@bloonewb

In the words of the great, mostly dead philosopher 2Pac, if I were Garland.........I don't give a fuck. *breaks into 90s Gangsta Rap*

To be honest, from my own viewpoint on the outside of this, Gris isn't going to be liked by his own people, Dorne, the Reach, and in turn, maybe even Rhaenyra as a result of that influence, a bit of Rule 5 coming into play here- it might be a situation he can't do. He'd be a great maester, but as a Lord, he's seen as mad, or extremely easy to manipulate...which could just be his sister anyway for day-to-day affairs. A Lord isn't the priority for intervention, it's only an alliance of military, political and other uses that Garland wants, not Gris...so if he can, he will get rid of him, forcibly or with some mercy, and actually, is very likely to be the latter. This isn't the end of you playing if it were to occur- actually, it means that other characters around Gris suddenly become far more important, far more manipulative, and dare we speak the word, the most outrightly shitty act of Kinslaying can begin to unravel themselves as Gris is seen as incompetent at running a Kingdom. There is a lot on the plate- it's just realizing that Gris is already in the deep shit for being who he is, and from an external perspective, it'd be difficult to climb out of that without outright giving into the Red God or sucking it and seeing. Garland WILL be in deep shit when, not if, he makes an error, and knowing that this is GoT, he is going to, and someone is going to take his head.

Garland will want an equivalent that actually has a gregarious and proactive lord, to match his own nature if he wants to not worry about measly revolts. It's terrifying shit, but to be honest, it's to be expected. Garland doesn't care for knowledge, anyway, he cares for being a chivalrous motherfucker, women, falcons*, wine, tourneys, and his work as a Lord Hand and being a fucking husk inbetween all these to run his own Kingdom. An ally is there not for knowledge, in his view- he wants a Kingdom that loyally follows the Crown, HIS instated crown, and even if Gris did say yes, is Garland going to want to constantly fight rebellions indirectly supported by Dorne, rather than the Crakehalls?

*It hasn't been shown a lot, but due to Garland being a fucking husk in writing letters to people, he hasn't done any falconry in the Rosewood. Tangent here- I hope the Rosewood is a nice way of explaining why there's a wood about the quarter of the size of the Kingswood outside the eastern side of Highgarden.

Also, I just realized on that death list, Garland's dignity is on there. I fucking ROFL'd.

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From my knowledge, technology doesn't really move on a lot in the Seven Kingdoms. I've set it that the Tyrell Retinues are an idea basically directly pinched from the Mid to Late Medieval Era, something like Henry V or Henry VI would have had in their armies, alongside vassal forces. The trade, and the whole idea of The Reach in this time, all of it, is like what Southern France would have looked like in that sort of period of the mid 1300s/early 1400s, it's becoming a real powerhouse, it's taking on a hell of a lot of progress but actually, the tech for gunpowder, and all the associated Renaissance, is just simply not there. There's no Ancient texts to kick it off, for a start, and if there was any tech progresses, I would imagine it is very, very slow compared to our world. This is Westeros after all- and there is a tad more focus on the mysteries, such as raising people from the dead, and so on and so on.

@kingkonrad You're right, I guess. At the moment, the future doesn't take precedence over the present. Most likely, Alyssa will attempt to discuss an alliance and Gris won't even show his face. After all, Alyssa does most of the actual ruling anyways.

Also, Henry the 6th ruled in the 1450s, and by 1492, Columbus stumbles upon that north american island. The renaissance might be closer than you think.

@bloonewb No huge techy advances, but magic is back, so that's cool.

Magic? Wait, like...not the old-school shit of the First Men? Possibly? Or just dragons, Red God, and so on?

@kingkonrad All three, dragons are magic heralds basically, once they come, magic is soon to follow.

are we talking magic, as in cool evocations with fireballs, or Magick, the mysterious darker version? They're not exactly the same thing.

I'd like to announce that @kingkonrad is my first Co-GM. All hail.

@bloonewb Both

Holy shitballs. Well, whoever masters that first is going to have some mindbending power. If you're not a Targaryen, you better have a great understanding of a fucking book and copious mental capacity to wield such power. Well, Gris might have SOME reason to live, but what I mentioned earlier is still in force, for ignorance's sake...

And yay, Co-GM. Valar Dohaeris, mo'fuckers.

Magick was used more commonly in the show (with the exception of dragons), seeing as how it was something to be feared, rather than in say D&D or WOW, it was seen more as a tool.

ITs really more mysteriousand shit, even at its prime

As far as I know, GoT is one of the few mediums where Magic is genuinely fucking mindblowing. Most of the acts of the Red God, mindblowing. That is what magic is meant to be, it's meant to be...fucking, magical. You know, like you couldn't literally do it for real with any resource you have, hence it has to be magic, and the people who do it aren't just some Mage, they're fucking legends in their own right in some way for being able to perform it. An Arthur C. Clarke quote comes to mind in relevance to this, but still, it's an incredibly feared and scary thing to see, because in a world that is for the most part, much like Medieval England, plus dragons and other crazy stuff, you have that factor in.

Also, next time. If it's not a hindrance i'd like to be brought in to type up Edrick's posts and words on a Collab. :) Not that you guys did him wrong personality wise but yea. <3

kingkonrad, first of his name. Co-GM of the players, and of the characters. Lord of the 44 posts, and protector of the server. Hail!

@bloonewb Long may he reign!

It's the moment you realize Danerys Targaryen's title when read aloud takes up half a minute of speech, that you may have TOO many titles to your name. But yep, I'll take it on.

That moment you realize Daenys' name is a feminine name in High Valyrian.

I am alright with there being more dragons. Though, the eggs would no doubt be under heavy lock and key, or lost, or already hatched and doing as they please. From my readings, the Targaryen family kept the Dragon Eggs they possessed as the most precious of treasures. The eggs were usually placed in cribs, hatching next to the child they were placed next to.

You are the GM, and therefore, God. Do as you please, and whatever you feel is best.

There is Drogon, if I remember. I'll need to find that post, but as I vaguely remember, he is fucking huge.

It is also why there is about 1,000 men sitting in front of that gate. It's incredible power that dragons have...no sane man would say it isn't.

There would be Drogon, Rhaegal, and Viseron as Danaerys original three, Drogon is still around and kicking, being close to his maximum age, as they don't live very far beyond 200. So, the original trifecta of Dragons are definitely the greybeards, and may go at any time, if not already having passed. That means the newer generations of dragons are the ones to be looking for. My two are both three years old, leaving perhaps a handful of others that are out and about. For those, their whereabouts are up to the head honcho, if they are currently controlled by a rider, have gone rogue, or just flew off into the sunset, so to speak.

That leaves the newest batch of eggs, being roughly 3 years old, left, if not any older ones, whose whereabouts are not fully known. Based on traditional European Dragons, they lay 3 to 5 eggs roughly every 10 years. Your call on this one GM and Co-GM.