[OOC] Time's are Changing - Steampunk NRP set in the 1800s (Page 12)

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So long as it is only rhetoric, and you don't actually plan on rolling over the ROC in a month. Saying things like that scares the crap outta people, man! :P

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Wow... the monarchs are going to have a busy schedule with just turning down diplomats :P
In this timeperiod the European monarchs didnt meet personally with the diplomats of other countries anymore, they had a minister of foreign affairs for that. The only way to talk to a monarch as a foreigner was to be invited by them. Some countries were even so strict with this rule that the palace guards were ordered to shoot to kill... Ever fooled around at Buckingham Palace? Then you know what I am talking about. 

Suggesting that the monarch would make time for you was rather rediculous because it would mean that you could make demands of a monarch and could get you kicled out of the country in Russia or Austria. Monarchs would only talk about diplomacy with their ministers, not the foreign diplomat. The only exception to this rule was if another monarch/president came to the country on a state visit which was agreed upon before hand by the hosting monarch.

That being said, this is ofcourse not a simulation of the 19th century, last time I checked we didnt have mechs in that century. But I just thought that it might add abit more realism if the monarchs are actually treated as such and not as a boring state dignitary.@Zoldyck

Well, this is mostly how it goes for both nations, though more so in the case of Kzechverin.

Eisenkreis is surprisingly the easier of the two nations to actually get in touch with, and get to discussions. The Hegemon's Court handles most of the affairs that Marianna herself can't be bothered with, and if something is pressing, or involves the entirety of the country, she becomes involved directly. That's her style of things though, preferring to keep her hands on the issue and make it seen that the crown is aware and doing something about it. Foreign dignitaries aren't much of an issue for her, though with her past and all, I imagine there's an air of tension around her whenever someone from beyond the borders involved. That and I think Bavaria is still a little pissy about her retiring a diplomat early =P

Kzechverin on the other hand, is a nightmare of feudal bureaucracy and nobility, with diplomats often being bogged down in the particulars of who and why, sometimes spending months until they even see the person they needed to see. This is the interesting thing with the Noble Republic, in that while it is a democratic system, it is one in which only the nobility is in power, and everyone thinks they are important and need to be heard. Each of the twelve princes has their own court of dignitaries and administrators, shifting off to the other provinces of the nation or in other lands, and each of these administrators is assigned to particulars that only they are allowed to deal with. About the only way anyone gets a word in edgewise is if Csilla becomes involved, which almost never happens, or if Eisenkreis sends word ahead.

Suppose it's really more of the ruling style of the two monarchs, where Marianna prefers to retain direct control over everything and Csilla is pretty much what you would expect of a princess.

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- Territories of the Republic -
Hebei Province
Shanxi Province
Shaanxi Province
Gansu Province
Sinkiang Province
Qinghai Province
Xikang Province
Yunnan Province
Guangxi Province
Hainan Special Governmental Region
Guangdong Province
Fujian Province
Jiangxi Province
Hunan Province
Guizhou Province
Sichuan Province
Hupei Province
Henan Province
Anhui Province
Nanjing Special Governmental Region
Jiangsi Province
Shandong Province
Tibet Autonomous Region

- Claimed by the Republic of China -
Taiwan Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Suiyuan Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Chahar Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Outer Mongol Region (administered by the Russian Empire)
Inner Mongol Region (administered by the Russian Empire)
Rehe Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Xing'an Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Liaobei Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Heilongjiang Province (administered by the Russian Empire and the Empire of Japan)
Hejiang Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Songjiang Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Liaoning Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Andong Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Jilin Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Nenjiang Province (administered by the Empire of Japan)
Tuva Province (administered by the Russian Empire)
The Autonomous Region of Dai Viet (administered by Dai Nam)


The Republic is led by the President of China, who is elected every eight years by a general election of the population of China. The President of China, however, has comparatively little power compared to the Chinese First Minister, who is the leader of the largest party of the Chamber of Deputies. The Chinese Chamber of Deputies incorporates universal suffrage and divides the lands of China into constituencies, similar to the British system in the House of Commons. Each electoral district elects a representative (called a Deputy of the Chamber, unimaginatively, and acronymed as DofC) who is then sent to Nanjing to the parliamentary building. There are several major parties in the Chamber currently - the largest and thusly the party currently in power is the Reform Party, led by Liu Xan-Tseng. The new Republic is vulnerable to breakaway regions, however, and struggles to maintain republican control over areas such as the Yunnan and the Guangxi, and the Republic is still deeply divided between supporters of the new republican regime and the Tseng government, and those who desire a return to Imperial government, led by the reactionary Prince Li Jun-meng and the Chinese Imperial Party in the Chamber of Deputies. For now, the government of the Republic seems stable, though there are several threats of breakaway warlords which Tseng must deal with to consolidate republican authority over all of China.
The Chinese political system is notable due to its lack of gender segregation. This was a move by Tseng in order to gain a wider base of support across the country and gives it, at least to Tseng, a more legitimate government in the eyes of the people, particularly compared to the tyrannical imperial Qing that preceded the Republic. This, understandably, has made him enemies within the imperialist right wing, whilst the more moderate elements of Chinese politics both praise his judgement but also express concern with giving women the vote, as almost no other nation in the world has adopted such a move. In truth, this was a remnant of Tseng's time in Eisenkreis-Kzechverin and his understanding of the attitudes there, and is more of a social experiment to see if it can be adopted within China. So far, there has been little outright opposition to the move.


