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That's great, looking forward to it. The dark side at this point needs all the help it can get. We're starting to look outnumbered.


This made me laugh because Rach, depending on her influences, can lean toward either bad or good. Her personality doesn't make it really that hard for her to be a baddie and her history gives her a primary excuse for it really. I think Hero had to ask if I had plans to turn Rach into a villain at one point which I answered: Depends on those she's mostly connected to.
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All we need is a sample post and it is accepted.

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All we need is a sample post and it is accepted.


I'm fine with doing that, but I thought you only needed a sample for your first app?
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I'm fine with doing that, but I thought you only needed a sample for your first app?


Hmm...for some strange reason I thought that was a rule in another superhero roleplay. Heck, I will wait for NMS to accept it, but Hekate has passed by "Athanatoi" test.
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Hmm...for some strange reason I thought that was a rule in another superhero roleplay. Heck, I will wait for NMS to accept it, but Hekate has passed by "Athanatoi" test.


I'll wait for him to chime in no problem, but just to bring it to your attention, the OP says the following:

Sample Post (Minimum Four paragraphs containing dialogue. As this is an Advanced Level game, Sample must also meet the RPG forum's minimum requirement of 12 lines. Only for first time applicants.)

Not trying to get out of writing a sample, lol. Just making sure we know that it's on there and whether or not it should be.
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Confused Ded is confused.
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I'll wait for him to chime in no problem, but just to bring it to your attention, the OP says the following:

Sample Post (Minimum Four paragraphs containing dialogue. As this is an Advanced Level game, Sample must also meet the RPG forum's minimum requirement of 12 lines. Only for first time applicants.)

Not trying to get out of writing a sample, lol. Just making sure we know that it's on there and whether or not it should be.


Well, looks like I did think that rule was for another roleplay. Therefore, Hekate is accepted.

Confused Ded is confused.


*gives VATROU the evil eye*
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Hmm...for some strange reason I thought that was a rule in another superhero roleplay. Heck, I will wait for NMS to accept it, but Hekate has passed by "Athanatoi" test.


*pats Ded on the back* There, there.
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@VATROU With Nightmare and the Cowl, I feel like all the heroes do is fail.


To be fair with the Cowl, everyone who has tried to track him down didn't 'fail' just something else happened to them. Out of the three people who specifically called out the Cowl, Ares got beat by Athena before he got the chance, Equilibrium was captured by STRIKE, and Lyger's now embroiled in Pax Metahumana. The only one who still has a beef with him is the Cancer, and we haven't been focusing on a gang war because The Cowl has been primarily focused on keeping his operations in the dark.

It's not like it's going to be easy, but The Cowl's one big success is his smuggling job so far. I'm hoping his open bounty on Jack Grey's head will cause some commotion, but one can only wait and see.

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This made me laugh because Rach, depending on her influences, can lean toward either bad or good. Her personality doesn't make it really that hard for her to be a baddie and her history gives her a primary excuse for it really. I think Hero had to ask if I had plans to turn Rach into a villain at one point which I answered: Depends on those she's mostly connected to.


Which again, is just great, but I'm starting to see that's a pattern with both existing and new villains. Even on the character page, I count about 6 true-blue villains and 13 heroes. The walking the line characters may occasionally get wrapped up in both, but it leaves those 13 heroes with a lot of people focusing on one or two stories, which is fine. Of course, this doesn't count the unlabeled villains, characters without a CS like Nightmare, Good Doctor, and Forsaken, and Jaqueline, but I'd certainly like to see more public villains with a CS pop up in case we ever want to make a sort of 'Injustice League'. I'm talking about world conquerors, masterminds, people who got henchmen and assassins at their fingertips. Hell, I got some ideas for more villains, and I'm always willing to contribute the foils for my own lore.

However, it's not really a concern, just an observation. I'm not exactly fretting because we're going to run out of ideas, but hey, someone else we can pool into the villain side for the heroes to duke it out with later isn't such a bad thought.
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@NeutralNexus If you're looking for some villainous muscle, that group of metahumans who escaped during the riots are still running around. I was planning on giving them their 'team up' arc after Pax Metahumana.
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I mean if you want a Villain, that's MY personal field of expertise. If you really want a villain, you can just ask and I will deliver the deaths of at least three heroes.
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I mean if you want a Villain, that's MY personal field of expertise. If you really want a villain, you can just ask and I will deliver the deaths of at least three heroes.


