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I sent my 90% complete profile still got a bit of work to do going to start looking for appropriate plane pictures soon and get my airforce out of the way, all of navy in imported and is out of date so I'll skip that for now.
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By the way guys! Nation history doesn't have to be a giant wall of text.
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Hurrah! I'm still learning how to use so please excuse any mistakes I make with formatting and such guys.
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Can we post the sheets here instead of PM them? It would be nice to see what land is already taken and such.
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Go ahead. As of yet only Gig put a claim down, the land mass furthest to the east.
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<Snipped quote by Theodorable>

As of right now, nothing solid but I think this might be it. Don't quote me on it tho



So is this the map we're using, then?
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Go ahead. As of yet only Gig put a claim down, the land mass furthest to the east.


this is on which map?
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So we have a map without any demographic or biome guidelines? Sigh.

And someone's claim takes up the entire continent of Usea?
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I'd like to go for the spot in red.

So we have a map without any demographic or biome guidelines? Sigh.


Before complaining, you could have taken the time to notice that it's identical to this previously posted map that has landforms included. If you read the zone names on the political map, soem are labeled as deserts and such too.

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So we have a map without any demographic or biome guidelines? Sigh.

And someone's claim takes up the entire continent of Usea?


Yes, I intend on talking to them about they amount of land they have taken.
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So we have a map without any demographic or biome guidelines? Sigh.

And someone's claim takes up the entire continent of Usea?
I'm considering not controlling the islands around it, but my civilization requires a location that is isolated from any rival power to make sense. I was originally going to take either the entire amazon rain forest or Australia. Since we are on a fantasy map though I took the closest thing to Australia which happened to be Usea, Australia in real life control 90% of Oceania so it isn't completely out of the question for me to once you read my sheet.
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<Snipped quote by Theodorable>I'm considering not controlling the islands around it, but my civilization requires a location that is isolated from any rival power to make sense. I was originally going to take either the entire amazon rain forest or Australia. Since we are on a fantasy map though I took the closest thing to Australia which happened to be Usea, Australia in real life control 90% of Oceania so it isn't completely out of the question for me to once you read my sheet.


Speaking of sheet, post it here. And as for your size, I'd really appreciate it if you would decrease the size of your nation, maybe make space for Faerie NPC nations?
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heres my claim.. looks good?
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@Louis Dabout You're fine.

I've noticed that the geographic map is a bit plain, missing things like highlands, deserts and snow. I'm giving players the ability to add these features into their country, however within reason, there will be no tundra on the equator, nor will there be rainforests in antarctica; use common sense. If you want to add a bit of ruggedness where there isn't, go ahead, or a marsh where it isn't expressly obvious, alright. But agin, common sense.
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@Voltus_VentusCan I claim Wellows for the Empire?
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Go on ahead mate!

I love how we are going against Willy by decentralizing all the powers! Love, love love it! :3
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Go on ahead mate!

I love how we are going against Willy by decentralizing all the powers! Love, love love it! :3


lol XD

I might lay claim to some of the islands to the west of it if no one else takes them. Wannabe Japan also needs its wannabe islands :P
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History


