. And here I am proposing the dragon form to be a light one. The change back would create a bodily rise in temperature as the tissue and bones compact. they would also be a bit stiff as you say, like old people who doesnt exercise and stretch.

As you say, a shape-changer normally operates on a cellular level, otherwise by using an extremely fast metabolism and "soft" skeletal structures. And I might add that every shape-shifter that is only able to do one change is not worth much as far as shape-shifting goes.

What you are talking about could possibly be classed as a rearranging of some bones and muscles, would hurt a bit, but would make them more able to perform some tasks. I agree that going from a feral dragon to a humanoid is... not advised, the amount of energy, the stress on the body. not to speak of the mind.

A pleasure to meet you as well ^^

Is there still room for one more?

I don't think so, though if someone from the interest-check doesn't show up for the OOC/IC I suppose there will be.

Ok, RPG really needs to fix this problem with the site multi-posting...

Windstormugly said
True, I am most probably the one the lovely Jest has mentioned.Now, tissue compaction is not that much of a problem, though what I mean as the morphing is not something they would be able to undergo often, as the change from humanoid to dragonoid? would apart from consuming huge amounts of energy/calories make them fairly thin until they have managed to stabilize. And here I am proposing the dragon form to be a light one. The change back would create a bodily rise in temperature as the tissue and bones compact. they would also be a bit stiff as you say, like old people who doesnt exercise and stretch.As you say, a shape-changer normally operates on a cellular level, otherwise by using an extremely fast metabolism and "soft" skeletal structures. And I might add that every shape-shifter that is only able to do one change is not worth much as far as shape-shifting goes.What you are talking about could possibly be classed as a rearranging of some bones and muscles, would hurt a bit, but would make them more able to perform some tasks. I agree that going from a feral dragon to a humanoid is... not advised, the amount of energy, the stress on the body. not to speak of the mind.A pleasure to meet you as well ^^

My main thing is the change of shape AND size. Changing shape, as I said before hand is as simple as saying that there is enough cartilage and space between bones to where they could naturally and easily shift from a more feral dragon stance to a bipedal one, but in turn their feet, hands, initial leg shape (with some slight adjustments here and there) and mass intake would all still be the same. But if size is being changed as well than we have a MAJOR problem, which is a big question of "where did all the mass go?" so unless we add a classic Sci-fi shrink/grow ray inside the dragon's body, it would not work all that well.

As for the shape shifters, I'll agree that them taking only one to two shapes isn't all that much but in the end if they can dramatically change in shape like that than there really isn't too much of a reason why they can't change to other shapes as well besides them not wanting too, which would be VERY understandable because, as you said a lot of energy is being used to do such.

Not really what I was talking about... what I'm suggesting wouldn't effect the muscles or bones too much since the change would be very minimal, main thing that could change would be the bones spacing out a bit and the muscles would hardly change, especially if they contract like you said but again that would make them very stiff in the lower body and the change would, yes, still hurt a bit (kinda like "popping" your shoulder bone) but after the initial pain it should be all good until they decide to "shift" again and it really wouldn't effect the entire body, just the legs.

Windstormugly said
Ok, RPG really needs to fix this problem with the site multi-posting...

Whenever you see a white screen, don't refresh, just go to the previous page and "go back" and then refresh there... your post should show.

Yeah, I know of the problem, thought that the site didnt have it any longer.

Oh, and regarding the mass, it thins out over a bigger volume, which means a lesser density directly afterwards. and the change back is the problem as it causes huge amounts of tissue to be useless, some parts would be able to logically ease back, but it would require a skeletal structure enabling it. Other tissue would basically fall of, like a felling of the old skin. messy indeed.

Oh and I guess I misunderstood as I was focused on a change in appearance and not just in stance ^^

Windstormugly said
Yeah, I know of the problem, thought that the site didnt have it any longer.Oh, and regarding the mass, it thins out over a bigger volume, which means a lesser density directly afterwards. and the change back is the problem as it causes huge amounts of tissue to be useless, some parts would be able to logically ease back, but it would require a skeletal structure enabling it. Other tissue would basically fall of, like a felling of the old skin. messy indeed.Oh and I guess I misunderstood as I was focused on a change in appearance and not just in stance ^^

Yeah... I would highly not do the top since it'll not only be a mess but would take a long time to recuperate from the first initial change to begin with, added with the fact that it would hurt a hell of a lot to begin with in comparison to my suggestion. Plus again the dragon would be rather stiff as well.

Well changing the stance would also change the appearance in a sense as well. If the dragon is able to naturally walk in both stances than there wouldn't bee too much of a need to change too much of the shape to begin with and again, at maximum it'd be like "popping" your shoulder and would require the utmost minimum energy and pain for such a simple "change".

Of course the dragon would still hold a similar appearance, it's just the stance and the way it walks would change.

Yes, which makes it a question of changing between dragon and dragon~
I believe there will be halfbreeds/genetically altered/yada yada... so the fact remains to be seen how the Jest implements it.
Anyways, it will be interesting nonetheless.
Now to get back and work on my own CS.
Can't wait to see yours once the OOC is up Drakel ;)

Windstormugly said
Yes, which makes it a question of changing between dragon and dragon~I believe there will be halfbreeds/genetically altered/yada yada... so the fact remains to be seen how the Jest implements it.Anyways, it will be interesting nonetheless.Now to get back and work on my own CS.Can't wait to see yours once the OOC is up Drakel ;)

Mine will be premade, from a character I created yet every time I tried to play it the RP dies before I even get close to reaching "his" story.

I'm sure you'll find it quite the enjoyable read.

0.0 so many already working on their CS's <.<

Silvir said
0.0 so many already working on their CS's <.<

As I said, I'm not working on one lol. :P

I'm just waiting for mine to be Emailed to me from the person who currently has it.

I'm waiting for an official OCC before I make my CS

Mike the Bloodwolf said
I'm waiting for an official OCC before I make my CS

okay... but good question... does the dragon completely change in shape and size between shifting from Dragon form and the "half-Dragon" form?

Well that was how it original worked but people seem to have a problem with that so I'm not sure anymore

Mike the Bloodwolf said
Well that was how it original worked but people seem to have a problem with that so I'm not sure anymore

I see... Then if I was you dude I might want to read up on me and Wind's discussion, personally I think my suggestion would be best since a change of stance would be easier and need minimal effort to "shift" it's shape a bit. Though Wind's theory can work as well and might effect the size minor but then your dragon would be rather stiff and would have some problems with shifting, so whatever shift it takes it needs to be decided early if you go that rout.

It dloes sound like really good idea I must admit.

Sooooo... Anyone know what happened to The Jest?

I KNOW!!!

Trying to make the OOC and whatnot fit together ;)