@Monochromatic RainbowIf you mean Rods of God kind of mechanism, such satellite systems are actually ridiculously easy to intercept. Both the projectile and just destroying the satellite before it reaches them. With all the upgrades in energy and the fact propulsion systems run on that I think nukes are going to get fairly frequent use for anything but bombing cities (since that's horrible and banned). A stray nuclear missile hitting your satellite would destroy it long before it gets into position. Rods of God are cheap only when the enemy aren't ready to blow the fuck out of your weapon systems.
Well, kinetic bombardment would be obviously a weapon of mass destruction and as such will be banned in war. So unless you're a real scum you aren't meant to use that.
Y'all real scums so we can use them
No international law governs the world now because the UN is dead. Only thing keeping people from weaponizing asteroids is that they'll fuck themselves over too. Rods are less apocalyptic so that's more usable.
If you mean Rods of God kind of mechanism, such satellite systems are actually ridiculously easy to intercept. Both the projectile and just destroying the satellite before it reaches them.
Defense systems mofo
Also you could place a god rod launcher farther out in space and missiles will have a hard time taking them out. Even though it requires a few more calculations and some waiting to put the projectile in the right track, it's worth the move.
Um, pure fusion nukes are far less polluting than kinetic bombardment. Pure fusion doesn't spread radioactive material everywhere. There's just a radiation burst, shockwave and that's it. Meanwhile your Rods of God would spread metric tons of vaporized heavy metal particles into the air which is a recognized health hazard. Maybe not as bad as old nukes but that's subjective here. Having higher mass than the nuke also mean it'd be more expensive to ship up to space and it'd spew up orders of magnitudes greater amount of dust with all its negative effects. Kunetic bombardment also has less AoE albeit much better penetration so they are better against underground shelters.
On the other hand the idea of releasing the rods from further away only makes them far easier to intercept because due to the weaker gravity it'd take exponentially more time to reach the target. Also since rods of god are unguided they require crazy precise positioning and even then they would be less accurate than guided weapons. Worse your location basically telegraphs them whwre are you intending to shoot these. Kinetic bombardment are the poor man's nuke and you can be sure that they'd be handled by prepared militaries as if they were cheap chinese toys. Kinetic bombardment would only work if you secured the space for it. Without space superiority they won't be any more than a distraction.
Sure health hazard but it's not going to make the place uninhabitable for a millenium
Pure fusion nukes still deliver cancer-inducing radiation
Kinetic bombardment is also propelled by electromagnetic mechanisms, which means it's going to be still powerful to deliver a devastating shockwave with all the kinetic energy it's carrying and is difficult to hit with their immense speed. In addition, that's why I said "more calculations" concering precision. I'm also talking not too far that the Earth is just the size of a penny compared to your hand 1 foot away, just far enough that most missiles will have a hard time intercepting them and you'll need spaceships to take the satellite down.
And since this is science fiction anyway, some things would be more or less in greater measure than in what's true to the real world.
As said: 4. Be realistic. Not too much, but keep it close.
We're trying to keep many things real to keep things balanced and in depth, but we're not going to let overrealism ruin the fun stuff here.
@UnfortunatelySay that to the Dinosaurs. Dust clouds high in the atmosphere can lead to environmrntal catastrophes including but not exclusive to mini iccice ages. Also dust powder in your lungs is a very serious healh issue, just ask people who know about volcanic catastrophes. Heavy metal particles are even worse and nah, they would contaminate the landscape for long and you won't be happy for it. Check reports on the Gulf War's efects. BTW, people are alreafy living in Hiroshima and and Chernobyl. You confuse radioactive materials with viruses and neurotoxins. Thing is dangerous but its effects are more subtle than some super lethal zone which you can't approach without dying.
Lastly, point your hair drier and laser pen at yourself, just for a minute. If you caugut cancer I am so sorry and I pay your treatment. If not then that's exactly what you can expect with pure nukes. Sure, unlucky dudes caught in the close proximity of the detination may suffer fromadiation poisoning but that's like saying frag grenades are contaminating because a stray sharpnel can wound people. Pure fusion nukes aren't exactly Disney Land and there coule complications wr didn't considered before but from what we know they are sure as hell more eco friendly than meteor impacts and kinetif bombardment.
As for launching kinetic rods via railgun mechanism. It may help but it defeats the whole point on them being cheap. The system would still cheaper per shot than a nuke but you're getting dimnishing returns. That abd you can only get so far by accelerating a multi-ton projectile. Try how crazy amount it needs by just inputing the KE formula of E= 0.5m*v^2 That and even if it's fast it ravels in a straight line for entire hours. More tnough time to predict its course and shoot it down.
I don't wish to turn this game into a number crunching science fair. I am merely giving you the correct answers.
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Regular special forces which take part in Sea, Air and land operations are trained from specially selected soldiers, sailors, marines, and airman from the regular branches they undergo a year of special training, and combat training.
