Just because we were once one House does not mean we have mercy for one another.​

Many years ago, a large and powerful family ruled over the whole of Japan. This family was called House Sorrilith, whose origins branch back to medieval times in Europe. They were strong and fierce, hunting down their enemies both in broad daylight and the cover of darkness, using both conventional weapons and magic alike. Several people hailed them as heroes, deeming that they were the ones who purged the streets of scum and villainy.

House Sorrilith liked to believe that they were a stable family, but such a large number of people making up its ranks meant that it was bound to suffer from internal conflicts. Some members believed that House Sorrilith was not doing enough to protect their people while others stated that their methods were too brutal and merciless. Conflict turned into severe confrontations and distrust, and soon enough, House Sorrilith underwent a massive civil war. After five years of fighting and many mages dying, the confrontations died down. The House was left in shambles-- eventually, it faded away, leaving behind only its legacy and legend.

The mages who survived the war formed two separate houses: Alicornia, named after the mythological winged unicorn of peace and tranquility, and Gryphes, dubbed after the bestial half-bird, half-large cat creature of legend. House Alicornia vows to follow the footsteps of House Sorrilith; they promise to only hunt the wrong-doers and evil that plagues Japan. House Gryphes, however, is much more violent when it comes to their work, and often innocent bystanders get caught up in their jobs.

House Gryphes and House Alicornia have clashed for three years now, fighting each other on the street and sabotaging their ranks. The people of House Alicornia believe that House Gryphes should be destroyed, as they are violent and distrustful, while House Gryphes believe that House Alicornia is weak and should be pushed aside. However, one shouldn't judge a book by its cover, especially when mostly everyone is fighting for the same cause...​

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After coming back from a slight break, I've decided to run an original RP. Who's interested? :)

Sounds cool

Nice to see some interest.

Would prefer it if not in Japan. Not very japanese names either.

Sorry, it's gonna take place in Japan since it's inspired by some animes I watched. Also, the Houses' names branch off of House Sorrilith (an ancient/medieval European name), so they kept the tradition in remememberance.

Interested

Yay!

Interested!

I'd be down.

Yay!

How'd the european house come to rule over the extremely nationalistic Japan? The country out and out closed its borders to foreign influence for the longest time and has shades of extreme nationalism and recalcitrantly sticking to their own traditions even nowadays, it's part of their whole culture.

Being inspired by anime doesn't really mean it has to be set in Japan, especially if the entire thing is going to revolve around europeans and european terminology, it'd make more sense for it to be set somewhere in nondescript Europe or for the houses and terms to be Japanese-inspired as well.

Yeah, that's really weird. If the RP is about European families that have been around for ages, why have them be from Japan? Just because it's inspired by anime doesn't mean it has to be set in Japan.

Guys, if you don't like it, then you don't have to join. I chose for it to be in Japan because I wanted it to be different and have a unique experience. Roleplays don't have to be realistic in that sort of sense.

The characters will obviously not be strictly European. After being in Japan for a long while, about ninety percent of the families' population will be oriental, but the ORIGINS of the family (more speciically, House Sorrilith, whose Japanese branch broke apart roughly three years ago) will have been European.

I don't specifically like people coming into my interest checks and stating that it doesn't make sense without being interested in the first place. I can make whatever roleplay I want without it making sense, because it's supposed to be fun. I don't necessarily have to explain every single part of the idea just for it to make sense. ^_^

There's a big difference between realism and deliberate historical revisionism. Not even the "heretical" Dutch had any interaction at all with the Japanese beyond trade, let alone coming en masse and starting a massive crime family. Including the existence of a European (or, indeed, non-Japanese) family in Japan dating back from before the 50s basically requires erasing a significant portion of Japan's history, and that's extremely problematic. Unless you're willing to incorporate this foreigner-friendly Japan's history into your setting, you're very clearly expressing your unwillingness to use Japan as anything but a condiment to the story you want to tell, which is extremely racist.

The fact that you're unironically using "oriental" definitely implies that you've got some racist feelings you're showing through here. The word oriental comes straight from old, European, and above all else horribly racist usage, describing anyone from Eastern Asia, regardless of their culture or race. It's akin to calling a Native American an Indian. If you're going to set something in Asia, at least be courteous enough to refer to the inhabitants correctly and learn their history.

Dude, calm down. I was in no manner trying to be racist. I'm not a history nut. I chose Japan as a setting because I thought it would be interesting and both of the settings of the anime I was inspired by were in Japan. Just because I don't know much about its history doesn't mean I can't make a roleplay situated in it.

