Bearsworth said
Oh, I have no doubts about how hard it would be. Shax wouldn't be getting through a fight like that without some serious hurt, but I'll still tell you that you shouldn't underestimate her. I don't care how big and old this Dragon is, Shax can hurt it, and if she can hurt it, she can kill it.It doesn't matter if it's more NPC than player. It doesn't matter how powerful it is. A creature as big as that, and as old as that, has a weak point. If it's as big as a town, then I'm sure it'll have a lot of fun trying to pinpoint Shax when she's sprinting around, jumping up its limbs, clinging on like something from Shadow of the Colossus. It'd be a truly epic fight, but I am confident in both Shax and my own ability to roleplay.

How about we just don't fight with the dragon. I think, in general, things are a little too tense. Bearsworth, I understand Shax is a fighter by nature, but you're screwing yourself over by making her so. The people are almost completely divided because of the spat between she and Thomas. You MUST find a reason for her to relax or else she WILL get left out. that's the nature of survival. Likewise, The dragon will be killing no one without their consent. They can have fighting personalities or whatever, but EVERYONE PLEASE QUIT FIGHTING EACH OTHER AND DIVIDING THE CHARATERS. It makes it hard for those of us who are trying to keep them together.

I already understand that I need a reason for her to calm down a little, the problem is obviously finding that reason. I know her best so I should know what that reason would be, but it's also BECAUSE I know her so well that I have no idea what reason would get her to calm down and work alongside others. I mean, she's so confident in her own abilities and so in love with fighting things she would happily take on a town-sized Dragon for no other reason than to have a good, challenging fight. By nature she isn't just a fighter, she's a loner, a survivor, and it's been that way since she was barely capable of walking. Buddying up with a bunch of others for 'survival' makes no sense to her since, well, she'd been 'surviving' alone in a realm far more hostile than this one for most of her life.

Honestly, if anyone comes up with a reason I'm all ears, but so far I've had no ideas that would work. Well... Other than one, but it would require a team effort.

Bearsworth said
I already understand that I need a reason for her to calm down a little, the problem is obviously finding that reason. I know her best so I should know what that reason would be, but it's also BECAUSE I know her so well that I have no idea what reason would get her to calm down and work alongside others. I mean, she's so confident in her own abilities and so in love with fighting things she would happily take on a town-sized Dragon for no other reason than to have a good, challenging fight. By nature she isn't just a fighter, she's a loner, a survivor, and it's been that way since she was barely capable of walking. Buddying up with a bunch of others for 'survival' makes no sense to her since, well, she'd been 'surviving' alone in a realm far more hostile than this one for most of her life.Honestly, if anyone comes up with a reason I'm all ears, but so far I've had no ideas that would work. Well... Other than one, but it would require a team effort.

I just don't want you to be offended if that loner, fighter personality gets her into trouble. and please, please, please don't have her fight the dragon. she's caused enough damage to herself, don't you think? I'm fairly certain just about every character having been involved with her so far is not interested. I'm not saying quit playing her, because she is interesting, but I might ask if you could perhaps tone her down a bit. I know I had to tone Zmerr down. I've used him for other RPs. He's by nature, a total ass. But in order to make this gel, we need everyone to be at least a little cooperative because otherwise, someone's going to get killed or left out. That's never fun.

No....
That's actually a good idea.

Head towards the mountain- say a roar caught her ear, and she wanted to see what it was. Then you could fight EmFell, who would beat you but not kill you, and then you can listen to reason. Good, yeah? You get beaten for the first time ever, and EmFell prevents another race from going extinct because they wouldn't change their ways.

Well after her getting isolated as I kbow she will if she cant relax before that bit
its bound to force people to think aboit their ways amd get open to other ideas in order to get rid of the lonely stuff
plus I know that soneone like her gets bored to a point that she needs to thibk that if people acoid her that she cant fi g ht for pleasurr. She will have to het along in order not to het bored off her ass

but I do have to say. Shax seemed quite OP if she were to be like. If one can hurt it one can kill it
on thay standard she can kill the goddess seras who cant be killed

WilsonTurner said
No....That's actually a good idea.Head towards the mountain- say a roar caught her ear, and she wanted to see what it was. Then you could fight EmFell, who would beat you but not kill you, and then you can listen to reason. Good, yeah? You get beaten for the first time ever, and EmFell prevents another race from going extinct because they wouldn't change their ways.

