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Hidden 10 yrs ago Post by Scarifar
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What, exactly, is wrong with them? It's best if I get specifics on the feedback, otherwise it just sounds like, "I just don't like them."
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Sorry, I'll explain further: To be honest, I don't really like your Demon Lord cards. It seems like you're trying to hard to make them the ultimate monster in your deck, but that's just a matter of taste, so if the gm says it's cool I'll roll with that. What is under no circumstances acceptable though, is having a card that lets you negate an attack AND retaliate immediately without any cost. I honestly don't know what's the deal with that.
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The Demon Lords' strength is that it redirects all battle damage to the opponent, whether it is attacking or attacked. By negating an attack that targets the Demon Lord, that means I am actually protecting your Life Points in order to take down Life Points another way. So, the attack negation is actually a cost in the case of the Demon Lords. Plus, it's not too helpful if you only have one monster, since Demon Lord LV10's most powerful ability is that it can attack all your monsters once each. There really wouldn't be any point in using it if you only had one monster. In fact, it would actually be worse than something like Magic Cylinder since you could easily use a card that negates my Demon Lord's effect or negate "Counterattack" itself. Basically there are more ways to stop it than other cards.
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blah failure D:
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I dunno, that effect seems a bit OP. What it's saying is that if it battles, its attack can go up to at least 6000 ATK. That is incredibly difficult to beat, since it exceeds even the Five Headed Dragon's attack. Plus, it gets to do piercing battle damage. Hell, we don't even know its level, although I assume it's somewhere between level 8-10. It's basically way too powerful for it to be summoned without some sort of negative effect or specific summoning condition.

Also, you could have just used yugiohcardmaker.net to make that card.
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Well i was kinda asking for postive feedback and some helpful tips and as i said i didn't know how to add stars with the program i was using but thanks for the link i guess.......
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Quite bluntly, there's not much positive feedback to give other than "This would win you every duel within like two turns." And even that isn't necessarily a compliment.

"Ridiculously overpowered" is all I can bring to the table here, I'm afraid.

EDIT: My only advice is to start from scratch, sadly.
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So maybe i wasn't clear here let me explain. i found a cool picture. I wanted to make a card. I made a card. Someone say yay you made a card. How bad is this card? I'm a baby just tell me my card sucks instead of telling me i suck at card design. Fixed the card
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That's what we did. We gave our opinions on the card, not on your ability to create a card.
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The point being you ruined my childish joy at doing something i had never done before. Also i may or may not be slightly emontial and not be acting logical :/ soz. Also figured since he has 0 protection he wasn't to OP
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Don't worry about it. Just remember that all cardmakers should follow the laws of cardmaking if they are to create cards that they want to use in Duels. Even fake Duels like ours.
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I honestly feel like "Counterattack" MIGHT be conditional enough to be fair. I mean, when you think about it, it would only be useful under very specific conditions. Honestly, the best situation for that card to be used is if your opponent controls "Red Dragon Archfiend" and you control "Superheavy Samurai Big Benkei". This means that rather than your opponent taking 500 damage and you losing your monster, it's your opponent losing their monster. Srsly, best case scenario I can think of. It's like Yusei's "Counterattack Beacon". Only time that thing worked was conditional as crap.

I don't know. I'll let UE judge and we'll see

And although the art you found is cool, Eklipse, I'm hoping you recognize that "Ultimate Warrior" is too much of an uber to be accepted. Only reason I let the "Demon Lords" in is because it takes four turns to get the big one out, and before he comes, it's not too hard to destroy the others. (Especially if you're Charak with all his attack negation power)

However, congratulations on creating your first card. Now, let's talk business. If you need help making cards, I'll be more than happy to offer my services. Simply PM me, and we'll get to work.

EDIT: Actually, when Scar made "Counterattack, I realize now that he just made the absolute best way to beat "Demon Lord LV4" before he can pull out LV6+.
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I mean no offense Eklispe but while looking at your Ultimate warrior. i thought maybe this version would be less op.



(if the opponant has a full field its max attack is 4500 blue eyes ultimate dragon style)
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Thanks Rethel :)
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@Charak: So why do you not make your cards less OP'd like this?
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Alright, Counterattack judging time.

What Rethel said is true; this thing is actually the bane of Demon Lord L4's existence, but at the same time, it allows that exact monster to attack on your opponent's turn. It's like No2 for the Demon Lords. But hey, we've all got access to this Counterattack card if it gets the green light, so you have to be just as wary of it as the rest of us :3

If only because it's just as much a threat to you as it is to us, I'd say it's okay for now. Might be one of those cards we'll have to see in action to come to a final call.
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I think I'll give it the green light, then but once we see it in action, if it requires a place on the ban-list, we'll move it appropriately.
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Rethel34 said
@Charak: So why do you not make your cards less OP'd like this?


Rethel34 said
@Charak: So why do you not make your cards less OP'd like this?


I... Don't... Know... I've just got a massive headache and for some reason that's a good thing when i make card's
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XD Maybe we need to give you a headache more often. That was legitimately one of the best attempts at making a card you've had. And you even fell more in line with OGG than usual.
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I guess I exaggerated with my reaction to your cards scarifar, I'm just getting used to all these new cards and effects, so I just discovered there are official cards that are similar to yours.

Awyway I think I'm getting the hang of making balanced cards. I just wanna make sure that you guys think these are fair

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