President Hwang Shiao-qiang, President of the Republic of China
First Minister Liu Xan-Tseng, First Minister of the Republic of China and leader of the Reform Party
Deputy First Minister Ji Zhong, Deputy First Minister of the Republic of China and deputy leader of the Reform Party
Chancellor Zheng Sanlong, Chancellor of the Republic of China
Foreign Minister Kou Keng, Foreign Minister of the Republic of China

Prince Li Jun-meng, leader of the Chinese Imperialist Party and Leader of the Opposition

Ambassador Geng Cheung, Ambassador to the Empire of Japan
Ambassador Tsei Kang, Ambassador to the United States of America
Ambassador Xiang Lin-kei, Ambassador to Eisenkreis-Kzechverin
Ambassador Chung Jiang, Ambassador to the Russian Empire
Ambassador Deng Lipeng, Ambassador to the British Empire
Ambassador Kuang Chanming, Ambassador to the German Empire
Ambassador Shen Tung, Ambassador to the State of Australia
Ambassador Rong Rentsu, Ambassador to the Kingdom of the Netherlands

Field Marshal Ernst Ludwig von Grafenberg, Chief of the Chinese General Staff and military advisor to Liu Xan-Tseng.
General Wang Guo-wei, Commander-in-Chief of the Republican Chinese Army
Admiral Yeung Xiao-dan, Admiral of the Republican Chinese Navy


In the midst of industrialisation and modernisation, the economy of China is a whirlwind of mechanisation and the removal of inefficiency and corruption. Though currently the economic state of the Republic of China is precarious at best, Eisenkern industrial assistance is proving very useful to the Chinese state in its modernisation efforts, though it will be a long time before China is fully prepared to flex its muscles and reform its image as an outdated laughing stock of a nation.
China, due to its size, is almost self-sufficient, though it lacks certain key resources that would otherwise allow it to exploit its large sources of potential income and trade goods - most notably human resources. The Chinese economy is being held back by the last remnants of the Qing past and the sprawling, choked bureaucracy that characterised the Qing and the Ming before them. Though the Tseng government is cutting both the red tape and the quantity of red tape, it will be some time before the Chinese economy is able to come up to full speed.

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Aaaaaand I'm out! 

No point in staying somewhere I'm not welcome. Well, if one of you want a RP without the 'status quo' everyone is so keen in keeping, shot me a PM. I'm the nazi germany to your soviet union (or soviet union to your nazi germany, just don't call me if you are or you need switzerland).

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Aaaaaand I'm out! 

No point in staying somewhere I'm not welcome. Well, if one of you want a RP without the 'status quo' everyone is so keen in keeping, shot me a PM. I'm the nazi germany to your soviet union (or soviet union to your nazi germany, just don't call me if you are or you need switzerland).@Wernher

Well, that is unfortunate.

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*waves medieval sword* 

What the Hell happened? I just read through all of that, thinking "OOOOOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH DIS GONNA BE GUD!" and none of y'all screamed at each other. 

You guys suck. If there's gonna be OOC drama, someone at least has to get banned, God damnit! It's literally the rules of any internet forum anywhere. 

Ah well. There's always next time. Personally, whilst Wernher may have been a bit overbearing with some of what he said, I'd of still voted for having some bastard country that everyone had to go to war with. But that's just me, and it looks like it's too late now anyhow. Nevermind, onwards and upwards. 

Anyways... let's get back to being friendly with each other, and declare war on global hunger ;)

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@Legion X51 Ooh, so no ambassador to the United Kingdom of the Netherlands? Okay :(

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I'm not finished, ye Dutchie.

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I'm not finished, ye Dutchie.@Legion X51

No, I get it... I'm not important to you... I thought we had something special! I was even going to educate your people about how great Europe was, but now you can forget that! T.T

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<Snipped quote by Legion X51>

No, I get it... I'm not important to you... I thought we had something special! I was even going to educate your people about how great Europe was, but now you can forget that! T.T@Zoldyck

We already know how great Europe is, our First Minister was Ambassador to the Eisenkern before the Qing Dynasty's collapse :P

Also, your precious East Indies are mein. MEIN. In about 10 years when we industrialise fully. But still. MEIN.

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We already know how great Europe is, our First Minister was Ambassador to the Eisenkern before the Qing Dynasty's collapse :P

Also, your precious East Indies are mein. MEIN. In about 10 years when we industrialise fully. But still. MEIN.@Legion X51

Noooo!!! I would rather blow it up then cede it to you! ACTIVATE THE DEATHSTAR!!!

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<Snipped quote by Zoldyck>

We already know how great Europe is, our First Minister was Ambassador to the Eisenkern before the Qing Dynasty's collapse :P

Also, your precious East Indies are mein. MEIN. In about 10 years when we industrialise fully. But still. MEIN.@Legion X51

Good luck with that, because the Empire of Japan has vast interest in keeping the Dutch's holdings secure.

Edit:Also are all the provinces on your territory list Manchuria and Taiwan? Those are the only bits of China Japan has. Unless China decided to claim the Philippines.

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Yes, they are Manchuria and Taiwan.

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Things on the guild seem to have slowed a lot lately.

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Spring Break everyone is gone?

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Spring Break everyone is gone?@MonkeyBusiness

Wouldn't be surprised if that were the case.

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Work has picked up for me, since this is the busiest season of the year in my workcenter.

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Sorry for not being active for a while, I will post something tomorrow though! The Dutch shall conquer the globe!... Through mercandise!

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