Though the species showed some degree of intelligence there lack of any kind notable verbal or written language and there size made the idea of them being sentient a distant idea. Even upon the discovery of hollowed out trees and mounds that the Fay has constructed themselves didn't impress the settlers for many insect species where capable of equal or superior feats of construction. Even supposed accounts of Fay harvesting honey from Bee hives where explained away by other species such as hornets doing the same the very idea of the Fay raising the Bees as livestock was simply unthinkable. This lack of understanding possibly saved there culture from extermination for the settlers didn't see them as a rival that needed to be removed a fate that had befallen many other cultures that had stood in the way of this wave of migration. Instead the Fay where looked upon as a curiosity a potentially useful animal similar to a cat or a dog. The settlers had seen the Fays intelligence after all the Fay had taken advantage of the settlers. The towns and ports in which the settlers had made there homes had become perfect hunting grounds for small insects that the Fay favoured as supplementary meals in there diets, and the settlers saw some use in this small creatures. The settlers needed something to send back home, the promised wealth of the new world had been less than imagined and the settlers desperately needed something to have made the venture worthwhile and that something turned out to be the Fay. Capturing specimens had been relatively easy the creatures where small and numerous in the Americas and where more or less harmless due to there tiny size. The Fay where a hit in the homeland, the creatures cute appearance, practical function at removing small pests, low maintenance and friendly disposition made them incredibly popular pets especially among woman and children. In less than a century the Fairy had become by far the most popular pet among Elvish families even the Emperor himself had a small colony of the creatures living within the palace brought in at the behest of his daughters. Just how intelligent the Fay where was first discovered by the now famous scientist Hîr Tebaroah Bacitiuh, a lesser elven noble, who claimed that his pet Fairy Scarlet was capable of not only holding a conversation in elvish but also being capable of reading and writing Elvish perfectly. Marveled by his discovery he published his findings in the year 1531 with high hopes, his papers where universally slandered by his peers. It was a well known fact that the Fay where good at imitation it was one of the many novelties that had made them popular pets but the idea that it was anything more than imitation was preposterous and Tebaroah Bacitiuh career was all but over any respect he may have had stripped away.

1648-1650 was a dark time for the The Heavenly Empire of Yllendthyr, years of oppression and mistreatment by there elven master had caused the majority human population to break out in revolt chaos ravaged the empire as human rebels classed with the imperial military. Desperate for resources both sides began to viciously harvest the colonies vast rain forests, wood was an important resource it was used in the construction of the rebels muskets, imperial bows and arrows as well as ships, spear shafts and last but no means least construction of bases and camps. This ceaseless destruction of there home brought about a change in the local Fay, for over 200 years the Fay had welcomed the settlers for there settlements had brought with them value perfect safe hunting grounds for the small insects that the fey needed for protean. But this sudden aggression was unacceptable the settlers had leveled countless settlements and killed thousands of there kind without provocation, all attempts to communicate with the titans had been fruitless for they where incapable of understanding them. Even the few who could understand and speak the strange verbal language of the titans where ignored or where treated condescendingly like some trained animal preforming a trick. There was only one option left to the peaceful Fay violence descending from the rain forest like a swarm of locus. The vast swarm attacked both parties indiscriminately armed with nothing more than small spears crafted from the thorns of plants and coated in the poison of the most dangerous animal the rain forest had to offer. The sudden aggression of the Fay took both parties by surprise. At first both sides continued to fight, the Fay merely became another natural hazard of the forest and even with the sheer numbers of the creatures insects where still just insects. Neither side knew what they where truly dealing with the Fay where not mindless insects as the giants had assumed in there ignorance. For the Fay where just as intelligent and cunning as the best of the titans, Launching countless raids upon both the rebel and imperial forces had hit both armies hard seeing a hopeless fight against nature the imperials retreated to there ships a tactical withdraw until they could figure out what to do reports needed to be sent.

The rebels thought it a victory, they had driven off the imperial forces and they could deal with the local wildlife and regain control, they where wrong despite there size the Fay had an overwhelming advantage. The imperial general Lerlebt Tagnett had quickly realised this the attacks of the Fay where not akin to a mindless swarm of wasps that had lashed out upon those that had disturbed there nest. The attacks where tactical the creatures where not only attacking strategic locations such as supply camps, and ports they also knew exactly where and when to attack. He had witnessed it with his own eyes as the tiny Fay brought down soldiers 50x there size threw coordinated teamwork it would have been awe inspiring if not for the circumstances. Lerlebt Tagnett knew he had been defeated he had been glad that he recognized the true threat his men faced in his report he emphasized that he believed that wasting resources fighting this new threat would be pointless. He believed that the Fay's hostility in the new world made the area dangerous and the resources required to even have a chance to benefit from the territory where well beyond the rebel's capacity to support. Over next 2 years the rebels in the new world where constantly harassed, there supposed hold over the colonies had done them little in the war in the empire. The war had become more or less centered upon the homelands in the east. Logging had become all but impossible even approaching the rainforest was incredibly dangerous as Fay ambushes could be sprung without warning leading to heavy casualties. The most disturbing thing for the men of the colonies wasn't the fact that the wildlife had become hostile it was what the wildlife was capable of there had been reports. Reports of the Fay doing the impossible making use of stolen or looted muskets and pistols, it was impossible the creatures where far too small to even lift the weapons to make use of them, they weren’t even supposed to be intelligent but they had all seen what the Fay had done. Mounting the stolen weaponry upon tiny carriages built by the Fay themselves they had created tiny makeshift Fay cannons which they had used to deadly effect against the rebel forces. The rebels had tried multiple times to flush out the Fay but finding the creatures was near impossible the terrain favoured them massively the Fay had evolved in the rainforests and where perfectly adapted to survival in this land something the humans where not. There none verbal means of communication allowed them to plan attacks in complete silence something the rebels where incapable of it was a war few could hope to win.