A special Sect of special forces are recruited from orphans, who were left parentless from the past military conflicts. Known as the Vindicator Legion of the UAC. They are selected from the ages of 4-6, where they are trained in military knowledge, reading, writing, mathmatics, geography, cartography, shooting, physical training and basic military training for twelve hours, remainder of their time is used for sleeping and personal time. At the age of 10 they're shifted to in field tactics, they train on squad tactics and movements, hand to hand combat, stealth and explosives, improvised explosives and subterfuge. They're flown to various locations around the planet and taught how to survive and fight in multiple environments At sixteen they graduate and begin taking assignments.
The Training grounds for the VL is located deep in the outback, and heavily guarded, the training ground buildings are 350 feet underground and have anti-earthquake supports. they have underground Gardens to help support the facilities, which the children help grow in their off time. The facility is a closely guarded secret along with the VL, the facility has anti-missle and aircraft weapons along with a complete armory.
In the last decade The UAC has gained a strong economic foothold, as it recovers from the conversion to Hydrogen fuel, and other energy conservation technologies. Now selling all refined petrol from former Australian Reserves to other countries, and minerals has caused the UAC to have a temporary economic boom. The UAC has a free economic stance.
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Technological Overview: Mostly focused on renewable resources, Terraforming, Medicine, and military technologies. They use Hydrogen over gasoline, solar panels that can convert roughly 35% of the sun's energy. They rely heavily on drones for construction, military, agricultural and other uses. Most of its citizens are now involved in the tech industries.
History: After the death of Queen Elizabeth in 2018, the country fell into civil war. This is largely due to want from large group of Australians that wanted complete seperation from UK. Australia was split into East and west, this would last roughly ten bloody years until a truce was called. The truce lasted for nearly ten years until took place The Australian Conflict. The Australian conflict was several world powers fighting over Australian loyalty, land and resources. At the start of The Australian Conflict, many of its former allies fought over Australian land, due key military location and abundance of oil, and mineral resources. The australian lands turned into a bloodbath as Canadian, Chinese, United States, United Kingdom, Western Australian, and Eastern Australian, fought over land and air supremacy. Towards the end of the war, after Western Australia fell to the Eastern Side with the help of the United states, And Canadian militaries, the UK and China Withdrew their military units due fighting on multiple fronts, to high cost of overseas deployments and the war's toll on their own people, shortly after the United states, and Canada withdrew for similar reasons. Australia was once again whole but only for a short while, due to a private military organization which began to take hold in the South East. Eventually gaining momentum with the people they stepped from terrorist to government. Eventually the UAC formed, and now are at a standstill with the former Australian Government which holds out in the North Western corner of australia. Though this conflict has had the least bloodshed, only small battles, take place due to lack of resources on both sides. After five years a truce was called, to allow for the UAC and the North Western Australia to lick their wounds. The truce holds true today, though both keep up a strong military presence along the borders, occasionally a skirmish will break out though ends quickly.
U.A.C. Has a small space program on the surface, the rest of the program is based at their Space stations which orbits the moon, and another that orbits Mars. Here the U.A.C. ships can dock, do repairs and resupply.
The U.A.C. Has a small fleet of warships in their space program, consisting of about 40 ships in total. Many of the other ships are meant for colonization, scavenging, terraforming, and mining.
Warships are built similar to a knife, tall and very narrow. They're outfitted with reactive armor, 44 5" rail guns, which are fitted seamlessly into the sides of the ships. The ships also have 8, 16" rail guns that can be charged to turn the rounds into plasma. One of the large fusion reactors can be used to "super charge" the rail guns heating them up to produce bolts of plasma. Missle weapons include. 50 missile batteries, armed with nuclear and non-nuclear warheads. Main propulsion is used by venting the energy into plasma thrusters.
The Non-military ships range from small car sized drones which run off of solar energy, and use ion thrusters to move to large colony ships which have mass Cryobeds. The Cryo bed works by sedating the patient, submerging them in water which then drains the patient of blood and then placing hypodermic needles which can heat the vessels slowly then introducing blood back into the system before unfreezing the patient rapidly. Before a colony ship drones break off and check the world, before beginning set up for the new inhabitants. There are currently only five Colony ships.
U.A.C. Uses their scavenger ships to consume old satellites found in orbit around mars, the moon and the earth prior to their retrograde in the atmosphere.
Foreign policy overview: To defend the Australian people from outside threats, trade with friendly countries and regain the former Australian territory and to colonize other planets.
Military stance: purely for defense of self and allies.
Trade stance: Willing to trade with non-hostile nations.
Foreign Aid: Only in extreme circumstances, and to interfere with others as little as possible.
Covert operations: Anything to help secure the safety of the people of the U.A.C.
