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Sorry for not posting my brain has been more fucked up then this whole Asuka-Hide thing *says hiding behind a bin*

[Edit]Post made so Hide are you up for a Asuka beat down after all this is done?


no femdom pls

Minase is so on Shi's list right now. XD


all is according to keikaku
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Mwhahahahaha~
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Posts where art thou posts?
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Waiting for the day to be over.

Seriously after doing nothing for a festival, we're doing nothing again for a whole day.

It's kind of hard for posts to roll in if we're expected to do nothing. You need to keep players stimulated somehow.
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I do agree with Sho we need to start doing stuff like cause if we keep it slow and not moving its just gonna be CLOSED

Anyway me and Sho cant just keep posting about tea we need to get things moving - sry for being pushy but.
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For one I'd like to point out that you guys were the ones that sent your chars directly to the rooftop hours ahead of the meeting time. I set up this reflection period for the chars that are not already mafia affiliated to think about their decision to be apart of this. It was also meant to be a prime moment for char interaction. Hide and Asuka are about to interrogate Fon (Hide even brought a bow). Ten is currently at Luca's ready to ascertain the whether he's fit to be boss our not. You guys are the ones who chose the most boring scenario you could. I'll give you something to do but I'll say it again I'm not a dungeon master. You guys are here as creative writers yourselves so be creative.

But yes, @Amaterasu, @Demon Shinobi, and @Grey seemed,to have disappeared.
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But. They. Are. Going. To. Be. Part. Of. It. Anyway. That's why they joined this whole RP in the first place. They can do their reflection in a flashback or make up their mind on the moment they are to make their decision too. My guy is already mafia, the hell is he going to do? The hell are some other characters going to do? There's nothing interesting happening in the immediate vicinity anyway. It's a boring day that 90% of people would hit the skip button for if there was one in order to get to the meaty story bits.

Your entire plan for reflection backfired. It just bored us. It was redundant because we all joined this RP making characters who we already planned in advance to become part of mafia anyway. There was nothing to keep us asking questions or doing anything, you basically just told us to go sit in the corner until time was up.

I am also in regular contact with Amaterasu, we're simply WAITING. Demon Shinobi was on a week ago. He's also waiting. Grey also posted within the last week and is likely waiting too.

We were all waiting. You are not considering the other players at all, or at the very least, you're trying too hard by giving us this time. The only character who can use this time well was YOUR character, no one else. Literally just your character was the only one who could use this nothing-to-do day well. Because he was the one to become boss. The REST OF US HOWEVER. Are still merely CANDIDATES, meaning the gravity of the choice is a few times heavier for your character than ours, thus meaning only your character needed this time to reflect.

Some of us tried to have fun too as I can see, but it stopped short because I believe it was pretty forced.
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Also Naoki May not be in the mafia and I don't wanna disrespect anyone in this dispute but he trained for this his life without realizing and when it came into play that he could use his "abilitys" he jumped at the opportunitie so yes I shortened it down but what else is to be said other than he was ready for this for a long time and he gets the opportunitie.

Again I'm trying to sound respectful and cut you some slack but we decided we were basically ready in the CS
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Well I am sorry if I sound rude, but generally I've GM'd RPs for quite some time now, and these little mistakes I know for a fact are what kills RPs.

