is my sheet alright? Exsept mabey for a couple of the movesets needing to be expanded?

I feel like you can answer your own question if you can answer "Did you change what I mentioned". Seriously, I'm starting to get over-dependent vibes from you, which isn't that cool because we don't like, know each other or anything. Maybe it's just me, but you can be autonomous when it comes to improving your CS, and such, as long as it doesn't become OP or whatever.

I have changed everything, thats all.

Honestly, as someone who's run a bunch of rps and done sheet-checking, this is less annoying than the people who don't ask. Anyways, guessing at some point we should stop posting here and actually post in the OOC. Edit: HOLY CRAP SEVEN DIFFERENT MEGAS?

Hm. Go figure. Seven. Just covering my bases. Darkdramon might rarely show up, and the others may not either, so... yeah, just putting all of the possibilities out. EDIT: Also sorry, I had a semi-rough day, after suspecting for a few hours that I had been a victim of fraud, but it cleared up and it was nothing bad.

Dude, you don't exactly see V-mon being able to access UlforceV-dramon, you feel me? That's a LOT of options to easily abuse so that Charlotte can be in any fight without disadvantage. Pretty sure you only need two Knight forms, max. And probably not the one with the attack labeled 'Invincible Sword', given the dressing-down you gave Xander for having a move titled 'God Mode'. Just to be fair.

I think that was just Mr trying to make a move that is less ridicules then it is. Aka flipping the table is silly.

Hm... Looking over Tob's new sheet, I can understand the reason for most of those Megas. As he has a regular Mega and an "unstabilized" Mega as a kind of Dark Digivolution version. Or at least, that's what I get out of it. So two for the standard Mega and two for Royal Knight (Gallantmon and ChaosGallantmon). However, I do feel like only one Ascended Knight form is necessary. If this were a Digimon that was supposed to be the leader of the Knights, I wouldn't mind him having a second Ascension that's more powerful than the first. In this case, though, I would personally prefer it if there was either Gallantmon Crimson Mode or MedievalGallantmon, but not both. So basically, while there would be six Megas at that point, the reason for it would be that only three tiers just like Omnimon, but with two on the tier. But one of each Mega form would be her "True" form for that line. The others are kind of...corrupted versions of Digivolution akin to SkullGreymon in the Adventure series? Where they technically exist and can potentially happen, but it's not the form they want to take. Like how the main group in Adventure had Greymon Digivolve to SkullGreymon. They never wanted to use it again, and ever since, only used MetalGreymon. Do I have that right, Tob? Is that more or less what you're going for? If so, I would be okay with this. I've used a similar system in the past (where my Agumon character could do a branch Digivolution into either the Greymon or GeoGreymon line). If not...well, I would agree with RBY. Being able to freely use them with few disadvantages would be a bit of overkill, even in the endgame. (Out of personal preference, I think that Megidramon is a good idea. It just really depends on how it's implemented into the story when it comes.)

To add to Digizel's argument, maybe you should have just one ascended knight form and instead of ChaosGallantmon being a descended knight form make Megidramon his descended knight form. Just a suggestion but I feel it may help...

