Uh, as a warning before I dump my ridiculously long post oh God I could have written my essays please save me, the Adversary is not meant to be evil. He operates on another level -- "good" and "evil" don't apply to him, because he's meant to test them.

I say this because he does a lot of evil things.

I applaud you for giving him a complex persona than most stereotypical 'devils' and think you have done a good idea thus far, but I'm left wondering confused on one aspect: what exactly motivates him to reward those who do blood sacrifices as such in his name? does he see aiding evil warlocks as just another way to test the rest of humanity? At what point would he stop granting powers to a necromancer/demon worshiper if that one was utterly psychopathic and more than willing to do or give anything for power?

Guys, question:

Would you mind that I made 1 really tree that NEVER fully withers and dies (IE it's forever green) but its leaves are highly poisonous (not Reathos' intend but he's still a child god). It would be a gift to Illunabar cause he thinks she fell sick because of his deadly aura. (would cost 1 FP I guess)

Also he would level up (because the first sentient beings would start dying (The Hain)) and use 1 might to curse 1/50th of the crow population. The curse would be rather simple, crows' eyes see the True Name (a part from the Soul) from every sentient being. Reathos would also be able to invade the mind of a crow (making them his little spy 'birdies') and finally the curse would mean that these crows would search dying and death. Thus almost always when a sentient being dies, a crow would be getting closer to it or it is very nearby.

Any thoughts? I don't want to do anything overpowered or anything. I just thought that the idea of a poison tree gift and death's witness birds would be cool.

@CycloneHe tests people on a case-by-case basis.

Imagine a great sorcerer named Ashmedai. He has an unending thirst for power, to unravel the secrets of the universe, to rule over all in all his majesty. He makes a great deal with Mammon. He will sacrifice anything -- everything! -- for immense, near-endless power.

So Mammon takes his desire for power. He takes his need to unravel the secrets of the universe, and gives him a sense of wonder for the material world. And he grants this Ashmedai the power he wanted. And a reformed Ashmedai is left wandering the world as a peaceful traveller, able to wreak great works but seeing no need for such things.

This is just an example, with a few domains stretched to get my point across. This also only works like that if Ashmedai truly would give anything for power. In this case, it is his resolve for power that is being tested; does he wish for power itself -- or control (the power to use power)?

It's ideals that are tested. An upstanding magical researcher, ardent worshipper of Belru and Vulamera, a pillar of the scholastic community -- convinced that he would be able to work out so much more if he just burned a few books, broke a few deals, and gained the power of a knowledgeable demon. On the other hand, a career warlock would be someone who merely exploited the other material means of acquiring magic -- the Adversary is not the occult, the occult is merely his domain. You could smash a dragon's skull and burn a special herb and cast a herniating curse on your mother-in-law without contacting Mammon at all! But you wouldn't summon demons.

That, or someone who managed to be tempted further and further astray with every summoning. This would be a great king, or powerful priest; someone who would make "worse" and "worse" decisions. This could be for the better -- a Reathite warden convinced that maybe this young child shouldn't be killed this early, or a Logosite's resolve in imperial order shaken.

@Fabulous Knight

Ah, but I'm still left wondering,

At what point would he stop granting powers to a necromancer/demon worshiper if that one was utterly psychopathic and more than willing to do or give anything for power?

To take your example, what if Ashmedai gratefully takes the power and continues to offer sacrifice or whatever he agreed to do in order to gain his abilities, and then proceeds to light the world on fire and kill everything for his own amusement? Does Mammon then come in and test his resolve by saying that he can't do such things, rendering Ashmedai's horrible powers essentially useless for the purpose that he had envisioned? What if Ashmedai now ignores Mammon and tries to keep using what he was gifted?

To take your example, what if Ashmedai gratefully takes the power and continues to offer sacrifice?

He wouldn't. That would be the trade-off. He no longer wants to sacrifice, or use power at all.

@Legion02

I see nothing wrong with the tree idea. Some ambitious mortals might appreciate having poison growing on trees, just waiting to be used.

