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I'm gonna refrain from giving you a lengthy history lessons on that misconception.

Dark Ages weren't Dark.

They were partially cloudy.

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Meh, Europe under Rome and Europe after is a tale of technological, social and civilisational regression that did not begin to fade until the 12th/13th century.
Of course, other parts of the world bloomed during this period, but I speak of Europe. Dark or partially cloudy or very sunny is irrelevant, what is relevant to my point is the regression in Europe which undeniably occurred.

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The Middle East was pretty baller back in the Dark Ages days.

Spain was too, when the Middle East came to say hi.

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The Middle East was pretty baller back in the Dark Ages days.

Spain was too, when the Middle East came to say hi.

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We're in agreement. The Muslim world was experiencing its 'Golden Age', the Mongols would soon come down and spread Muslim dominions and civilisation even further, Aztecs were having the time of their lives - such rich civilisation, architecture, history, religion. India was on a high, China - bloody hell, China. Even Japan was pretty epic. Humanity was pretty cool before colonisation, other than the odd Ghengis Khan, Tamerlane and pyramids of heads (and even that was pretty cool really)

Edit: And that's just humans. Now ANTS...

admittedly Genghis is one of my favorite rulers of all time [+]

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And then America happened.

admittedly Genghis is one of my favorite rulers of all time [+]

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Meh, Europe under Rome and Europe after is a tale of technological, social and civilisational regression that did not begin to fade until the 12th/13th century.
Of course, other parts of the world bloomed during this period, but I speak of Europe. Dark or partially cloudy or very sunny is irrelevant, what is relevant to my point is the regression in Europe which undeniably occurred.

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That didn't happen, either. Economics took a massive hit, but technologically and socially -- things only progressed.

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That didn't happen, either. Economics took a massive hit, but technologically and socially -- things only progressed.

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I'd say that technology and social ethics progressed, but only within the realm of the church - the Dark Age is referred to as such for only the common European villager. Nobles upheld a certain amount of high living and reaped the benefits of such progressions, but a vast majority saw none of it.

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That didn't happen, either. Economics took a massive hit, but technologically and socially -- things only progressed.

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Yeah, all over whether we should have tea and biscuits or tea and khookies
Even Ghengis was in awe - at least he wanted revenge and whatnot, you guys just hated tea with biscuits

@KhoAnd yeah, the king of england in a mud house was more technologically advanced than the roman emperor. I mean, my house is shabby if compared to Babylonian palaces, that doesn't make the Babylonian palace more advanced, they are more complex, and complexity exists without tech.

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That's highly reductionist. Allow me to offer a highly reductionist counterpoint: imagine if your dad lived across the ocean from where you, under his direction, made your house yourself, and then had to continue living under his rules. Rather than giving you an allowance, he takes one from you. Now imagine many thousands of children all doing this for that absentee father. Might this rub you and your siblings the wrong way? Again, this masks the complexity of the situation, but I've acknowledged that it's a crude summary.

I expect you were making a joke though.

So I just lost a post I've been spending the last 3 hours one.

Goodbye.

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Goodbye sweet prince.