@UnfortunatelySay that to the Dinosaurs. Dust clouds high in the atmosphere can lead to environmrntal catastrophes including but not exclusive to mini iccice ages. Also dust powder in your lungs is a very serious healh issue, just ask people who know about volcanic catastrophes. Heavy metal particles are even worse and nah, they would contaminate the landscape for long and you won't be happy for it. Check reports on the Gulf War's efects. BTW, people are alreafy living in Hiroshima and and Chernobyl. You confuse radioactive materials with viruses and neurotoxins. Thing is dangerous but its effects are more subtle than some super lethal zone which you can't approach without dying.
Lastly, point your hair drier and laser pen at yourself, just for a minute. If you caugut cancer I am so sorry and I pay your treatment. If not then that's exactly what you can expect with pure nukes. Sure, unlucky dudes caught in the close proximity of the detination may suffer fromadiation poisoning but that's like saying frag grenades are contaminating because a stray sharpnel can wound people. Pure fusion nukes aren't exactly Disney Land and there coule complications wr didn't considered before but from what we know they are sure as hell more eco friendly than meteor impacts and kinetif bombardment.
As for launching kinetic rods via railgun mechanism. It may help but it defeats the whole point on them being cheap. The system would still cheaper per shot than a nuke but you're getting dimnishing returns. That abd you can only get so far by accelerating a multi-ton projectile. Try how crazy amount it needs by just inputing the KE formula of E= 0.5m*v^2 That and even if it's fast it ravels in a straight line for entire hours. More tnough time to predict its course and shoot it down.
I don't wish to turn this game into a number crunching science fair. I am merely giving you the correct answers.
I wrote this on the mobile phone so excuse me for the mess of typos. Anyways, like I said don't take this to heart and I agree that while realism is good we shouldn't get overboard with it. I just answered to your argument with my own. If anything seems offensive, none intended.
@Willy Vereb You actually make excellent points, and I will concede that you know more about this than I, and I haven't put a lot of thought into this, which I intend to rectify. So if my plan is Swiss cheese, I'm not surprised.
I am however, reluctant to use nukes because of their connotations, and wonder what you could suggest as an alternative to an easily interceptable weapon like a "Rod from God" and a weapon like a fusion warhead (and I am aware of fusion's lack of fallout) with the connotations it carries.
I was actually thinking spaceship batteries, but again, I haven't been able to put too much thought into military matters.
@Willy Vereb You actually make excellent points, and I will concede that you know more about this than I, and I haven't put a lot of thought into this, which I intend to rectify. So if my plan is Swiss cheese, I'm not surprised.
I am however, reluctant to use nukes because of their connotations, and wonder what you could suggest as an alternative to an easily interceptable weapon like a "Rod from God" and a weapon like a fusion warhead (and I am aware of fusion's lack of fallout) with the connotations it carries.
I was actually thinking spaceship batteries, but again, I haven't been able to put too much thought into military matters.
I think at roughly equivalent level of energy everything looks like a nuke, so the connotations would be there.
On the other hand who needs weapons of mass destruction to begin with? Their power is mostly just a waste and they are mostly good for terror. Although well if you do need a weapon for terestrial bombardment then I do suggest kinetic bombs. That is nothing but dropping random mass from space. Or if precision is required use smaller munitions but en-masse. Good'ol missiles can also help but most of the time their explosive content would be an unneded surplus for terestrial bombardment. Gravity would accelerate the misile to such speed its own KE would be greater than the energy of its explosive. They say anything at 3km/s carries its own mass in TNT explosive power. Alternatively if you have a Type IB ship (big-ass fusion reactor thus sufficient energy output) you may try to snipe down to the surface via lasers and particle weapons. Whichever makes you feel better. You can empty gigajoules of energy with ease which is kind of equal to dropping a 1000lbs bomb.
Although well if you do need a weapon for terestrial bombardment then I do suggest kinetic bombs. That is nothing but dropping random mass from space. Or if precision is required use smaller munitions but en-masse.
That's actually what I was planning basically, when I said kinetic bombardment I didn't mean WMDs and such, basically just the en masse bombardment, like naval arillery but in spaaaaaaaace.
As to the ships, the Confederation does have those, and in fact most of their military power is space based, though there's a tendency to favor kinetic energy weapons over directed energy, though they certainly do have many of the railguns that'll launch plasma projectiles.
That's actually what I was planning basically, when I said kinetic bombardment I didn't mean WMDs and such, basically just the en masse bombardment, like naval arillery but in spaaaaaaaace.
As to the ships, the Confederation does have those, and in fact most of their military power is space based, though there's a tendency to favor kinetic energy weapons over directed energy, though they certainly do have many of the railguns that'll launch plasma projectiles.
Well, if you have a Type 1B kind of ship using its full reactor output for a railgun like mechanism then you can be sure that the end result would be a stream of plasma. personally i have one such idea where a few terajoules of energy is released intantenously in a rail or coil gun system and the acceleration renders the few kilograms of tantalite into a thin stream of superheated plasma traveling at thousands of kilometers per second.
