@Tenish the Mighty If it really is approaching absolute zero inside of the ship that is a much more interesting anomaly than otherwise.

I was hoping it'd take you a little longer to figure that one out. :)

@Bonjour xx SO ARE WE HOT OR COLD??!!

You're cold, but as Tenish pointed out, that's something worth investigating.

@Tenish the Mighty If it really is approaching absolute zero inside of the ship that is a much more interesting anomaly than otherwise.

I was hoping it'd take you a little longer to figure that one out. :)

@Bonjour xx SO ARE WE HOT OR COLD??!!

You're cold, but as Tenish pointed out, that's something worth investigating.

Space yetis, called it

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Ok, so my blood vacuum boiled. I'll seal it off.

Yes. But not because of heat.

Pressure. Physics. PFA. Science.

@Tenish the Mighty If it really is approaching absolute zero inside of the ship that is a much more interesting anomaly than otherwise.

I was hoping it'd take you a little longer to figure that one out. :)

@Bonjour xx SO ARE WE HOT OR COLD??!!

You're cold, but as Tenish pointed out, that's something worth investigating.

Oh you sly minx, you.

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Yes. But not because of heat.

Pressure. Physics. PFA. Science.

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Oh you sly minx, you.

actually, now that I think about it, we are walking on a cold floor, and I just punched a frozen chunk of metal in half. Also, wouldn't the entire ship be a Bose-Einstein condensate?

actually, now that I think about it, we are walking on a cold floor, and I just punched a frozen chunk of metal in half. Also, wouldn't the entire ship be a Bose-Einstein condensate?

Actually, I said earlier...

...Most of the party is floating about in the umbilical between the shuttle and the Lone Star...

...you all just seemed to assume that you were walking. So far the only person to magnetise themselves successfully is Hundred, and she's outside.

When I said the ship was at absolute zero, I was referring only to the atmosphere aboard it. The ship's hull and materials still retain some heat, and although there's very little it's still enough to keep the matter above the critical temperature point required for any condensed matter states to become relevant. Otherwise the energy provided by Mez's little light show would've had a far more impressive effect on the hull.

Okaaaay, so what I'm getting from this is that maybe Mez shouldn't have blown the door off. But hey, he's a grieving, warmongering cyborg who is lost in the vast extremities of space and doesn't give a shit about anyone on the team, with the exception of, maybe, Marga. But even she is trying his patience right now, so she can go to hell too. :P

In any event, I've had a glorious weekend working myself into drunken stupors and I'll be back tomorrow :D

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Actually, I said earlier...<Snipped quote by SimplyJohn>...you all just seemed to assume that you were walking. So far the only person to magnetise themselves successfully is Hundred, and she's outside.

When I said the ship was at absolute zero, I was referring only to the atmosphere aboard it. The ship's hull and materials still retain some heat, and although there's very little it's still enough to keep the matter above the critical temperature point required for any condensed matter states to become relevant. Otherwise the energy provided by Mez's little light show would've had a far more impressive effect on the hull.

Oh God, physics.... Though I'm following this, I'm a biologist and haven't touched a physics textbook in years.

i just wanna get inside the ship

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Oh God, physics.... Though I'm following this, I'm a biologist and haven't touched a physics textbook in years.

If it makes you feel any better I'm basing almost all my jabber on research I did for a space fantasy setting I ran a year ago.

I wanted to freeze a star.

I wanted to freeze a star.

This might just be the most intriguing sentence I've ever read.

Mostly pertaining to the how and why?

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This might just be the most intriguing sentence I've ever read.

Mostly pertaining to the how and why?

my guess, use liquid helium to pull energy from it, then dump it in the shadow of a close orbiting body. To deal with such a radical temperature shift would take a ton of energy.

And why? Superweapon, maybe? Or it could be to make harvesting the hydrogen much, much, cheaper.

i just wanna get inside the ship

The door's over there and I think Simon's found something that could help. Only problem is getting in through the door and resealing it before the umbilical detaches from the ship. That or finding a way to reseal the outer hatch which got 'accidentally' blown off of its hinges.

Okaaaay, so what I'm getting from this is that maybe Mez shouldn't have blown the door off. But hey, he's a grieving, warmongering cyborg who is lost in the vast extremities of space and doesn't give a shit about anyone on the team, with the exception of, maybe, Marga. But even she is trying his patience right now, so she can go to hell too. :P

His ex-girlfriend was pretty much humping the leg of a complete stranger right in front of him. I'm surprised Mez bothered to aim at the door rather than Farvis's head.

my guess, use liquid helium to pull energy from it, then dump it in the shadow of a close orbiting body. To deal with such a radical temperature shift would take a ton of energy.

That wouldn't work as the helium would only act as an accelerant for the nucleosynthesis of heavier elements within the core of the star^[LINK], functionally increasing the star's lifespan.

Although it would increase the central mass and therefore the chances of the star collapsing into a singularity rather than a dwarf star once the hydrogen fuel has been consumed, so it could still be used as a super weapon, as long as you didn't mind waiting a few million years for it to activate.

