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Whirlwind said
Wren was standing... ah well.


I'm gonna advance the story so it doesn't matter that much anymore.

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Kimono, and everyone else for that matter, feel free to critique my posts. I love hearing about flaws in my writing.


There's a difference between constructive criticism and blatantly saying something is flawed. The former is nice. The latter isn't.

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Just for clarities sake:No one has engaged Theo in conversation during him training off-duty guardsmen yet, right?Cause in that case I could possibly start breaking away from this training to give Gnarl a report.


No, nobody has done that. Feel free to visit Gnarl in his quarters.
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Partisan said
I'm gonna advance the story so it doesn't matter that much anymore.


Sounds good
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I am going to have to back out of this RP. All the best to you all and this thing's lifespan though. Has some magnificent potential.
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I might just have to strangle Atl at one point.
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Partisan said
I might just have to strangle Atl at one point.


People have tried. Atl then uses his loincloth to strangle the failed stranglers.
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But these people aren't Joachim. Obviously.
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But these people aren't Joachim. Obviously.


Well yeah, they had honor. ... Atl very much misses home. Though there is hope the Strange Tribe finds fun fights.
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Pff, Atl was naked against a knight. Next time Atl is screwed. The title says 'semi realistic' after all.
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Pff, Atl was naked against a knight. Next time Atl is screwed. The title says 'semi realistic' after all.


Someone's never heard of Johannes Liechtenauer.
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>implying 1 slash with a sword, mace or spear doesn't outright kill you when you run around barechested
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The idea of a one-hit kill is a myth. Humans are extremely resilient; you can lose an arm in combat and still live. Superficial wounds mean little.
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>have fun being able to stand up let alone fight and defend yourself with your guts hanging out
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You do know anti-armor techniques exist in pretty much every school of fencing, right?
Because they do. For this exact scenario.
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Is Atl a professional fencer? Cause I seem to remember he is a savage.

That said, you'll have difficulties fencing against a great sword. There's no parrying in that and 1 hit will cut your guts out -- the myth that swords and armor are heavy are also lies. Moving in armor at running speeds is perfectly possible, as is getting up when falling. Same goes for swords, they're extremely light for the way they look. There's no fencing against a greatsword.
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Actually there's totally fencing against large swords. There are accounts of duelists known for overcoming enemies with extra large swords. It's not like they're terribly heavy to the point where you can't parry them.
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And yes, there is also many many many accounts of guys with heavy armor and big swords killing people that had no armor. The many outweigh the few.
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And all those accounts are far less impressive. It's easy to win when you have an advantage over your enemy. Beating someone better equipped than you is always cooler, because it's an indicator of skill, and any martial artist of note in history has done this.
That's why it's important to know Liechtenauer had techniques to beat a heavily armored opponent. That's why it's important to know Musashi would duel guys using only a wooden sword. A good martial artist should be able to defeat any opponent regardless of differences in equipment or technique. A poor martial artist relies on a piece of equipment or special technique.
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I.. w.. how does..

Please do explain how this relates to the fact that running onto a battlefield half naked will get you killed? I wonder where you get all this information, too, because I've been practicing martial arts for enough years now to know that when someone has a knife, you better try and see if you can run away first. Pointing out those few individuals that were skilled enough and devoted enough time (i.e entire lifetimes) to this stuff isn't enough to make this point valid.

Besides, Musashi dueled that 1 guy with a wooden sword that he cut from his paddle to infuriate the enemy. Not because he wanted to be cool or impressive.
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If you really want to get down to it, there are numerous armies that fought with little to no armor. Greeks, Romans, a lot of barbarian tribes from around that time, off the top of my head.
Even after heavy armor was developed, the poorest foot soldiers had little in the way of protection besides what they could loot, sometimes nothing at all.

Also, Musashi defeated an expert martial artist with a wooden sword. Regardless of his intention, the fact that he used a wooden substitute MAKES it impressive. It's indicative of his skill as a high caliber martial artist.
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If you really want to get down to it, there are numerous armies that fought with little to no armor. Greeks, Romans, a lot of barbarian tribes from around that time, off the top of my head.


Yes. Using light armor against light(er) armored troops =/= using light armor vs heavily plated knights with giant swords. Comparing sheep to cows.

IncredibleBee said Even after heavy armor was developed, the poorest foot soldiers had little in the way of protection besides what they could loot, sometimes nothing at all.


Guess who suffered most of the deaths in these armies.



To kill a plate armored soldier you had to use either blunt weaponry or survive long enough to get lucky and be able to knock/pull him down and stab him where it hurt. Hitting the joints of their armor was practically the hardest thing ever and was mostly dependant on luck in actual combat.

IncredibleBee said Also, Musashi defeated an expert martial artist with a wooden sword. Regardless of his intention, the fact that he used a wooden substitute MAKES it impressive. It's indicative of his skill as a high caliber martial artist.


Musashi knew he wasn't going to be able to defeat him conventionally, so he arrived late + fought using a wooden sword fashioned from a paddle. He infuriated his enemy. It had nothing to do with light armor vs. plate armor which we are discussing. IDK how this relates to what we are discussing. Yes it is impressive. It doesn't make him a better swordsman though, it simply shows he understood how combat works.
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