Where I came from, these kinds of mistakes would lead to them being immediately dead. No chance at revival after even 2 days if no one posts. Seriously. You are lucky to have players who are still coming back to this and posting whenever they can or feel like it (which happens to also be whenever they can).
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So sorry guys I have not posted. I haven't had much online time. So you know. Post in half an hour, give or take.
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I just skipped reading the argument part but yeah whoops, I'll start to work on a post in awhile! I'm a gamer first before anything else, he he he.
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I'm on vacation for the rest of the week but I'll sit down and try to write a proper post if I can.
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*cricket noises*
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Alright I've been working a lot lately but schedule has calmed down. Now here's the deal. This is my first time gming an rp and I've been very aware of how shitty a job I've done so far. From day one I've been asking for help and asking you're guys opinions and ideas for this very reason. Now Sho I understand everything you've said but the reality is that currently you're the only one, Chrono as well I think, insisting to move on. If it's the majority's wish to move on then fine we'll move on. That's how I want this rp to work. The pacing should be set by all of us, not just you and especially not just me. That's why I ask for the groups opinions and ideas. I still think that you and Chrono wrote yourselves into a corner but I also recognize that there hasn't been much in-game to do. This comes from a want to establish our characters a bit more before jumping into the full story. And yes you can argue that we did that with the festival but for those who came in later like you and Chrono you didn't get the entirety of that time. This section wasn't just meant for the reflections of the chars and I'll give you that point that my char was the one who needed the reflection time the most but this was also supposed to be a chance for more char interaction. All in all I'm not the perfect gm and I've always acknowledged that I'm the farthest thing from and so I look towards you guys for help but it's gotta be more than one person saying they want to move past an entire section already in progress before I skip it all together. All I ask is that we all work to make this a fun RP~
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Look I don't wanna trod on your boots take all the time you need for char development but all I want is more posts
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Aye, more posts would be nice, maybe a conflict or two for those that are waiting? Other than that this section is more Char Dev so we could skip past it if everyone wants some action.
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Let me break this down a little.

First, the RP being influenced by the majority only works in an ideal world. This is not that. You're new to holding an RP and I can see that because of that line of thinking. It's democratic, so it must work... Right? Wrong. You're the GM, by virtue of the existence of a single GM that has incredible influence over the RP, every RP with one central GM like this is a dictatorship. And nothing major happens without your say-so.

There's also the structural flaws. Unlike a country, people can come and go as they please with little to hold them down or in anywhere, and sometimes when people go, they go for good. They'll have no reason to stay if they're the 'minority', because they're not being satisfied.

Next, you seem to misunderstand how character development and establishment works.

If you pay close attention to movies, games, and shows, you'll realize that character development and establishment doesn't happen with one actor on an empty stage. They need something to interact with, which has been achieved somewhat with player interaction... Which is also a problem, I'll get to why in a moment. But going back to one actor on an empty stage, for character development and establishment to truly happen, you require events for them to react to, crisis, complications, you name it. How they deal with that, is what develops or establishes a character, depending on the event and the character. The only character in this RP not experience this problem of 'one actor empty stage' is yours, because yours is the only one who is majorly affected by the revelation as an heir to a mafia regime.

You will need to think harder about the social ties of other players in your RP. It may not seem major at all, everyone's friends in the OOC right? Except the problem is... In IC, their characters aren't. Trust me, when you do start to make little lines connecting characters whether you write it out or it's recorded in your head, you'll begin to realize who is on the outside of the player inner circle. The people who are outside that social circle are the ones most likely to leave early, simply because there are less people who are significant to their character.

Next, is player interaction. In society, how easy is it for you to actually walk up to someone and try and make friends with them out of absolutely nowhere? Now see what I'm getting at?

The only relationship some of the player's characters have so far with other characters is because they were all at the shrine and are now involved with the Vongola somehow. That's all. Most of us don't have any real opinion of one another. We just all happen to be gathered under this one banner for god knows what. We need more events to tie us all together.

We also wrote ourselves into that situation believing it was time to move on. I remember distinctly you said we were finally getting 'to the meaty bits', so I had figured it was time to get moving onto that. Except now we're taking a day to do pretty much nothing, you never said anything about it in the IC as a note, and I saw no mention of it in OOC (if there was, apologies, but even then there's nothing to do).

You're new and that shows, but that reason alone shouldn't stop you from trying harder than what you're doing now.

Basically for around half a week we've agreed that we should move on, and there hasn't been a post getting to actually moving on, so... Move on. Let's get to the fun part like you said we would almost a month ago.
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So we agree it's the Gm 's choice and more posts?
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But the low-down is, we definitely need more posts.
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