"You may have won this time, but your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren will pay!"

If we were to get some hydrogen into its solid state and somehow put it on the star than the rest of the hydrogen would freeze before that piece became plasma, especially if you could place it on the relatively cool surface of the star. This would stop nuclear fusion in the star and you'd be left with solid hydrogen and helium gas, as well as trace element within the core.

Your only problem would be finding a way to transport the solid hydrogen to the surface without it becoming plasma first.

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The door's over there and I think Simon's found something that could help. Only problem is getting in through the door and resealing it before the umbilical detaches from the ship. That or finding a way to reseal the outer hatch which got 'accidentally' blown off of its hinges.

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His ex-girlfriend was pretty much humping the leg of a complete stranger right in front of him. I'm surprised Mez bothered to aim at the door rather than Farvis's head.

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That wouldn't work as the helium would only act as an accelerant for the nucleosynthesis of heavier elements within the core of the star^[LINK], functionally increasing the star's lifespan.

Although it would increase the central mass and therefore the chances of the star collapsing into a singularity rather than a dwarf star once the hydrogen fuel has been consumed, so it could still be used as a super weapon, as long as you didn't mind waiting a few million years for it to activate.

"You may have won this time, but your great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great-grandchildren will pay!"

If we were to get some hydrogen into its solid state and somehow put it on the star than the rest of the hydrogen would freeze before that piece become plasma, especially if you could place it on the relatively cool surface of the star. This would stop nuclear fusion in the star and you'd be left with solid hydrogen and helium gas, as well as trace element within the core.

Your only problem would be finding a way to transport the solid hydrogen to the surface without it becoming plasma first.

It would if you ran it through tubes, similar to a geothermal system. That would require a material with a melting point above the temperature of the sun, but that's easy. You'd also have to shed heat faster than the sun does naturally in that spot to cool it.

You could also place the solid hydrogen in a giant dewar, with a cooling system constantly cooling the stuff at the center.

Stop it. You are hurting my brain.

Why can't we decide on simpler things. XD

I could get technical and science-y and explain how Farvis's suit crap won't stop sharpened keratin from dicing through it and all that medical jargon you'd expect from a doctor, but I'm not gonna. XD

Stop it. You are hurting my brain.

Are you sure that's not the liquid helium? I know @TheUnknowable was eager to run tests on his drilling idea.

It would if you ran it through tubes, similar to a geothermal system. That would require a material with a melting point above the temperature of the sun, but that's easy. You'd also have to shed heat faster than the sun does naturally in that spot to cool it.

The problem with that idea is that the material you made the pipes out of would be a better heat dissipator than the helium it was being used to pump. Why not just ram slabs of that stuff into the star and use it as a giant heat sink instead? That would help stabilize the reactions in the same way as dropping a carbon rod into a fission reactor.

@SimplyJohn Y'know you could argue about it for hours and hours and hours but it won't have anything good going for it other than seeing who's science is better.

@SimplyJohn Y'know you could argue about it for hours and hours and hours but it won't have anything good going for it other than seeing who's science is better.

I'm not actually using science, just logic and imagination. It's amazing what you can come up with when you use them in the right proportions, and don't let wizards have all the fun. :)

I could get technical and science-y and explain how Farvis's suit crap won't stop sharpened keratin from dicing through it and all that medical jargon you'd expect from a doctor, but I'm not gonna. XD

Whoever said the claws were made of keratin?

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Are you sure that's not the liquid helium? I know @TheUnknowable was eager to run tests on his drilling idea.

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The problem with that idea is that the material you made the pipes out of would be a better heat dissipator than the helium it was being used to pump. Why not just ram slabs of that stuff into the star and use it as a giant heat sink instead? That would help stabilize the reactions in the same way as dropping a carbon rod into a fission reactor.

If you ran it into the star it would keep the heat in the star. With the liquid helium thing you could remove the heat from the star. But if you just want to dump stuff into it until it cools down, why not a planet, or an entire belt worth of carbonaceous condrites and nickel/iron asteroids, sense all of those release far less energy when fused than hydrogen and helium.

@SimplyJohn Well, judging from how they are claws, most modern (and I'm assuming futuristic or alien) claws will have to be made from the same substance: keratin. It's responsible for our fingernails and toenails, hair, horse hooves, claws amongst most different species of cat and dog, antlers, also in the shells of turtles and claws of reptiles. It's also found in the feathers, beak and talons of birds, along with the quills of the porcupine.

So it's safe to say that alien claws, no matter how biologically different from Earth animals or avians, will still be structurally similar if they have claws: through keratin, either superior in hardiness and toughness to our own Earth keratin proteins, or a higher, better form.

And the only thing that matches keratin in toughness is the chitin of insect shells. So either this thing is biologically similar in make to an animal, or it's an insect. Only two of those options, alien or no, it will be biologically similar.

I'm not a nurse IRL for nothing.

Unless it's a robot.

Which I'm guessing it's not.