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Hailfire said
Hey all. I'm typing up a post at the moment to keep things rolling but am considering switching character role to shield bearer/tank due to the gap overall. It would require a significant change of skills and stats to be effective however for my character to be effective in this and so I would need permission to re-spec.


I see no issue with this
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also. should their be shield moves? I know the ones we saw in the anime were primarily extra skills but it occurs to me that if shield is a combat skill it may well have moves like <<Brace>> <<Block>> or <<Counter>>, potentially something like <<Defence Stance>> too as a kind of combat mode. I've already referenced brace IC with Shurikai as a low level defensive shield move. One that basically reduces staggering, physical statuses like Bleed and reduces damage a little.

I might go with a lance if I am going for a true Tank set up. That set up seemed popular in the anime, particularly in the raid party for The Army and the Knights Alliance. I imagine low level lances would amount to little more than a spear though. Perhaps lances are a form of heavy spear unlocked by levelling the skill?
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Edit:
Didn't read your post because it came up when I posted
Anyway, will look into it a bit more
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>^_^< thanks. I refer to the above questions in terms of equipment and the relevant moves. I will wait until after this melee to effect the changes in character... I may have to ask people to turn a blind eye to continuity problems unless they can think of an IC way to get a character re-spec.
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Hmmm

A quest might give the reward of respecing

As for shield skills I never thought of them but that works

Sorry. I'm exhausted and not feeling well.

My bed is calling me. I swear it is.
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Sorry, my post was allowing for the character to change types

Re-spec .... not sure about making a quest thing available, but generally speaking, it's not like having some agility is bad. It still helps, and there can always be the transitioning phase.
However, I am up for you to re-spec still but don't really think there would be a possibility to re-spec

With shield skills .... Let me think on that a bit

I mean, does it apply like sword skills? Therefore a shiny shield? I don't think that was a thing.
Just let us discuss the shield skills a bit more okay?

Also the thing about lances ...
Although we saw them, unsure how they were classified and used
I am unsure if they would be an Extra skill or not, but they did only show up later
It would not JUST require one thing though, Extra skill unlocks seem to be more complex and unknown than simply, get skill to this level or complete this quest
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you can do damage with your shield like punching with it and such. dunno about skills it looks a bit weird to have a glowing shield.

You could of course scream out the name of the skill and damage the enemy with it like most anime charachters do xd.
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Little_ninja said
Sorry, my post was allowing for the character to change typesRe-spec .... not sure about making a quest thing available, but generally speaking, it's not like having some agility is bad. It still helps, and there can always be the transitioning phase. However, I am up for you to re-spec still but don't really think there would be a possibility to re-spec


I don't think there would be a quest to re-spec... It wouldn't be akihiko's style to let people reverse the consequences of their decisions hence I was planning to either just ignore continuity and just switch up stats or have some form of unique event happen i.e. a glitch or something similar. Some agility isn't bad but a 19 agility 9 strength split is pretty extreme and I'd probably be looking to switch to the other extreme for a straight up tank.

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With shield skills .... Let me think on that a bitI mean, does it apply like sword skills? Therefore a shiny shield? I don't think that was a thing. Just let us discuss the shield skills a bit more okay?


Nahh there were no shiny shields in canon sao but perhaps they didn't need to be. Shields are much more passive than swords in what they do so perhaps didn't need as heavy a focus on activation... all this is speculation however. I am primarily thinking as a game mechanic for the roleplay here rather than canon SAO as a lot was left unexplained. More than happy to discuss with you about this though

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Also the thing about lances ...Although we saw them, unsure how they were classified and usedI am unsure if they would be an Extra skill or not, but they did only show up laterIt would not JUST require one thing though, Extra skill unlocks seem to be more complex and unknown than simply, get skill to this level or complete this quest


I think lances may just be high level spears to be honest. Now I think about it I didn't see anything like glaives or such later on in the anime.
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There could be a <Shield Slam> skill. Most MMOs give these kind of skills. Not much in damage but for CC. Stuns staggers and such...
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Lances work in different ways to spears, except for their thrust. Spears can be used more versatilely, whereas lances are more fixated. Glaives wouldn't be an impossible weapon to exist though. They might not have been mentioned or seen since a lot was skipped over. However, there was for a fact that Agil used a Halberd (I think) or Battle Axe of sorts. These two are similar polearms, unlike spears, which are generally classified as a separate type of weapon.

Spear --> Lance
But Also
Polearm--> Lance
Too variable
Too many possiblities

With your stat specs
I mean, sure, 9 str and 19 agi isn't a great start for a tank, however, if you go with the next 10 levels with strength, it would balance quite nicely

I don't think there was anything with shields really, just a higher shield skill meant greater reduced damage when guarding. I don't think there were any shield bash skills, I think that would just be a non-system attack, which may damage slightly and push enemies away.
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Wait what?
I got 12 on my ass now?
Thx mate, you shouldn't have...

Gonna wait a little before I post, maybe Light will post too
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Regendorf said
Wait what?I got 12 on my ass now?Thx mate, you shouldn't have...Gonna wait a little before I post, maybe Light will post too


Must be your charming personality drawing them to you ;)
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No not you Regen
The other 5 are for Shurikai
She was referring to the dagger wielding Onii-san (Typed dagger wielding again just in case)
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didn't see the dagger wielding part...sry

Anyway, Hail you're Light's friend IRL right? where is he?
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Well
I did what I needed

I think I'll head to sleep now (before 0100 ... OMG!? REALLY!?)
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Light has had guests for the last couple of days (myself included) although I have had to return to work in my hometown now. I believe he still has some guests around and so may or may not post. If I had to guess I would say most likely not until he gets some alone time but that is an assumption on my part.
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I'll try and get a post in but i have not yet had a single moment to myself since i moved in on friday hence the inactivity. I did warn you guys beforehand I would have some inactivity due to moving in and weekend things but I didn't realise I'd be quite this busy
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Sorry if I sounded like a prick...I was just wandering how you were

anyone here playing Strife?
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Hail, I'm uspet that you haven't said Hi to me.
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Anyway I've managed to get a post in now but if i don't manage to post much when you guys do then assume my character is either helping figh while you guys do while trying to get you all to run away so you dont die or is covering your escape while you bolt it then following quickly after
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