Lel, I personally believe the starks are your best choice, followed my merc captain then king beyond the wall. Send those fucking iron men screaming back to their island and join King Tyger in crushing the Tyrells!... *cough*

Now now, we Ironborn mean you no harm... ok, I lied. My personal opinion would be to take on the Starks but I am of course quite biased on the matter :P

@Major Ursa I checked that sheet, it said the North has 45 thousand, in a hundred years the population would go up by at least 5 thou.

I'd suggest you take the Starks

*grumbles to himself as he dons the Stark Banner*

I get some concessions for this suicide move. In the few centuries since game of thrones, the Boltons have been removed, forcibly, from the Dreadfort and given to a House that will not backstab me like a mofo. The Wolfswood has been considerably reduced in size in an effort to rebuild the North and to ensure a naval presence on both sides of the continent.

And under no circumstance will my Lord take any offers to be Hand of the King, move to Kingslanding, refuse to play the game of Thrones, or attend any weddings without an armed contingent nearby.

WE LEARNED OUR LESSON THE LAST TIME. These concessions are all common sense sort of things, that based on our history, the House Stark should hold to its very FREAKING beliefs (considering we were almost wiped off the map).

Any issue with this?

@bluetommy2No, I don't doubt that the population would rise some, even in the North. The Vale, being mountainous, has a comparative population growth...but I wouldn't mind keeping to the original projected numbers.

@Dawnscroll None, except that Tyron Lannister's father was killed by the Boltons, so they'd have to be removed recently.

@Dawnscroll None, except that Tyron Lannister's father was killed by the Boltons, so they'd have to be removed recently.

Right. Roose and Ramsay got exterminated hard, and the title of Bolton passed to a more "Minor" Bolton house, who hopefully learned their lesson from the Wolves. The fact that they're still being allowed to do their flaying means has to imply some sort of knowledge, and condoning, by the Starks.

Point is, I think after the close-extermination in the War of the Five Kings, the Starks have sort of revised their motto. Winter Is Coming - AKA Shit will hit the fan. They've sort of turned into a very defensive, very close to the chest sort of House. The "doomsday" preparedness sort of House.

Which means we've finally gotten our heads out asses... heck, our motto isn't "As High as Honor".

@Dawnscroll Well, that sounds fun, a ruthless Iron Islands, an even more ruthless Westerlands, an honorable Reach, an even more honorable Vale, a neutral Riverlands, and a xenophobic North, wonder what's next.

The Reach would have had a serious boom in population. It's Malthusian Dynamics (choose to believe them or not, I have my issues with it), more food, more people, it means that even if there were surpluses, more people are born to basically either use that grain or make more. It's weird to explain it in full, but TLDR, the Reach should be booming in population, especially with the stability that is there. Though I would imagine that while I would be tempted to say that their armies would be bigger, the only reason they aren't is due to peace. In every other Kingdom, there has been war, civil and with little disputes, the rebuililding or creation of houses being responsible. In the Reach? That hasn't happened.

Plus Garland is being a bastard-making machine. Well, he hasn't gotten any hate mail/boxes with babies inside yet, I can imagine that he is basically seen as being this kind of fellow that Reachwomen find really dashing. Hey, it's Flowering Season in the Reach :P ...that is such a terrible joke, I don't even know if I should make it. None have come back, it's kinda like they're humbled to have sex with you know, their handsome young Lord...

(I should say, if you are displeased or dislike Garland's behaviour, go down to your local Nightclub. Hey, I speak what I see :D )

@bluetommy2

The Rose has thorns. It may be the heart of Chivalry, but remember, with people like Alerie, she is the Rose of Thorns. They have honour, but remember, it is to themselves, to their people, and nobody else. They are playing the game as much as anyone else, and while they know it's a big ask, they are basically going to do what they will, quietly and with the most careful dictation that they can. They are charitable, kind, brave and good noble people, they really are, but underneath that, you find people who are driven to protect their own, protect those who ought to be worthy of their protection, and fuck everyone else.

@kingkonrad That makes sense, and the books state that the Reach has the healthiest peasantry in the Seven, so that'd help.

@kingkonrad That makes sense, and the books state that the Reach has the healthiest peasantry in the Seven, so that'd help.

It's a Fairytale Kingdom. It genuinely is. It doesn't get half the coverage that the Lannisters, Baratheons or Tullys do, because it's so fucking nice. You couldn't set GoT from the Reach's perspective UNLESS it had heavy amounts of King's Landing in it, because it's so fucking pleasant. This is what makes me a bit sad, because they really stick out as the best characters, a real beautiful mixture of deviance and just pure cool. I enjoy the North, with their honour, but for me, it's the Reach, if it wasn't so fucking opposed to the darkness of everything else, it would be far more interesting to see.

Oh, and they have a lot of wine too. Arbor Gold is like the Carlsberg of Westeros, I could only mentally imagine :P

@DawnscrollHONOR, always honor!
Though, it's a hell of a lot easier to be defensive if your region is the Vale.

@Major Ursa All those fucking mountains man! You're lucky there's no volcanoes, or else you'd have a real bad time.

I just can't wait to start showing Tyget's planw... cause they aren't as si please as they seem right now ;), also OTHER than wealth what are the westerlands known for?

High as Honor. Lovely words, in some ways, I do think I would like the Vale more if I did a little more research into it. I do love that scene from GoT, where Olenna Tyrell basically says that the Tyrell words are kinda a bit shit compared to everyone else's.

"When a Tyrell farts, it smells of roses" is what comes to mind.

@agentmanatee Rocks rocks and more rocks, there's not much to it.

@kingkonrad I doubt Mace Tyrell's farts smelt of roses I'll tell you that.

@agentmanatee

Incest? :P

They have Lannisport. Which without a shadow of a doubt, is the most significant port city in Westeros bar King's Landing, the second largest population too. It's a significant store of everything, no doubt, it's a beating heart that circulates it's wealth to the Riverlands and even to the less accessible part of the North-Western Reach.

And Garland has plans too, well rather, his sister does...

@kingkonrad can't wait to see them

I'm waiting to post after the tullys and tyrlls next post. Then the westerlands march to war

@agentmanatee

Incest? :P

They have Lannisport. Which without a shadow of a doubt, is the most significant port city in Westeros bar King's Landing, the second largest population too. It's a significant store of everything, no doubt, it's a beating heart that circulates it's wealth to the Riverlands and even to the less accessible part of the North-Western Reach.

And Garland has plans too, well rather, his sister does...

One day we Ironborn will sail on Lannisport. We'll take what we want and burn the rest. It will be a glorious day...

@bluetommy2After reading up on the Vale, I just imagine every household has a stock of scented candles, and that they hold cheesy pumpkin growing contests every few years.

@kingkonrad Forgot about that damn city, wish we saw more of it, orange landscape against a gold sun, it's like the midwest.

@Vhagar Shots fired.