Eventually in 1650 the civil war in Yllendthyr ended with both sides reaching a compromise, and for another year the colonies remained under constant threat from Fay attacks. Any opposition to the species sentience had been dismissed as the reports from the colonies had begun to flood back home and soon the research of Tebaroah Bacitiuh had become a topic great interest among the scholar elite. War with the Fay simply wasn't an option for Yllendthyr the civil war had made her weak, she needed time to recover and the de-facto loss of the colonies was a blow, left with but option the elves did what the elves did best they resorted to diplomacy. Diplomacy hadn't been easy the strange Fay creatures language was beyond the elves ability to understand though they had learned the basics of the language and how it worked thanks to the works Tebaroah. It had still proven impossible for the elves to read it they simply lacked the means to differentiate subtleties in shades which they had learned could cause huge misunderstandings. Making use of a former pet Fay that had identified herself as Greeny Yellow house servant. A Fay that lived in Yllendthyr as the pet of a university teacher of Elvish language. The diplomat Hiril Sa'rea Goodnelh had discovered that the creature was capable of understanding every word in the elven language a feat her owner had been very proud of but unwilling to reveal fearing scrutiny. Greeny Yellow preformed admirably she had managed to quickly contact her kind in the rainforest the local Fay and had managed to persuade them to meet with the Hiril Sa'rea. Using Greeny Yellow Fay translator (name change due to job change) Sa'rea made incredible progress as she explained threw her translator the situation that had to current events to the local Fay lead by one Purple Princess queen to be. Purple Princess queen to be had been satisfied with Sa'rea's explanation of events, Sa'rea had used logic to point out the long peace with there peoples that had lasted over 200 years, and that hostility had broken out not due to the actions of the elves but of a rebel faction of humans. Sa'rea further emphasised how the imperial army had retreated not wishing to cause further loss of life among both parties Purple accepted the explanation for she herself had witnessed the retreat of the imperial army. After a day of negotiations both had parties had agreed to cease hostilities, and further negotiations where conducted Sa'rea had completed her objective of restoring peaceful relations with the Fay, but Sa'rea was ambitious like all elves she strived for success. Continuing negotiations for another 2 days Sa'rea secured exclusive fishing rights for Yllendthyr in the region, in addition she had persuade Purple to grant Yllendthyr co-ownership of a strip of land on the coast that roughly corresponded with the old colonies.

The deal had been a huge success in return Purple had requested three things:
1. Purple Princess Queen to be desired to learn more about the Elves and the world requesting that the elves send individuals to educate her people on various topics ranging from verbal language to science.
2. To allow trade with her people the Princess wishing to trade for the strange shiny material the elves used in the construction of some of there items.
3. That her people be allowed to continue to work within the boundaries of the empire free of discrimination, Purple had been pleased to hear from Greeny Yellow Elvish Translator of the kind and just treatment her people had received within the empire.

Hiril Sa'rea Goodnelh agreed to all terms of treaty and in year 1651 of the 17th day of the 6th month by the power invested in her by state of Yllendthyr on behalf of his holiness ruler and sovereign of the Empire of Yllendthyr the Emperor, Sa'rea signed the treaty. Hiril Sa'rea Goodnelh received near universal praise for her diplomacy armed but with words and her own intellect Sa'rea had regained much that had been lost in the civil war and brought an entire people under the sway of the empire.