Unless those are npc heroes, then killing people is a no-go.
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@Dedonus Obviously they would be discussed, I'm not a heartless monster. Just your average ordinary monster.

Though I am one for the field of: "If you fuck up bad enough to actually get yourself killed you deserve it."

And it too reduces the actual want or need to be a supervillain if they cannot pose any 'real' threat to the hero.

If the sum total of your villainy is barking at the heels of the superheroes and getting your teeth kicked in, of course people are going to be averse to being a villain.
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I will point out that the good doctor does have a sheet.
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Continuing with my previous point. Look towards Umbraxis, the current most powerful Villain. Obviously scary and intimidating, but what sum total did he actually do to hurt our heroes? Umbraxis showed up, got his cosmic buttocks squarely kicked, returned to space where he is currently being shot with rays of light and put through an existential crisis.

Where in that does fear take hold? He's the most powerful opponent yet, and he's already been defeated and is stood still in a cosmic standoff.

It's like Galactus compared to Ozymandias.

Galactus shows up, looks really spooky for a bit, then concurrently fucks off after some artifact shows up to prove to be dangerous.

Ozymandias won 35 minutes before you even arrived.

A villain compared to a real villain.

You have to have some sort of impact in the world that you're in, otherwise you're just another common thug who roughs people up in the street. Maybe a little more fancy than common thugs, but still just the same.

NPC deaths hold no real ground, since they're just NPCs. Unless you have time to make some formative emotional connection between them and the player, nobody is going to miss them.

See my point?
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@Dedonus Obviously they would be discussed, I'm not a heartless monster. Just your average ordinary monster.

Though I am one for the field of: "If you fuck up bad enough to actually get yourself killed you deserve it."

And it too reduces the actual want or need to be a supervillain if they cannot pose any 'real' threat to the hero.

If the sum total of your villainy is barking at the heels of the superheroes and getting your teeth kicked in, of course people are going to be averse to being a villain.


At the same time, a villain should have a deeper motivation than just killing people.

Also, that's what L + R + Start + Select is for. ;)

I will point out that the good doctor does have a sheet.


That is very true.

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Continuing with my previous point. Look towards Umbraxis, the current most powerful Villain. Obviously scary and intimidating, but what sum total did he actually do to hurt our heroes? Umbraxis showed up, got his cosmic buttocks squarely kicked, returned to space where he is currently being shot with rays of light and put through an existential crisis.

Where in that does fear take hold? He's the most powerful opponent yet, and he's already been defeated and is stood still in a cosmic standoff.

It's like Galactus compared to Ozymandias.

Galactus shows up, looks really spooky for a bit, then concurrently fucks off after some artifact shows up to prove to be dangerous.

Ozymandias won 35 minutes before you even arrived.

A villain compared to a real villain.

You have to have some sort of impact in the world that you're in, otherwise you're just another common thug who roughs people up in the street. Maybe a little more fancy than common thugs, but still just the same.

NPC deaths hold no real ground, since they're just NPCs. Unless you have time to make some formative emotional connection between them and the player, nobody is going to miss them.

See my point?


There are a number of things wrong with this post. Most of which I will leave to the gms to handle since it is not my job but I will make a point of something.

In terms of sheer power I believe it is actually a tie between Mercy and Umbraxis as they are equal and opposite forces. Who I might note are both Villains not heroes.
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That was my mistake @Raptorman, The Good Doctor totally does.

And I'm not exactly out hunting superhero heads @LeeRoy, if villains happens to kill heroes, it'll happen, but I'm not looking at it like a contest, just a good story. People are reasonable, and villains don't need to be hero-killers to be interesting or intimidating from my experience.

This is a complied story, from what I see if it'll make the story more dramatic for a villain to win, I'd see it done, but if it makes more sense for a compiled narrative for the heroes to win out, I'd rather see that. This is a story, I'm just seeing how we can make that story better is all.
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@NeutralNexus Mercy post coming soon!™ I had a real rough week with medical issues. But I am feeling better now. :)

Also

@Raptorman You are right. Though Mercy is an Anti-Villain technically. ;)
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@LeeRoy Umbraxis killed hundreds of people and two city level heroes before he was 'defeated.' That would matter in-universe, even if they were NPCs.

Nightmare has successfully defeated multiple player-controlled heroes and continues to allude capture, murdering dozens as he goes.
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