I don't want to argue about logic in something that supposed to be fun for me and everyone else. Like I said, if you don't like the basis of the interest check, please click the back button and leave. Not to mention I'm not necessarily in the mood to be arguing, either, and I don't want to make enemies.

Guys, if you don't like it, then you don't have to join. I chose for it to be in Japan because I wanted it to be different and have a unique experience. Roleplays don't have to be realistic in that sort of sense.

The characters will obviously not be strictly European. After being in Japan for a long while, about ninety percent of the families' population will be oriental, but the ORIGINS of the family (more speciically, House Sorrilith, whose Japanese branch broke apart roughly three years ago) will have been European.

I don't specifically like people coming into my interest checks and stating that it doesn't make sense without being interested in the first place. I can make whatever roleplay I want without it making sense, because it's supposed to be fun. I don't necessarily have to explain every single part of the idea just for it to make sense. ^_^

I'm honestly not seeing how setting it in Japan is original or makes any difference in this case. There's no real need to set it in Japan when it'd actually make more sense to set it in Europe so the european mob family doesn't stick out like a sore thumb considering Japan has its own organized crime with a long history and traditions. Fiction doesn't have to correlate to reality 100%, but there is such a thing as good sense, and having Japanese organized crime take the scene in a story about organized crime set in Japan is sensical. You'll notice other people have already pointed this out, this isn't an isolated thing.

If I'm coming into your interest check and taking the time to post, I must clearly be interested. I'd be okay with magic organized crime, whether set in Japan or otherise, I think it's a fun concept to play around in. I'm simply explaining that hey, this one particular bit doesn't make a whole lot of sense and can be easily fixed so you don't have people asking why the game set in Japan is focused on an organization of european origin which somehow took over a country known for being isolationist and straight up ethnocentric throughout its history. Fantasy might not have to stick to the rules of reality, but it should at least be internally consistent.

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I'm honestly not seeing how setting it in Japan is original or makes any difference in this case. There's no real need to set it in Japan when it'd actually make more sense to set it in Europe so the european mob family doesn't stick out like a sore thumb considering Japan has its own organized crime with a long history and traditions. Fiction doesn't have to correlate to reality 100%, but there is such a thing as good sense, and having Japanese organized crime take the scene in a story about organized crime set in Japan is sensical. You'll notice other people have already pointed this out, this isn't an isolated thing.

If I'm coming into your interest check and taking the time to post, I must clearly be interested. I'd be okay with magic organized crime, whether set in Japan or otherise, I think it's a fun concept to play around in. I'm simply explaining that hey, this one particular bit doesn't make a whole lot of sense and can be easily fixed so you don't have people asking why the game set in Japan is focused on an organization of european origin which somehow took over a country known for being isolationist and straight up ethnocentric throughout its history. Fantasy might not have to stick to the rules of reality, but it should at least be internally consistent.

The thing is, I had it set in Japan because one of the animes I was inspired by had a similiar plot and was also set in Japan. The anime revolved around a rather huge and strong Italian mafia spreading around the world in different branches, so there was the American branch, Italian branch (the strongest) and the Japanese branch. The Japanese branch came to be because the boss of the Italian family decided to vacation over there, and thus, after an affair, his bloodline became prominent in Japan as well.

I just want to have fun. I was inspired by these animes and I don't want to be attacked because of it... I don't mean to appear dumb or stupid or ignorant or racist like I'm being made out to be.

Dude, calm down. I was in no manner trying to be racist. I'm not a history nut. I chose Japan as a setting because I thought it would be interesting and both of the settings of the anime I was inspired by were in Japan. Just because I don't know much about its history doesn't mean I can't make a roleplay situated in it.

I don't want to argue about logic in something that supposed to be fun for me and everyone else. Like I said, if you don't like the basis of the interest check, please click the back button and leave. Not to mention I'm not necessarily in the mood to be arguing, either, and I don't want to make enemies.

You don't have to be deliberately or consciously racist to be one, you know. You're erasing a rich and diverse culture purely to insert your own one, in a place where it has no reason to exist. It would be less insensitive if you made this RP about either the European mafia in Europe or the Japanese Yakuza in Japan, because that way the characters involved would not only logically fit in, but you wouldn't have to forcibly and clumsily insert foreign ideals and names into them.

I'm genuinely interested in this RP, it's just that I think you're being very problematic here, and would prefer if you subtly shifted the setting to something not only more logical, but more understanding of the cultures in play here.

I'm not changing anything. I'm sorry, this is the way that it's staying.

That's quite unfortunate, then. I thought I could have convinced you not to be a racist doing this. I'll still look into the RP, it's just that I'm rather disappointed in your refusal to understand the dangers of throwing away an entire culture because you wanted to run a Baccano game.