This isn't about Ioannes, and so not something that should be primarily discovered/discussed IC, but about Giray.

Basically, I'm stuck; what should be its basic ideology, as in, what reasons does it use to justify all that slavery crap? Religion is moot as Giray is multi-faith, so I'm thinking that Giray Civilians believe in personal freedom, freedom to be who you want to be as long as you don't harm anyone else/interfere with the state.

I don't see how that would get them on board with the Slave System, though, if that's the case; it seems counter-intuitive.

This isn't about Ioannes, and so not something that should be primarily discovered/discussed IC, but about Giray.

Basically, I'm stuck; what should be its basic ideology, as in, what reasons does it use to justify all that slavery crap? Religion is moot as Giray is multi-faith, so I'm thinking that Giray Civilians believe in personal freedom, freedom to be who you want to be as long as you don't harm anyone else/interfere with the state.

I don't see how that would get them on board with the Slave System, though, if that's the case; it seems counter-intuitive.

Maybe slavery based on the idea that you want people high up who know what they are doing, so why not make sure that you can train them from birth and not allow them to switch career paths?

Maybe the state believes in an individual having their own personal life, as long as they serve Giray first in body, mind and soul without question?

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Maybe slavery based on the idea that you want people high up who know what they are doing, so why not make sure that you can train them from birth and not allow them to switch career paths?

Maybe the state believes in an individual having their own personal life, as long as they serve Giray first in body, mind and soul without question?

Hmm...the first one sounds good.

Also, how about this?

Giray started out with a normal form of Government, a Sultanate, which turned out to be on some important trade/sea lanes. Because it was on important trade/sea lanes, various races, religions, and ethnic groups traveled to the Sultanate to trade/as refugees/both. This caused the Sultans to fear their own people, and so create a class of Slave Soldiers and Slave Bureaucrats that would theoretically be loyal to them. However, after a few generations, these Slaves overthrew the Last Sultan and established an oligarchy.

This oligarchy, however, needed a way to justify its betrayal of the Sultan and its assumption of Giray's rule, as well as a way to fund itself; it needed money from the people, and if they took it by force, they would be overthrown. So, they decided to make their actions sound righteous by saying that they overthrew the Last Sultan in order to restore freedom to the people, and that the Mamluks and Slave-Bureaucrats will uphold their right to be who they want to be, worship who they want, marry whatever race or gender they want, and other rights, if they would pay for the upkeep of the Slaves and endorse the taking of new ones.

Needless to say, the people of Giray accepted this bargain, and gave their money and resources to the Slave System.

How's that sound?

Sounds good, but I think we should have a couple more opinions from peeps around here. They always have good things to say

More thoughts; Giray was originally conquered/founded by one ethnic group (Nomads/Horse Archers), from which the Sultans came from. As this ethnic group grew used to sedentary/civilized life, however, their power waned and they began to fear other kinds of people, which resulted in the Sultans founding the Slave System.

More thoughts; Giray was originally conquered/founded by one ethnic group (Nomads/Horse Archers), from which the Sultans came from. As this ethnic group grew used to sedentary/civilized life, however, their power waned and they began to fear other kinds of people, which resulted in the Sultans founding the Slave System.

Hmm...nevermind.

Why nevermind? That seems fair enough

Anyways, I need to go for a little while. I'm sure other people will be on soon (@The Harbinger of Ferocity is normally always on)

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Why nevermind? That seems fair enough

Anyways, I need to go for a little while. I'm sure other people will be on soon (@The Harbinger of Ferocity is normally always on)

Bye!

And, true, that does seem fair enough.

Can someone please post in ic already? I know ik complaining and all but we left onna cliff hanger with Robert.

Can someone please post in ic already? I know ik complaining and all but we left onna cliff hanger with Robert.

Were we?

@The Fated Fallen some shafows are about to chade him. I call that a cliffhanger, its not much but i take what i can get

@The Fated Fallen some shafows are about to chade him. I call that a cliffhanger, its not much but i take what i can get

Your latest post mentioned nothing of the sort?

@The Fated Fallen Oh wait was that the wrong rp? oh shit NVM!!!!

I'm so sorry for not writing anything up over the weekend. I wasn't really feeling well and more or less took the time to clean and catch up on a few things. I will have time before I go home from work today to get something out.

One thing I noticed, while it was mentioned, no one really answered Regina ic on her idea of just sneaking by the dragon.

We are still waiting on a post from @KazeXDZ, @Belwicket do you have any information on that end? I don't want to leave without him.

As we stand now, I can post, though it isn't going to be much, @Jon Y can post. Tirarrian and Ioannes are discussing bolts as they're following Izzy. Genevieve is looking for the right moment to get Tirarrian's attention. The Red went off to find Izzy, Durin and Kayleth are still where they were with Regina? Robert walked off to get some rations for the trip, and Siegfried hasn't made a move since his post.

Is that everyone? There can be mini conversations with Regina, Durin, and Kayleth, and even Siegfried if he is still around. Robert can wander back and interact with them. And I will post something by the end of the day to interact with the 3 that have tagged along with Izzy.

One thing I noticed, while it was mentioned, no one really answered Regina ic on her idea of just sneaking by the dragon.

If I know of one thing of dragons, it is that sneaking past them without a powerful wizard is a near impossibility. Blindsense is not fun when it is used against the rogue.

I take it I can only do a small post as we're waiting on KazeXDZ

I take it I can only do a small post as we're waiting on KazeXDZ

It needn't be a small post, per say, but the plot cannot be progressed significantly without @KazeXDZ unless @IcePezz chooses to. I suggest that if you do post, elaborate on your character to give us a bit of enjoyment in our time of waiting - there's always something interesting to learn about a character, after all.

@The Harbinger of Ferocity thank you, this was pretty much what I was trying to get across.

@Jon Y you're welcome to post if you'd like. I know my character hasn't really interacted with anyone, so I haven't really given anyone much to go with. But if you'd like to post, go right ahead.

And I appear to find myself behind as usual... shall attempt to catch up tomorrow...

And I appear to find myself behind as usual... shall attempt to catch up tomorrow...

Better behind than gone, its nice to see you back

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Better behind than gone, its nice to see you back

Ty :)

Mostly back, anyways.