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Son, if you are up against two people you lose for SURE. You can't defend two sides at once. Three is a death sentence.


I agree with Ammokkx. Besides, the point is that we are all relatively weak at first or just not as good as we could be. Case in point, why I had Wretha do something simple, yet creative enough to win her the match. We're suppose to get stronger through our journey together. Its no fun if we're bad-asses right off the bat.
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...It feels weird to be agreed with...
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Son, if you are up against two people you lose for SURE. You can't defend two sides at once. Three is a death sentence.


well you can if you put enough arrows in one of them first then move onto the next

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yeah i get what you mean. I was just hoping it could be a bar room brawl type thing, even tough we are in the basement. it would of been funny.
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well you can if you put enough arrows in one of them first then move onto the next

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yeah i get what you mean. I was just hoping it could be a bar room brawl type thing, even tough we are in the basement. it would of been funny.


Erm... That's very flawed logic. A bow is an extremely slow weapon, in an arena you might get a single shot off before being rushed down by the other person, if there were multiple. Even if you are only up against one you'd need an extremely lucky shot to stop their charge, as many spots may sting but don't stop the other person from moving.

Also you can't claim to shoot first and then change, because that leaves a lot of downtime in your defense where you'll be stabbed/slashed at in a real fight.
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I get what your saying and it was just a stupid idea that i thought would of been fun, just the whole basement in a brawl type scenario with Rask and Wretha just sitting calmly in the middle. But a couple of points, who says you can't fire three arrows at once (I've done it with my bow, its possible just highly inaccurate, but you are close range so high likelihood you'll hit something) also when your firing from a close range the impact the arrow hits the object with will be incredibly high potentially smashing through armour, especially if you have an 80 pound bow and broad heads. And there is a fast shooting technique that can fire approximately 10 arrows in 5 seconds in real life. Also this is fantasy RP and my character is an elf like yours so high accuracy and rate of fire is possible.

but like i said it was just a stupid idea i had playing out in my head. I'm happy just killing/hurting (not sure which as of the moment but ill decide a bit later) a Gothi
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I get what your saying and it was just a stupid idea that i thought would of been fun, just the whole basement in a brawl type scenario with Rask and Wretha just sitting calmly in the middle. But a couple of points, who says you can't fire three arrows at once (I've done it with my bow, its possible just highly inaccurate, but you are close range so high likelihood you'll hit something) also when your firing from a close range the impact the arrow hits the object with will be incredibly high potentially smashing through armour, especially if you have an 80 pound bow and broad heads. And there is a fast shooting technique that can fire approximately 10 arrows in 5 seconds in real life. Also this is fantasy RP and my character is an elf like yours so high accuracy and rate of fire is possible.

but like i said it was just a stupid idea i had playing out in my head. I'm happy just killing/hurting (not sure which as of the moment but ill decide a bit later) a Gothi


Okay, I love me some combat debate. Let's get this rolling.

1: Your character is not going to be good enough with a bow to do the rapid firing techniques with any form of accurracy. Although even without taking that into consideration, to even pull that off you'd need to be not only very concentrated but also have a very firm grip on your bow and the arrows you pull, in practise this is very much possible but in combat your nerve takes a huge hit due to adrenaline goddamn people trying to kill you. Where the hell did I get ADRENALINE from?

2: Three arrows is possible, but the setup for that is INCREDIBLY long and hard considering you'd need to take three individual objects into one hand, put them onto a small line and then pull said line backwards. This is almost a death sentence itself, because as soon as your opponent sees what you're doing they'll step out of your aim if they have any shred of common sense.

3: You can have a bullet fly straight through your shoulders, stomach, legs, and still be able to run. Even if you'd manage to stagger someone with a good hit, it only takes seconds for adrenaline to kick in and give them a burst of energy to keep going.

4: Fantasy shmantasy. Physics still apply. Sure, there can be some suspension of disbelief, but you still need to keep in mind that no matter what, a body that is similiar to a human's is going to have very strict limitations. Sure, elves can be more nimble. They still need to aim and cover the distance from quiver to bow.

5: Your bow = shit, and you're thinking of modern day practice bow. Try out a stick with a string attached and see how hard it is to actualy operate that thing. Yours is going to be not so different from that.
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@Crazy Doctor You can but each extra opponent will batter you shitless slightly more. One allows you to show off with relatively few scars, two and you are gonna have some nasty bruises and cuts as well as some aches. Three and you are looking at a possible broken bones etc. and losing. You are not an expert remember. You are okay but nothing special, just better than the shit that turned up. We can become special over time :)

Edit: In regards to bow technique you are not going to be able to properly fire 3 at once, again, we are avarage. You are an okay shot with one arrow who has some potential, you are no Bow Master. Same with swords and whatever.
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Byyyyy the waaaaay, sorry if I wasn't supposed to reply the way I did to Doctor. I kinda get carried away when it comes to a debate .w.'
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@Ammokkx Discussion is fine, just always remember to keep it friendly and, at the end of it all, I have the final say in everything :)
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@Ammokkx@gowia Like i said people it was an idea, a stupid one yes, so calm down we don't have to do it. I'm happy with hitting a Gothi

