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It would help Control Michael. Michael could get a bit Destructy if he sees anything he thinks is evil.
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It would help Control Michael. Michael could get a bit Destructy if he sees anything he thinks is evil.
Exactly. The Archangel Michael is almost as powerful as Gilgamesh too.
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Wait till the OOC thread is up, people. You are asking me to approve CS of a non-existing thread.
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So if I was to apply for the Rider class would I have to reserve a spot and then wait until you designate who becomes a magical girl?
I'm not going to designate anyone. Six Servant roles, two of them are Magical Girl Servant roles, regardless of Class. Simple.
well, since it's the Holy Grail we're talking about, which is intelligent AND all-powerful....
An artificial Holy Grail created by the Incubators, mind you. Kyubey's not stupid.
Well if you got 7 non magical girls yous have to designate 2 of 7. I was simply wondering whether you were deciding now or not
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Wait till the OOC thread is up, people. You are asking me to approve CS of a non-existing thread.
I know. But still. Q.Q
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It would help Control Michael. Michael could get a bit Destructy if he sees anything he thinks is evil.
Exactly. The Archangel Michael is almost as powerful as Gilgamesh too.
In Nasu mechanics, probably not. Gilgamesh can defeat earth mother goddesses which are leagues above regular divine spirits.
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In Nasu mechanics, probably not. Gilgamesh can defeat earth mother goddesses which are leagues above regular divine spirits.
Speaking of which, isn't it true that the Holy Grail can't summon divine spirits like Michael? Kyubey's Holy Grail, despite being artificial, is manufactured after the design of the destroyed Holy Grail, so the rules are almost the same.
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In Nasu mechanics, probably not. Gilgamesh can defeat earth mother goddesses which are leagues above regular divine spirits.
Speaking of which, isn't it true that the Holy Grail can't summon divine spirits like Michael? Kyubey's Holy Grail, despite being artificial, is manufactured after the design of the destroyed Holy Grail, so the rules are almost the same.
Yep. Summoning fully divine things I'd way out of scope for the grail. If it could then it could just grant a wish without the need for the war itself.
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Yep. Summoning fully divine things I'd way out of scope for the grail. If it could then it could just grant a wish without the need for the war itself.
Yeah, but that would still be one wish, no matter how miraculous the one wish is, so they would have to fight it out anyway. One wish to rule them all. One wish to make them fight each other. Hah... Anyway, sorry that I keep on stalling the OOC thread. It should be up by latest this week. I just wanted to make sure everything is perfect, especially the complex lore that I'm trying to manipulate.
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I got into a debate on Whether Michael was a Divine Spirit or not. He apparently is low enough that he doesn't qualify.
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Yep. Summoning fully divine things I'd way out of scope for the grail. If it could then it could just grant a wish without the need for the war itself.
Yeah, but that would still be one wish, no matter how miraculous the one wish is, so they would have to fight it out anyway. Anyway, sorry that I keep on stalling the OOC thread. It should be up by latest this week. I just wanted to make sure everything is perfect, especially the complex lore that I'm trying to manipulate.
Well the entire reason for the war is to kill the servants to give the grail energy to grant the wish but if it had the capacity to summon a divine spirit even in a class container it should probably be capable of granting wishes without rituals like the war itself.
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Yep. Summoning fully divine things I'd way out of scope for the grail. If it could then it could just grant a wish without the need for the war itself.
Yeah, but that would still be one wish, no matter how miraculous the one wish is, so they would have to fight it out anyway. Anyway, sorry that I keep on stalling the OOC thread. It should be up by latest this week. I just wanted to make sure everything is perfect, especially the complex lore that I'm trying to manipulate.
Well the entire reason for the war is to kill the servants to give the grail energy to grant the wish but if it had the capacity to summon a divine spirit even in a class container it should probably be capable of granting wishes without rituals like the war itself.
The Moon Cell grail summoned Buddha. Your argument is invalid.
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Yep. Summoning fully divine things I'd way out of scope for the grail. If it could then it could just grant a wish without the need for the war itself.
Yeah, but that would still be one wish, no matter how miraculous the one wish is, so they would have to fight it out anyway. Anyway, sorry that I keep on stalling the OOC thread. It should be up by latest this week. I just wanted to make sure everything is perfect, especially the complex lore that I'm trying to manipulate.
Well the entire reason for the war is to kill the servants to give the grail energy to grant the wish but if it had the capacity to summon a divine spirit even in a class container it should probably be capable of granting wishes without rituals like the war itself.
The Moon Cell grail summoned Buddha. Your argument is invalid.
Oh gee the guy that said he was entirely human and told everyone not to see him as a deity? Totally a divine spirit. Enlightened beings by the way can't be summoned either since they've reached Akasha aside from Boddhisatvas who stay behind to help humans, like Siddhartha Gautama.
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How many Freaking times have I debated with someone that Michael is not a Divine Spirit? Besides, I have a loophole: Kirei is a "Priest." Maybe he performed some Ritual to make Michael appear, and bound Michael to the Fake Grail.
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Oh God, I just had the best idea for a joke CS, but it may be over some peoples heads. It's a Ghandi, whose NP is just raining down Nukes upon thine Opponents! (Civilization Joke.)
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How many Freaking times have I debated with someone that Michael is not a Divine Spirit? Besides, I have a loophole: Kirei is a "Priest." Maybe he performed some Ritual to make Michael appear, and bound Michael to the Fake Grail.
Except Kirei is dead in the RP's timeline, or rather, a Heroic Spirit keeping watch.
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How many Freaking times have I debated with someone that Michael is not a Divine Spirit? Besides, I have a loophole: Kirei is a "Priest." Maybe he performed some Ritual to make Michael appear, and bound Michael to the Fake Grail.
Except Kirei is dead in the RP's timeline, or rather, a Heroic Spirit keeping watch.
He could have bound Michael to him much earlier in life, and then when the Grail was created, he bound Michael to the Grail.
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He could have bound Michael to him much earlier in life, and then when the Grail was created, he bound Michael to the Grail.
If he were to do something so convoluted, it would have to be a good reason - like using Michael as a backup plan in case something goes wrong with the new Kyubey system.
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Oh yes and can I only have a mage from a traditional magus family? Could I have someone practicing Taiji, aka martial arts to the maximum level etc? AKA Someone not of a magus family but within the Tmoon universe like Oni blood or Espers.
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Oh yes and can I only have a mage from a traditional magus family? Could I have someone practicing Taiji, aka martial arts to the maximum level etc? AKA Someone not of a magus family but within the Tmoon universe like Oni blood or Espers.
So... is your Master from a magus family or a non-magus family? lol...
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