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Appearance:
Fairy's look somewhat like tiny elves with beautifully coloured wings, and exotically coloured skin and hair with green, blue, pink, teal, red, purple, being the most common in that order and with it being most common to have matching skin and hair.



Biology:
According to the studies of Charles Dwarfwin from the last century, Fairy, The Fay or Dolarpapilo are believed to have evolved from a now extinct species of Lepidoptera, there closest living relative being Morpho peleides. Fairy's are a unique strange species. They are by far the smallest known species that have attained true sentience a fact that had been originally overlooked upon first contact by Elven and human settlers of the Americas. Fairies have evolved very differently from most of the vertebrate races that inhabit the world the most notable being there minuscule size with the average height for both genders being a mere 1.6 inches tall with the largest known specimen being an exceptionally large male individual called Oberon who was documented to be just over 2inches tall. The other major evolutionary feature of the Fay is there means of communication though capable of verbal speech due to an evolutionary trait that allows them to perfectly mimic around 72% of sounds they hear. This feature though had never been used for communication between individuals until the arrival of other sapient species to there homeland roughly 418 years ago. Until then the Fay used there beautiful wings and superior eyesight for communication, as was discovered by the famous Charles Dwarfwin the Fay are capable of seeing ultraviolet light which allows them to see colours that humans and even elves can't even comprehend. This combined with the Fay's ability to alter the patten and colouration of there wings allowed them to communicate with members of there species. It has been noted by observation that each possibly combination of colour possesses a completely different meaning, even the slightest variation in shade or order in which colours are displayed can cause what appears to be two identical pattens to mean completely different things altogether.

Fay breed normally happens during the summer a male will seek out the most beautiful object he can find traditionally a flower once a suitable object has been found he will create a nest on the object in question. (Some modern Fay may instead create an artificial nest) Once a suitable object is claimed he will sing by combining the most interesting sounds that he has heard in his life in an attempt to attract a female to his flower. Once a female responds and find him she will first begin by inspecting the male and his choice of nest this allows the female to determine both the males physique and intelligence. If he has selected a poor nest or is found to be lacking physically she will leave the male who will continue to sing until a female accepts him. If the female finds him and his selection of nest pleasing she will begin the courtship ritual by mimicking his song while using her wings to converse with him to learn as much about him as possible. After learning as much as she desires the Female will land upon the nest and will offer herself to the male and mating will begin. After mating has been completed the Female will lay between 40 – 60 eggs. After she finishes laying she will rest while the chosen male leaves to find food for his mate and young. The eggs take roughly a week to hatch into tiny caterpillars 5mm in size. In the days before the hatching the father will spend his entire time searching for food trying to amass enough too feed his young and mate for the entire pre-infancy period roughly 14 days. Over the next 14 days the caterpillars will spend there every waking hour consuming food growing constantly until eventually they will be ready to enter there chrysalis at this point the caterpillars will be around 1cm in size. The caterpillars will remain in the chrysalis for up to 7 days after which they will emerge as tiny infant fay 2 - 4mm tall. Once the last of her young emerges the mother will leave the nest with her young brood to find a suitable permanent home for her large family. Leaving the father behind who will either return to his home or will seek another mate depending on his mood.

Language:
The Fay language is based upon the use of colours every single colour and shade has a meaning within the Fay language, and the written language is also based upon this. Many Fay roughly 69% are also capable of speaking New Elvish which is by far the most common verbal language known by the species despite it being so widely known it almost never used for conversing with another member of the species outside of use in the military on radio.

Naming:
Fay names are based upon colours which are approximate translations from there own colour based language Fay will normally also give a description of the colour in an attempt to differentiate themselves from other Fay. The reason for this being there aren't words to describe every shade of colour used by the Fay, for an example there are over 11'000 names in the Fay language which will translate into Pink which would make it the most common verbal name among the Fay.

Surnames are normally based upon the individuals occupation, examples:
Reddy Brown Beekeeper,
Pinky Purple chief engineer of landship,
Not to Dark Green housekeeper,
Navy Blue pair farmer,
Light Teal Elvish language teacher
Not very dark Crimson innkeeper

Religion:
The Fay worship a pair of deities known as the twins one male and one female, Setra the divine mother goddess of warmth, and bringer of life she is worshiped during summoner and spring by the fay who idolise her above all others her loving rays of light bringing great joy to her mortal children, the fay believe that Setra either reside within or is embodied by the sun itself.