> Dude, you don't exactly see V-mon being able to access UlforceV-dramon, you feel me? That's a LOT of options to easily abuse so that Charlotte can be in any fight without disadvantage. Pretty sure you only need two Knight forms, max. And probably not the one with the attack labeled 'Invincible Sword', given the dressing-down you gave Xander for having a move titled 'God Mode'. Just to be fair. Okay, that makes sense. I'll reword it, just couldn't think of a different name for the attack at the time. (Now renamed Intensity Slash) And other than Gallantmon and maybe MedievalDukemon, the others will only appear once max, I just didn't want to not have defined sheets for them if the narrative called for a situation where it would happen, so that it wouldn't feel like I was making it up. I will not be rotating between all of them. You have my word. > I think that was just Mr trying to make a move that is less ridicules then it is. Aka flipping the table is silly. I do understand that, but it is a rather effective surprise attack. And I was only saying "Why not use at like, one Technique that Bandai gives you?" And I get it, they're kind of a mouthful, but if you want a suggestion of a light attack, rename Fire! Lightning! Earthquake! Father! to Heaven's Punishment and make it your light attack. If you want. > Hm... Looking over Tob's new sheet, I can understand the reason for most of those Megas. As he has a regular Mega and an "unstabilized" Mega as a kind of Dark Digivolution version. Or at least, that's what I get out of it. So two for the standard Mega and two for Royal Knight (Gallantmon and ChaosGallantmon). However, I do feel like only one Ascended Knight form is necessary. If this were a Digimon that was supposed to be the leader of the Knights, I wouldn't mind him having a second Ascension that's more powerful than the first. In this case, though, I would personally prefer it if there was either Gallantmon Crimson Mode or MedievalGallantmon, but not both. > > So basically, while there would be six Megas at that point, the reason for it would be that only three tiers just like Omnimon, but with two on the tier. But one of each Mega form would be her "True" form for that line. The others are kind of...corrupted versions of Digivolution akin to SkullGreymon in the Adventure series? Where they technically exist and can potentially happen, but it's not the form they want to take. Like how the main group in Adventure had Greymon Digivolve to SkullGreymon. They never wanted to use it again, and ever since, only used MetalGreymon. Do I have that right, Tob? Is that more or less what you're going for? If so, I would be okay with this. I've used a similar system in the past (where my Agumon character could do a branch Digivolution into either the Greymon or GeoGreymon line). If not...well, I would agree with RBY. Being able to freely use them with few disadvantages would be a bit of overkill, even in the endgame. > > (Out of personal preference, I think that Megidramon is a good idea. It just really depends on how it's implemented into the story when it comes.) Sort of, but not exactly. More along the lines of your middle paragraph, and Crimson Mode and MidevalDukemon are parallel, not one over the other. I won't be switching freely between them by any means. Yeah, they _can_ happen, but they're by no means intentional. It's just the instability of Guilmon make all of those possibilities. > To add to Digizel's argument, maybe you should have just one ascended knight form and instead of ChaosGallantmon being a descended knight form make Megidramon his descended knight form. Just a suggestion but I feel it may help... Well, that would make sense, but I can't really find a way to justify Megidramon being in any way in any kind of control, hers or anyone else's. It's just there because that's what _could_ happen, but only as a "we effed up" type of situation. Actually, to be honest, two of the forms, Megidramon included, are "Things went bad and now the world is ending" scenarios, but from different angles. If it makes anyone feel better, I could even roll a die or a couple of dice, and use that to see if I even get one other than Gallantmon, then roll again to see which. Adjusted so it's not OP for the situation, that is.

> Sort of, but not exactly. More along the lines of your middle paragraph, and Crimson Mode and MidevalDukemon are parallel, not one over the other. I won't be switching freely between them by any means. > > Yeah, they can happen, but they're by no means intentional. It's just the instability of Guilmon make all of those possibilities. In that case, I can understand having the six Megas I described (so long as you do keep to the word of using most of them only once in the RP and only at special plot sections, but I don't think having MedievalGallantmon and Gallantmon Crimson Mode is necessary. They are two different forms on the same level that serve no other practical purpose than simply giving him two different arsenals to battle with. Although now that I think about it, I'm not sure having a corrupted Ultimate is for the best either. I mean...if you get a corrupted Ultimate and then a corrupted Mega...you've fallen into a very predictable character pattern. You get to the point where, even if we didn't know about the corrupted Knight form, everybody would just be waiting for it to inevitably happen. Twice is fine, but three times might be a bit excessive. > Well, that would make sense, but I can't really find a way to justify Megidramon being in any way in any kind of control, hers or anyone else's. It's just there because that's what could happen, but only as a "we effed up" type of situation. Actually, to be honest, two of the forms, Megidramon included, are "Things went bad and now the world is ending" scenarios, but from different angles. And going back to what Fell says...I don't think a corrupted Digivolution is supposed to be in control that much in the first place. In fact, it might actually ADD to the validity and intrigue of the character if she was always, like...a potential hazard bomb. Like if there was a heavy risk to consider even letting her Digivolve in the first place. It could add some very strong moral arguments to be had in character. If SkullGreymon (who I assume is your other "world ending" scenario Digimon, given the lack of control) and Megidramon were your only corrupted Digivolutions )unless you wanted to do the same thing with one of your Mega levels, make them completely out of control like the other two)...I think it might make for a stronger character overall. But then again, you could also still keep ChaosGallantmon. I mean...I just envisioned a time where she Digivolves into that form, which could be stronger than all of the other Knights at the time but is a dark knight. One who perhaps uses her strength once to help, but then thinks the others weak when they call her methods into question and believes that it would be better for her tamer if she was separated from them. Of course, as her energy eventually runs out and she reverts, the personality returns to normal. If you wanted to something like that, where it could add something special rather than simply "he fights dirty now," I feel like that form could be justified as well.