And Ammokkx I have a longbow, I shoot it quite often. Yes i know you'll say thats a modern longbow but it is still a one-piece wooden longbow made out of yew with a draw of around 80 pounds. A bullet and an arrow are two different things. A bullet is a small projectile with high impact but small surface area )this aint the term but its 10:30 here and I'm slightly drunk so it'll take a while) while an arrow, especially with a broad head is a heavy flexing piece of wood with a metal head, if the flexing wood isn't gonna hurt enough than the fletching will stop the arrow in the body, especially the chest. Unless you were less than a metre away from the person. Also I'm basing my character of archery in medieval times, namely moving about and aiming while drawing shooting unlike modern archery where you stand still and take ages to shoot (I've done that as well).Also the arrow can go up to speed of around 55 meters/second for a 80pound bow so that would cover the distance. I know what your saying about the rapid firing technique and i didn't say my character could do it, just that there is a technique where you can do that. And what your saying about the three arrows being shot at once, i get you on that, i didn't say i was going to do it, just that it was possible. And when i said 3 or so people fighting at once i didn't mean all at once i meant that i would be like a bar brawl wear everyone is just fighting randomly and switching their opponents so yu might get a perfectly healthy guy then a half dazed guy to a guy who is just managing not to shit himself. BUt yeah, like i said a couple of times it was an idea now goodnighta
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@Ammokkx@gowia Like i said people it was an idea, a stupid one yes, so calm down we don't have to do it. I'm happy with hitting a Gothi

And Ammokkx I have a longbow, I shoot it quite often. Yes i know you'll say thats a modern longbow but it is still a one-piece wooden longbow made out of yew with a draw of around 80 pounds. A bullet and an arrow are two different things. A bullet is a small projectile with high impact but small surface area )this aint the term but its 10:30 here and I'm slightly drunk so it'll take a while) while an arrow, especially with a broad head is a heavy flexing piece of wood with a metal head, if the flexing wood isn't gonna hurt enough than the fletching will stop the arrow in the body, especially the chest. Unless you were less than a metre away from the person. Also I'm basing my character of archery in medieval times, namely moving about and aiming while drawing shooting unlike modern archery where you stand still and take ages to shoot (I've done that as well).Also the arrow can go up to speed of around 55 meters/second for a 80pound bow so that would cover the distance. I know what your saying about the rapid firing technique and i didn't say my character could do it, just that there is a technique where you can do that. And what your saying about the three arrows being shot at once, i get you on that, i didn't say i was going to do it, just that it was possible. And when i said 3 or so people fighting at once i didn't mean all at once i meant that i would be like a bar brawl wear everyone is just fighting randomly and switching their opponents so yu might get a perfectly healthy guy then a half dazed guy to a guy who is just managing not to shit himself. BUt yeah, like i said a couple of times it was an idea now goodnighta


Son, i don't even care about the bar brawl anymore. I'm just talking about a hypothetical combat situation for fun now.

1: Medieval archers stood in the back row and rained down hell. They most certainly did not move about like some Shonen protagonist. Moving around ruins your aim and strength of the pull, not to mention how easily you can reload. You'd still need to stand still to fire.

2: I used the bullet as an example of something piercing your body not stopping you from moving. You'd need to pelt at least three arrows into the other guy for them to stop due to the pain. In an emergency situation pain get shoved to the sidelines.

3: Still a modern longbow that's been crafted expertly and not something that your character can't possibly have gotten their hands on at this stage.

4: If your character can't do something, don't bring it up .-.

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Right if this argument carries on you can both simply leave and go and vent about this on reddit. My ruling is this is not going to be a bar brawl sort, thank you for the suggestion though @Crazy Doctor, and in regards to the bow. If you are realistic with it you can write as you please @Crazy Doctor. Let's stop with getting stuck up on specifics and get on with the RP, children. *drops mic*
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Right if this argument carries on you can both simply leave and go and vent about this on reddit. My ruling is this is not going to be a bar brawl sort, thank you for the suggestion though @Crazy Doctor, and in regards to the bow. If you are realistic with it you can write as you please @Crazy Doctor. Let's stop with getting stuck up on specifics and get on with the RP, children. *drops mic*


I do it for the sake of debate, man. I love me some debate.
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@Ammokkx That's nice...now I am calling the debate over. I don't want 150 pages of argument over the use of a longbow in this. I want this to be a place to discuss story and talk if you want too. If you want to debate and discuss feel free to take it to PM. But here, I am the king.
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Well...that was intense.
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Well...that was intense.


I know! Shame it got out of hand like that. Totally unexpected ;)
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Going to post tomorrow. I've already used up all my creativity for today on other things >.>
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@Ammokkx No worries, I know the feeling :)
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...Eeeeeeeeh. I don't like this one. Never was very good at making a convincing fight. Do you think it needs any changing, @gowia?
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@Ammokkx Seems fine to me. I have no problems :)
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