Malacar lord of the cold night, is a deity who is worshiped during the months of autumn and winter, unlike Setra Malacar is a god feared and respected by the fay due to his cold indifference towards his children, Malacar is the opposite of his consort Setra for while she is a blazing beacon of life and hope he is a void of cold and despair, the fay believe that Malacar resides within the moon.

Government:
The Kingdom's government is a constitutional monarchy lead by there queen, The current Queen Violet Queen (her surname is unique as such she doesn't go into detail on her first name as most Fay do) has reigned for the past 22 years, she is a beloved monarch who has maintained the long peace with the Empire Yllendthyr, while simultaneously attempting to open trade and bring about good relation with the other nation states of the world despite the numerous difficulties other races have with taking the Fay seriously she has been successful in this endeavour so far. The Kingdom of Setra is divided into 6 million communities of various sizes which are placed within the jurisdiction of 600,000 counties each lead by an elected governor, which are in turn divided into 60,000 provinces each lead by an elected minister. These minister form the parliament of the kingdom and from among there ranks the Queen will select a prime minster whose duty is to advise the queen on all matters of importance and sometimes even rule in her absence. Due to the sheer size of this parliament decisions are not come to by vote but the absolute decree of the queen, a minister duty is simply to convey the desires, wishes and worries of the people of his province. Upon the death of the queen she is succeeded by whom is believed to be her most talented daughter several candidates will be selected based upon there achievements and how well they excelled in there education. Once the list has been shortened to 100 or so individuals parliament will vote on whom they believe will make the most suitable queen.

Economy/Technology/Industry

The Fay economy is based primarily based around micro industry, Farming, the raising of livestock licensing fishing and tourism and the exporting of such resources.

Licensing of fishing:
A very large industry within the kingdom of Setra and once the backbone of the the state during the early modern period the fishing industry is primary located within the Yllendthyr co-operation zone a small strip of territory on the coast of the kingdom governed jointly by the Kingdom of Setra and the Empire Yllendthyr. The co-operation zone has the highest population of none Fay in the Kingdom with an estimated 970,000 elves and 2.4 million humans calling the region home which makes up less than 1% of the regions total population. The majority of the none Fay population are career fisherman harvesting the fish for shipment to the Empire of Yllendthyr who rent the rights to fish in the kingdoms waters.

Farming:
The Fay are are an omnivorous species, who primary eat vegetation there diet primarily consists of sweet foods such as honey, fruits such as apples, pairs and oranges and nectar from flowers. The Fay are experts at growing such produce and raising Bees for collecting honey both for there own consumption and export. In the Fay society bees hold a special place taking on a role similar to that of domesticated sheep or cows within other society. It is almost unheard of for a Fay settlement that doesn't have its own Bee hive/ranch and honey is by far the most popular food within the kingdom.

Micro industry:
The king of Fay industries something that has set the Fay apart from all nations is there absolute mastery over producing of all things small. It is hard to find a technical device that doesn't have something built or manufactured in the kingdom such is there undisputed skill at manufacturing such items. While not necessary a unique skill other races are easily capable of building small moving parts but none are able to do it with the ease or as naturally as the Fay. Due to there small size it is natural for the Fay to build items at such sizes allowing them to create micro sized parts without the aid of the large machinery that other races must employ.

Heavy Industry:
There mastery in the field of Micro industry has not come without its price while the undisputed master of making small moving parts and internal devices for items such as clocks. The Fay are severely lacking in any kind of heavy industry there small size making very much unsuitable for preforming the tasks. Such industry is generally limited to the Yllendthyr co-operation zone and even then the industry is small due to the small population for which it could draw its work force. Due to this over 85% of heavy industrial items as well as raw materials are imported from abroad traded for the micro sized parts crafted by the Fay.