Problem: Shax fights to the death. If she gets beaten, she expects to be dead, if she's not dead, she'll keep fighting until she is or her enemy is. Or the enemy runs away. Being 'beaten' won't make her listen to reason, it'll make one of them dead. (Pretty sure Shax doesn't have the same concept of 'reason' as most do anyway.)

Zmerr said
I just don't want you to be offended if that loner, fighter personality gets her into trouble. and please, please, don't have her fight the dragon. she's caused enough damage to herself, don't you think? I'm fairly certain just about every character having been involved with her so far is not interested. I'm not saying quit playing her, because she interesting, but I might ask if you could perhaps tone her down a bit. I know I had to tone Zmerr down. I've used him for other RPs. He's by nature, a total ass. But in order to make this gel, we need everyone to be at least a little cooperative because otherwise, someone's going to get killed or left out. That's never fun.

It'd be damn great if I could tone her down, but from what she's shown so far I don't know how it's possible. She's already made it clear to them that she'll fight anyone and anything just because they're there, so toning it down from that without redacting everything she's done so far doesn't seem possible.

Drake Baku said
Well after her getting isolated as I kbow she will if she cant relax before that bitits bound to force people to think aboit their ways amd get open to other ideas in order to get rid of the lonely stuffplus I know that soneone like her gets bored to a point that she needs to thibk that if people acoid her that she cant fi g ht for pleasurr. She will have to het along in order not to het bored off her assbut I do have to say. Shax seemed quite OP if she were to be like. If one can hurt it one can kill iton thay standard she can kill the goddess seras who cant be killed

She's been doing what she does for a long, long time and still isn't bored of it. Why would she need to make friends to have fun? She could just as easily fight the 'friends' for her pleasure instead of telling jokes.

Also, didn't Zmerr say that every character CAN die? Including your 'goddess'? Because I mean, she isn't actually a goddess anymore, she's banished.

Then tone her down, at least where if she gets beaten, she'll not try to kill them again. It'd be a sign of even greater skill to knock one unconscious, rather than just outright kill them.

To make a character that will fight everyone to the death is NOT a good character for a group roleplay. Think about your character personalities before you make them, perhaps?

Like I said before, I do have an idea of my own, it'd just require teamwork. It would be something along the lines of someone knowing that Demons consider deals to be pretty freakin' important, so if a Demon makes a deal, they're going to keep their end of it. (On the other hand, if the other party breaks the deal, they're screwed because that Demon is gonna come and get them no matter what.)

What the idea boils down to is Shax being trapped inside some form of magical prison, or barrier, or something of the sort by a combined effort. While she could break it and free herself if given some time, they could do something that would make the prison kill her before she could free herself, so to get free she has to make a deal.

Might be a little more complicated and such, but really it's the only way I see her as calming down enough to be with the group without breaking character.

Would being stuck underneath a giant clawed foot do the same? Too heavy to lift, nearly to point of just crushing her. Really, it'd be an excellent way of forcing a deal or die.

It wouldn't have the same effect, really. At least with that she'd die in combat, which to her is fine.

Unless the owner of the foot in question threatens to dig a hole, toss her in it, and then slowly fill it with his fire, to either slowly burn her up, or suffocate her?

Threatening to burn an Infernus Demon to death is like threatening to drown a mermaid.

I could set up wards agenst her, but I still would like my ploy at deplomisy works... I think I can forse it with a powerfull enough glyph, but I cant just make it hapen... it takes a ton of time and I'd like that to evedence itself in the rp by YOU ALL POSTING A BUNCH!

Ah, but you see, fire takes away oxygen. Even if fire does not burn, the lack of oxygen would certainly do damage. Even more so if it's liquid fire- a dragon eats fatty food, and a good portion of the fats are diverted to another belly, where certain chemicals are mixed with it. When mixed with oxygen, it lights up like a christmas tree. A large enough dragon could literally drown someone in it. A large enough dragon could also kill someone with its roar alone, having large enough lungs to tear apart the ears, and farther in.