I really do have to agree with Digizel - if nothing else, I don't think you need Chaosgallantmon and Megidramon/Crimson Mode and MedievelGallantmon. If there can be more, the ideas on how to treat the dark Megas also seem very sound and add validity to the fact that Guilmon's instability is a very bad thing. (Though not sure about her being the strongest. Not sure when Omnimon and Alphamon will show up after all, unless Chaosgallantmon appears before Gallantmon)

It's not necessarily a "predictable pattern", because even _where_ the Digimon is could become a factor. That is sort of what I'm getting at- there is a risk to Guilmon even existing. SkullGreymon is not the other "Bad End" as you have said. The other bad end is a Mega. ChaosGallantmon is basically if there's an attempt to Digivolve to Knight Form while Berserk. And no, that's not what I said. They just have different definitions of what fair is, in her own mind, and it may differ from what, say Omnimon may consider fair, but it's not like they're actively fighting dirty. Take a look at the control method. Oops! I realized I forgot to put something there. Thought I did. I'll add it now, because it needs saying.

> I really do have to agree with Digizel - if nothing else, I don't think you need Chaosgallantmon and Megidramon/Crimson Mode and MedievelGallantmon. If there can be more, the ideas on how to treat the dark Megas also seem very sound and add validity to the fact that Guilmon's instability is a very bad thing. > > (Though not sure about her being the strongest. Not sure when Omnimon and Alphamon will show up after all, unless Chaosgallantmon appears before Gallantmon) Yes, that is my point, that Guilmon's instability is very dangerous for everyone involved, even her. She's not close to the strongest, especially because she lacks the intelligence to use her power most effectively, and isn't likely to stop and consult with Charolette. Basically, to put it in RPG Terms, she has moderate agility, and average/high attack, but low defenses and intellect/charisma related stats, despite higher HP.

...so, to check: Chaosgallantmon is not a dark digivolution but merely a 'less fair' one, and Skullgreymon who is a walking nuclear missile launcher is not a dark digivolution. Only Megidramon and...uh, which Mega? You kinda picked two Virus-types, after all and both seem equally dangerous. But yeah, it all adds up to Guilmon being inherently dangerous?

Nah, ChaosGallantmon and the others do equate to Dark Digivolutions, but they're not all world enders. Megidramon is both a Dark Digivolution and a World End Scenario. Also MetalGreymon's Giga Blaster, and my extension whatever RizeGreymon's strongest gun attack is, are touted to be nuclear explosion equivalents. So either they're all not at that power, or they're all equally devastating. Either way, they're probably the same power, just not actual nukes. Indeed. It's not like I'd have all that going on without a narrative reason and people being aware of it.

....ok, I need to confirm: what are the dark digivolutions, which ones lack control, and which ones are the likely world-enders?

Open to interpretation (Confirmed Megidramon, ChaosGallantmon, SkullGreymon), all of them aside from MasterTyrannomon and MedievalDukemon, both are upper level Megas but I can't confirm the second other than Megidramon. And technically one can only potentially break everything, and probably won't. Unlessthere'sanalternateendingmade.

....I'm gonna re-quote things Digizel already said because I can add nothing that wasn't already said: >Although now that I think about it, I'm not sure having a corrupted Ultimate is for the best either. I mean...if you get a corrupted Ultimate and then a corrupted Mega...you've fallen into a very predictable character pattern. You get to the point where, even if we didn't know about the corrupted Knight form, everybody would just be waiting for it to inevitably happen. Twice is fine, but three times might be a bit excessive. >I don't think a corrupted Digivolution is supposed to be in control that much in the first place. In fact, it might actually ADD to the validity and intrigue of the character if she was always, like...a potential hazard bomb. Like if there was a heavy risk to consider even letting her Digivolve in the first place.

>In fact, it might actually ADD to the validity and intrigue of the character if she was always, like...a potential hazard bomb. Like if there was a heavy risk to consider even letting her Digivolve in the first place.