Military


Infantry
Fay infanty are one the most advanced form of infantry the world has ever seen while other species arm there soldiers with rifles and grenades and call them soldiers. The Fay are incapable of such a luxury if the armies of Setra where armed in such away there enemies would laugh as harmless 4cm tall people swarmed at the soldiers armed with weapon that make children peashooters look like formidable weapons in comparison. As such the Fay do not arm there soldiers in the traditional sense but instead make use of infantry combat mech a device that makes other races children and even some adult cry with envy. For it is not the dream of many to pilot giant mechanized suits of pure mithril and steel wading into the enemies of your people bringing justice to those who dare bring to death to your countrymen. Alas this a dream out of the reach of all but the Fay for the sheer requirements to build such machines are all but impossible. Unless your idea of giant mecha is within the bounds possible for modern science to create the mk4 infantry combat mecha is a 7 foot tall machine built by the Fay to act as infantry. The machine is a technological marvel thousands of moving parts and pistons allow the machine a high degree of agility on par with the laziest sloth while granting it physical power that would make an enraged grizzly think twice. Armed with a large blast shield and a powerful 33mm chain gun. The mk4 has the fire power far beyond any regular infantry employed by another state with durability to match. So what is the catch cost the mk4 is far more expensive to build than simply giving a soldier a rifle and a weeks training. Even the most elite and well equipped troops of other nation don't even come close to the cost of a mk4. Despite this Setra is more than happy that the Mk4 is a weapon at there disposal and thousands of these machines have already been produced allowing the Fay to match the size of there enemies.

Name: Titan Mk4A Infantry combat mecha
Size: 7 feet
weight: 2.5 ton
armament: 33mm chain gun x1, blast shield with spike x1
power plant: classified
Crew: 30
top speed: 5mph
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Name: Titan Mk4B Anti tank combat mecha
Size: 7 feet
weight: 3 ton
armament: 50mm anti tank cannon x1
power plant: classified
Crew: 35
top speed: 4mph
Appearance: Same as the Titan Mk4A but the chaingun is replaced by a anti tank cannon and the shield has been replaced by a crane like arm used for reloading the cannon.

Name: Titan Mk4C Infantry combat mecha
Size: 7 feet
weight: 2.3 ton
armament: 33mm chain gun x1, grenade launcher x1
power plant: classified
Crew: 35
top speed: 5mph
Appearance: Same as Titan mk4A shield having been replaced with grenade launcher for superior firepower.

Tanks:
Name: Stagbeetle Mk2 landship (Light Tank)
Size:
Length: 6.69m
Width: 3.02 m
Height: 3.24m
weight: 24ton
armament: 45mm cannon x1, 85mm anti infantry mortar x1 9mm anti infantry machine gun x1
power plant:
Engine power: 330hp/1800rpm
top speed: 27mph
Crew: 450
appearance:


Name: Hercules Mk3 landship (Medium Tank)
Size:
Length: 5.95m
Width: 3.35m
Height: 2.98m
weight: 38ton
armament: 75mm cannon x1, 85mm anti infantry mortar x1, 9mm anti infantry machine gun x3
power plant: classified
engine power: 550hp/2150rpm
top speed: 23mph
Crew: 500
appearance:


Name: Hercules Mk3B tank hunter (Tank)
Size:
Length: 5.95m
Width: 3.35m
Height: 2.98m
weight: 40ton
armament: 85mm cannon x1, 45mm cannon x2, 9mm machine gun x1
power plant: classified
engine power: 550hp/2150rpm
top speed: 21mph
Crew: 500
appearance: Same chassis as the regular Hercules, the mortar and machine gun turret having been replaced with a pair of 45mm cannons, while the main gun has been up sized to a 85mm cannon.

Aircraft:
Name: Dragonfly Mk1 skyfortress (heavy fighter)
Size:
Length: tba
Width: tba
Height: tba
weight: tba
armament:Turret mounted Twin 7mm machineguns x4
power plant:
engine power:
top speed: 310mph
Crew: 2000
appearance:The picture below isn't completely accurate the aircraft is propeller driven. The 2 propeller engines are located where the 4 jet engines are on the picture.
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I will be plonking my claim on Canero and the surrounding islands, just not the big one.
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