WilsonTurner said
No....That's actually a good idea.Head towards the mountain- say a roar caught her ear, and she wanted to see what it was. Then you could fight EmFell, who would beat you but not kill you, and then you can listen to reason. Good, yeah? You get beaten for the first time ever, and EmFell prevents another race from going extinct because they wouldn't change their ways.

I like this idea

Bearsworth said
Problem: Shax fights to the death. If she gets beaten, she expects to be dead, if she's not dead, she'll keep fighting until she is or her enemy is. Or the enemy runs away. Being 'beaten' won't make her listen to reason, it'll make one of them dead. (Pretty sure Shax doesn't have the same concept of 'reason' as most do anyway.)It'd be damn great if I could tone her down, but from what she's shown so far I don't know how it's possible. She's already made it clear to them that she'll fight anyone and anything just because they're there, so toning it down from that without redacting everything she's done so far doesn't seem possible.She's been doing what she does for a long, long time and still isn't bored of it. Why would she need to make friends to have fun? She could just as easily fight the 'friends' for her pleasure instead of telling jokes.Also, didn't Zmerr say that every character CAN die? Including your 'goddess'? Because I mean, she isn't actually a goddess anymore, she's banished.

At this point, I'm not concerned about how she's shown herself. The player can make the character be what they want it to be.

Bearsworth said
Threatening to burn an Infernus Demon to death is like threatening to drown a mermaid.

Use water

While a small enough, fireproof, super strong Demon could sneak up to said Dragon, climb up to its mouth and make her way through its body until she reaches something vital to destroy. Like its heart.

But honestly, I dislike the dragon method.

That aside, if this dragon is so massive and powerful that is could literally demolish towns just by landing on them, why exactly did humans win this 'war'? For that matter, what do any of the player characters matter if they could all get erased by this behemoth who could do a much better job of liberating the world alone than if they all teamed up without him?

A dragon would be shot out of the sky almost instantly. Zmerr would survive far, far longer than EmFell. He feels he is too old to make the flight across the seas, and has been like so for some time, before the humans started genocide against all non-humans.

Do you not know the kinds of weapons we have now?
A giant dragon, with the technology of this roleplay, would have holes punched through it from railguns, missiles, lasers, and probably plasma cannons.

Guys, relax. The humans took over by number and technology. Everything they had was more to date than the non-humans. Plus, with the chips, they're all controlled and can't say no. So literally every human fought in the war. I would imagine that some of the non-humans ran or decided not to fight. They were also too different and a racial gap prevented them from working together until they realized they were sorely outnumbered that way. Unfortunately, it was too late for them.

All I say now is
I already said seras cant be killed
she can but she comes back
its part of her punishment. So no she cant be killed of you thi n k of it like that

From this point on I am stepping out from this conversation
I admit nit having read all ooc posts so I might have missed something
but since we are the players and control the chars. I see no reason why you cant break char for a little
I did it with blakes Intro as well
so this is beginning to sound like you made a god modding player killer char amd refuse to let go of it.

zmerr pm me if this gets resolved. Cause I wont read this ooc till it is
as said if I missed something and it had already been resolved. Pm me as well with of possible an word of how its been resolved and I will make an apology for this post

Drake Baku said
All I say now isI already said seras cant be killedshe can but she comes backits part of her punishment. So no she cant be killed of you thi n k of it like thatFrom this point on I am stepping out from this conversationI admit nit having read all ooc posts so I might have missed somethingbut since we are the players and control the chars. I see no reason why you cant break char for a littleI did it with blakes Intro as wellso this is beginning to sound like you made a god modding player killer char amd refuse to let go of it.zmerr pm me if this gets resolved. Cause I wont read this ooc till it isas said if I missed something and it had already been resolved. Pm me as well with of possible an word of how its been resolved and I will make an apology for this post

I'm hoping things will come together soon. It's just a matter of communicating and perhaps a little compromise. Sometimes, that's how these things go.