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Hidden 10 yrs ago Post by Byrd Man
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thorgili said
uhh do you have a updated version of the stats so i know how many people i lost and how many conscripts i have at this point I am very much thinking of offering white peace...


Never give in, never surrender. Look at my signature. The harder the conflict, the more glorious the triumph. Win, dammit! Win!
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The Nexerus said
For the course of the Civil War, maybe.


Which is going to be a CSA win, so gone forever.
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So Boerd said
Which is going to be a CSA win, so gone forever.


Didn't the CSA have all sorts of ridiculous notions of annexing the Caribbean? The CSA's Monroe Doctrine would be even stricter.
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The Nexerus said
Didn't the CSA have all sorts of ridiculous notions of annexing the Caribbean? The CSA's Monroe Doctrine would be even stricter.


And COMPLETELY unenforceable.

Hey ab, what can treaty orders be used for?
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The Nexerus said
Didn't the CSA have all sorts of ridiculous notions of annexing the Caribbean? The CSA's Monroe Doctrine would be even stricter.


Why yes, yes it did! There is every chance there will be a Monroe Doctrine with a Davis Corollary. However the European powers who get in good with the CSA may very well be able to grab a dish. Or not. I'm not playing the CSA.
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So Boerd said
And COMPLETELY unenforceable. Hey ab, what can treaty orders be used for?


Signing treaties.
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Ab said
Signing treaties.


Treaties require a treaty order from each nation involved, then, not just one for the whole treaty?
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Stats have been edited for USA/CSA. USA popular support and prestige has plummeted, CSA popular support is skyrocketing and they've quintupled their prestige -- albeit, it started out as shit so that still doesn't mean much. Troop numbers are accurate, the only substantial change is that the USA now has no regulars. The USA suffered 32k casualties, the CSA suffered half that.

USA, as I have mentioned, can still carry on the fight. The fight will be much bloodier, much tougher, and suffered with a great deal less popular goodwill; in addition to the fact that the civilised world views the United States as something of a joke after their performance in the field. And, ya'know, the sitting President of the United States and 2/3rds of the House of Representatives as well as almost the entire Senate are, officially speaking, prisoners of war.
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The Nexerus said
Treaties require a treaty order from each nation involved, then, not just one for the whole treaty?


Treaties require a treaty order from those nations that have treaty orders, and regular orders from those that don't.
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Ab said
Signing treaties.


To accomplish?
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To accomplish?


Anything. Treaties must be accompanied by an order to sign aforesaid treaty, unless in specific circumstances. Signing the Geneva Convention, for example, would not require a treaty order. When such a situation arises, I will inform you all.
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Rare said
Once 'Merica dies, will I be able to return or am I still in the waiting list?


In case you forgot to read it..
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Rare said
In case you forgot to read it..


Spots are opened in four cases:

-When a government is overthrown
-When a nation is annexed
-When a player resigns
-When a player is banned

If any of those things happen to the US or the person who plays it, you will be informed.
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Do I still need to use an order for an alliance with Denmark, or does the whole declaration of war thing cover that?
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Also, what did Thorgili do differently from RL that caused the Border States to cede? Or was it bad rolls?
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In light of the extended deadline, I have edited my orders a bit.
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Also, what did Thorgili do differently from RL that caused the Border States to cede? Or was it bad rolls?


Ab had thor do a roll to determine secession, and it had happened to be low.
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The Nexerus said
Ab had thor do a roll to determine secession, and it had happened to be low.


To be clear: I didn't have Thor do the roll :p

I rolled twice for the effects of Lincolns Call to Arms. The first roll was an 8, so like OTL it was quite successful in getting troops. The second roll was 1, so unlike OTL it caused much more widespread fury and led to the secession of all border states -- noting OTL that both Kentucky and Missouri had rival Confederate governments in exile in the South and Maryland didn't secede solely because Lincoln surrounded the state legislature with troops to ensure they didn't do anything rash.

The DoW covers the alliance, Dedonus.
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I am both excited and utterly terrified for the update.

EDIT: Thor, you better give fighting back a shot. You're still not out, and a comeback would be pretty awesome.
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I am both excited and utterly terrified for the update. EDIT: Thor, you better give fighting back a shot. You're still not out, and a comeback would be pretty awesome.


inb4 Lincoln and half the US Congress are hanged as enemy combatants.
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