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Let's try not to shoot our reinforcements.
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Let's try not to shoot our reinforcements.


They aint there yet, I'm just setting the stage for some fireworks ;)
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Shit, this is great. Any room for one more?
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Shit, this is great. Any room for one more?


There sure is.
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ARVN reinforcements. Hah, they'll conduct a 'search and avoid' patrol. The ARVN was well-known for letting the VC know where they'd be patrolling to avoid any unfortunate hostile fire incidents.

One option that exists is calling up a Mike Force (SF officers and NCO's + highly trained Montagnards trained as a strike force) out of An Khe or Pleiku for on-the ground search and rescue or for reconnaissance. They're highly mobile and therefore easy to bring in on the move, and the Montagnards actually fight. (Some of the best troops of the entire war.) In any case, if there's any sort of combat going on at all, and they see the movement, that would mean that they're going to be putting Bird Dogs overhead, possibly Skyraiders if they're moving ARVN troops, since the VNAF flies Skyraiders with the USAF often advising.
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I don't think I've ever read anything positive about the ARVN. Other than they sometimes held hands.
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Mike Forces weren't ARVN. They were specifically recruited and trained by (Army) Special Forces advisors in Vietnam from the early 1960's on from ethnic minority populations that didn't like the ethnic Vietnamese, so they were eager to fight the PAVN/VC forces as a matter of survival.

After the war, these minorities were punished very harshly -- a lot of them were evacuated to the states or escaped on boats to come here. They were definitely some of the most loyal allies the US had and we sort of left them to their fate when we pulled out.
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Oh, I'm aware of who the Montegnards are and the SF men that trained them are, some hard SOBs. I was specifically speaking about the ARVN, I just remembered reading about the culture shock to the Americans when they'd see them walking arm in arm which I guess was a thing in Vietnam.
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I think that I will leave this RP.

I am in too many roleplays anyway. Bye.
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Oh, I'm aware of who the Montegnards are and the SF men that trained them are, some hard SOBs. I was specifically speaking about the ARVN, I just remembered reading about the culture shock to the Americans when they'd see them walking arm in arm which I guess was a thing in Vietnam.


Yeah, lots of cultures have super different cultural norms than we do. In the Middle East, for example, "polite conversation space" is about one or two feet. It can be really awkward for an American, since we prefer three or even four.

The men there also routinely hold hands, or walk arm-in-arm, as a show of affection between friends. Seriously, I've seen Afghan National Army soldiers walking through a FOB holding hands and chattering away. Over there it's completely normal.
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It can be really awkward for an American, since we prefer three or even four.


Four feet!? That seems way to far away to speak to someone.
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Four feet!? That seems way to far away to speak to someone.


That's pretty normal for informal conversation with strangers in the US or intimate family discussions in Finland.
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"Dude, personal space. Get out of my bubble."

Average person's bubble is about 2 feet. Each person having a 2 foot bubble comes out about about 4 feet.

Not that difficult.

3-10 feet is normal conversation space, to not feel too far away, and hold a normal conversation, closer than that for people that you know fairly well. Skin to six inches is "intimate" space, meaning someone that you're intimately familiar and comfortable with. This does not mean "sex" but it can be. It can be a best friend, family member, or lover. Semi-intimate is usually about six inches to a foot and a half, someone close, a confidant, best friend, or sometimes with something interspersed... or if you're talking to each other without being face to face, but at like a 90 degree angle like L. If you ever watch American men, they rarely talk directly facing each other. They stand next to each other like brothers, or equals, sometimes in a line, or on "corners" or at like an angle form each other. Sometimes 90 degrees, sometimes wider. Sometimes they'll narrow it if they want to be more direct or confidental/conspiratorial.

Body language and spacing often plays a great deal in how we interact with each other and in subtext. Actors go to great pains to master this language, and police, investigators, intelligence and information analysts go to great lengths to be able to understand it's nuances to tell when someone is lying or not giving the correct information. Psychologists, and anthropologists study it as well and there are many published papers on the subject out there.

Some of it is universal, culture to culture, some of it isn't. *ponders giving a larger primer on it...*
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If Finnish people stand four feet away from someone in an intimate family conversation, how far do they speak when it is with an acquaintance, or stranger?
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CS posted. So how would my character be entered into roleplay at this point?

Edit: I just noticed Rare left and the other medic hasn't posted IC. Would there be any possibility of me either playing Rare's character or tweaking my character to be a medic?
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I have not posted because he is not in the RP yet.

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I have not posted because he is not in the RP yet.


Whoops, my bad.

Never mind my request then, I'll play Cho as is.
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Don't Worry Roadrash and Tomebinder will jump us in soon.
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