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I was referring more to the whole Denmark ordeal and how badly we now know that can go, but yeah, that would be bad too.

pls ab hav mercy on r souls
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I was referring more to the whole Denmark ordeal and how badly we now know that can go, but yeah, that would be bad too. pls ab hav mercy on r souls


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Quiet. Too quiet.
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Tis the calm before the sturm.
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Haven't been able to find the historical dta for others, but I know Mexico is up to the hilt in crushing debt. France is about to invade.
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I'm pretty sure they should be invading right now. Franz Joseph's brother should be plotting the whole thing with Napoleon III. In real life, France invaded in 1861 while Franz' brother, Maximilian, crowned himself was crowned Emperor of Mexico in 1864.

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I'm pretty sure they should be invading right now. Franz Joseph's brother should be plotting the whole thing with Napoleon III. In real life, France invaded in 1861 while Franz' brother, Maximilian, crowned himself Emperor of Mexico in 1864.EDIT:


To illustrate how deep Mexico is in the hole, they are literally three months from default.
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To illustrate how deep Mexico is in the hole, they are literally three months from default.


To also illustrate further how deep the hole is, I found out what the debt was when I was France in the last game

"The majority of the debts, 69 million pesos(£1,518,000,000) , was owed to Great Britain. The French had only some 3 million pesos (£66,000,000) in claims, but the Jecker claims gave the French another 15 million pesos.(£330,000,000 ) (French total £396,000,000)

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http://www.militaryhistoryonline.com/usmexicanwar/articles/frenchinmexico.aspx
http://www.majorexchangerates.com/mxn
And a calculator.)

Now of course a little bit of conversion would have to happen as we are working in thousand here but there you go.
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That has to be modern pounds. They didn't owe more than the whole UK GDP
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That has to be modern pounds. They didn't owe more than the whole UK GDP


Probably, I thought when I did it a few months ago I converted it to past numbers but I assume I did not.
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How did you find 1861 pesos to modern pounds anyway?
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Update. The number given must be modern pesos as pesos did not exist until 1863. Therefore, just need to turn those pounds to 1861 pounds
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Would this link be useful? I don't know how reliable it is, but it's a start.
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The education rate for Great Britain seems starkly low.

The Royal Commission on the state of popular education in England, 1861 said
The whole population of England and Wales, as estimated by the Registrar-General in the summer of 1858, amounted to 19,523,103. The number of children whose names ought, at the same date, to have been on the school books, in order that all might receive some education, was 2,655,767. The number we found to be actually on the books was 2,535,462, thus leaving 120,305 children without any school instruction whatever. The proportion, therefore, of scholars in week-day schools of all kinds to the entire population was 1 in 7.7 or 12.99 per cent. Of these 321,768 are estimated to have been above the condition of such as are commonly comprehended in the expression 'poorer classes', and hence are beyond the range of our present inquiry. Deducting these from the whole number of children on the books of some school, we find that 2,213,694 children belonging to the poorer classes were, when our statistics were collected and compiled, receiving elementary instruction in day schools. Looking, therefore, at mere numbers as indicating the state of popular education in England and Wales, the proportion of children receiving instruction to the whole population is, in our opinion, nearly as high as can be reasonably expected. In Prussia, where it is compulsory, 1 in 6.27; in England and Wales it is, as we have seen, 1 in 7.7; in Holland it is 1 in 8.11; in France it is 1 in 9.0.


Ireland could be expected to be lower than that, but more populous Scotland would be higher. For ease of comparison to the stats;

Great Britain: 62%
Prussia: 85%
Netherlands: 80% (+9% soon).

And that, of course, isn't factoring into account that the United Kingdom was /the/ home of higher education in the time period.
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The education rate for Great Britain seems starkly low.Ireland could be expected to be lower than that, but more populous Scotland would be higher. For ease of comparison to the stats;Great Britain: 62%Prussia: 85%Netherlands: 80% (+9% soon).And that, of course, isn't factoring into account that the United Kingdom was /the/ home of higher education in the time period.


Unsure about this but doesn't it include your colonies education rate?
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Unsure about this but doesn't it include your colonies education rate?


If that's the case, then I'd hope the education rate including India doesn't interfere with the combat ability of the British regulars out of the Home Islands.
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Assuming education does anything to military success. It may be different here. I kind of hope so. Education should also affect more economical aspects, and maybe industry.
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While we're at it, Prussian equipment is laughably low. Prussia has the Needle gun, which is the best service rifle currently extant with the potential exception of the Norwegian Kammerlader, and the best artillery around. This is to say nothing of its logistical apparatus.
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It's pretty good in comparison to everyone else. It think it's fine the way it is. Besides, this is a game. Some of our stats have to start somewhat low, otherwise what would be the point of upgrading them? Not to mention balance is important. Plus, Prussia's already got a good army, no need to make it even better without you actually working for it.
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Post 200 for the glory of the British Empire.

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