As in for the crows, has any god even made carrion birds yet? If not, Reathos could and I see no problem with the crows being his spies. It would be interesting for necromancers and the like to fear crows and try to avoid gaining the birds' attention at all costs, and maybe for normal people to keep the birds in cages so as to ward off the undead.

@Legion02Do you mean you'd level up as a result of the Hain dying, or do you mean you'd spend might to level up because the Hain will now be dying?

Also I love your poison idea. Do you mind if the leaves are tied with occult magic? I could see them being specialised herbs for death-magic.

@Legion02

I see nothing wrong with the tree idea. Some ambitious mortals might appreciate having poison growing on trees, just waiting to be used.

As in for the crows, has any god even made carrion birds yet? If not, Reathos could and I see no problem with the crows being his spies. It would be interesting for necromancers and the like to fear crows and try to avoid gaining the birds' attention at all costs, and maybe for normal people to keep the birds in cages so as to ward off the undead.

*Tree, as in singular, growing actually near the rose bush of Illunabar. It would be a little to exploitable if there were an entire breed of it. But still it would be the most potent poison ever so I still think certain heroes might want to go ahead and still take advantage of it.

@Legion02Do you mean you'd level up as a result of the Hain dying, or do you mean you'd spend might to level up because the Hain will now be dying?

Also I love your poison idea. Do you mind if the leaves are tied with occult magic? I could see them being specialised herbs for death-magic.

Reathos will feel the first sentient creatures dying, and level up because of it. But it will still cost him 4 Might to level up. Don't worry, I'm not planning to break any rules. But I just thought that it would be fitting moment to level.

I guess, concidering the nature of the Occult magic, that it would be okay to use them. Just don't do any ridiculous things with it please. (The leaves for example cannot bring people back from the dead. Just like all things Reathos, they are meant for dead and killing and do that and only that very good)

Reathos will feel the first sentient creatures dying, and level up because of it. But it will still cost him 4 Might to level up. Don't worry, I'm not planning to break any rules. But I just thought that it would be fitting moment to level.

That is a pretty good way to level up. Better than my "oh crap I haven't posted in ages -- better make up an excuse" levelling, that's for sure.

I guess, concidering the nature of the Occult magic, that it would be okay to use them. Just don't do any ridiculous things with it please. (The leaves for example cannot bring people back from the dead. Just like all things Reathos, they are meant for dead and killing and do that and only that very good)

I was thinking of mass poisons, or cursing someone's bloodline to all die early -- that kind of thing.

Right. It's lfficial with Mammon. We're not Gods.

We're Daedra.

Right. It's lfficial with Mammon. We're not Gods.

We're Daedra.

I'm clearly Dibella though.

<Snipped quote by Dawnscroll>

I'm clearly Dibella though.

You're the aedra of hookers?

<Snipped quote by Double Capybara>

You're the aedra of hookers?

Well, nobody else is offering themselves for that job.

@Fabulous Knight So..Do Ch'eater's family their souls belong to Mammon now? Or are they free to travel towards the Wraith Stone?

@Legion02They're just dead. Their souls are yours.

@Double CapybaraIt's true, a goddess of beauty is likely to take on that role.

But I don't know, I think beauty of the flesh is more their deal.

That's right.

Jvan is the goddess of hookers.

@Double CapybaraIt's true, a goddess of beauty is likely to take on that role.

But I don't know, I think beauty of the flesh is more their deal.

That's right.

Jvan is the goddess of hookers.

I think we kinda share the domain.
Jvan takes strippers and the more carnal types.
I take geishas and other fancy kinds.

But why would anyone need that anyway? Ilunabar will make waifus real.

But why would anyone need that anyway? Ilunabar will make waifus real.

And I will follow her to the ends of the Earth.

Don't let your dreams be dreams~

I will be getting a post up soon. Either tonight or tomorrow.

. That can protect them and also ensure that intelligent Ashlings don't develop xP

TOO LATE.