@SleepingSilence -- Posting can take awhile, but as stated before, I don't expect the roleplay to be fast-pace. Though, if adaptations have to be made (I don't imagine in current time, but perhaps later on if the turn-order or four day wait presents more problems than imagined), I suppose I can make them... I wouldn't do such without everyone knowing. That'd be rude.

Given that there is a turn order for people to post, yes. If player 3 fails to post for their turn and they are skipped, they will have to wait until it is their turn again to post. Though, this is probably where and when the issue of turn-posting starts to arise; player 3 may be needed for the given situation, such as they are playing with the most interaction at the moment, or about to do something that could change the roleplay's course... I'd like to think someone wouldn't miss their post then, but if it calls for their post being important in the very moment and everyone else agrees, I'll let them post. In exchange, they now have a new turn in the post-order. Such should be discussed OOC since it's a thing that we all should be aware about.

I don't wish to bend over backwards on my rules, but I suppose I can if there is a majority in agreement.

For your turn-order example with eight days, if two players do not go, say 4 and 5 do not go, and they do not say anything about not being able to post (they remain silent), then it can take eight days before 6 can post. If 4 pops in and says they'll post, then players will still be waiting up to four days for 4 to post, implying that 4 takes all those days. If 4 realizes that they can't post in time and let's everyone know in OOC, and allows to be skipped, then I really don't see why we should be sitting around for four days -- then will be the start of 5 to go, and they have 4 days to respond. But yes, implying that two players go silent and use up their four days, it can take eight days for a response. That's pretty long, but I'd like to think such wouldn't happen. Four days is a good amount of time, even if one only ends up making a rough draft outline for others to play along with; I understand that someone may write faster or slower than another, but four days should be a generous amount of time to write the minimum of two paragraphs.

Yes, and I suppose you may be right, but I will be sticking with the rule for now. As much as I would like to expect more to join, I simply can't plan it. Especially now the roleplay is off the ground, I'm not sure how many would be willing to jump in. I don't like to depend on the possibility of it either. It's not promised.



I have to head off to lessons. I'm sure this only complicated things, but I tried.

As for everyone else, when I return from lessons and a bit of packing I shall post my response (now including pings! Wow!).

@Dracogenius Once again, I appreciate the response.

The only thing I will say, the idea of adding a character restriction AND order on top of the original turn order will probably not fix the problem, it will only make it worse. Because if you work that into my characters for instance, trying to limit each turn's post to one character (or whoever was posted first.) That being Eros, Erebus would need to be solely in the second post and since he was going to have a conversation with Eros in my next post. Splitting up characters in a turn order would make my conversation between the two characters literally take forever to complete. It would frankly cripple Wisp or anyone with even more characters than that. And coming up with some weird restriction like these two characters, and these two the next. Would make things unnecessarily complicated.

Also I didn't elaborate on my other idea, because I forgot and didn't feel like writing more. But I'll make it clearer. Yes, you would have to actually explain the rule, before doing it. So everyone signing up would be aware of the rule. It's usually was done for people were busy during certain days and just wanted a friend to post from them. Though I usually use it, to make people characters that drop out of the RP, make their exit or die horribly so people reading have a smoother read and not have characters that appear and never show up again. It's done to make the crazy people that read others RP's to enjoy it more, as it makes it a more cohesive narrative and it gets rid of loose ends. Long going RP's tend to have, that 'one guy' dropping out midway, like so many RP's have. So letting the character being controlled and removed from the RP, instead of just letting whatever they were doing drop suddenly. Is what that idea is meant to achieve, you can't actually do it here because it wasn't apart of the rules. I'm just saying I've heard of RP's with certain rules, but I've never quite seen an enforced turn order. But like I said, I'll see how things go.

@SleepingSilence
Honestly, I'm not seeing the complication. People shouldn't relying on interacting with their own characters - sometimes it's unavoidable, but we all have other characters we can interact with. Aside from the fact that I post for all of my characters in a single post, I counted the interaction between Picard and Cordelia as Picard's post, and Cordelia's post just continued off of it. So there was no problem with having my two characters interact and it therefore doesn't "cripple" me or "literally take forever". It's a simple solution - the dialogue is restricted to a single character's post, since they're your own characters and you're not waiting on anyone else. Then you move on with the rest of your post for that character!

@Wisp
You're not seeing the complication of what? Turn order or his other suggestion. I could show you how absolutely convoluted it could become...and I wrote far too much to respond to this, so I limited it to parts, in case I misread parts of your post.

If I might pop in here for a second? I've always just operated under a self imposed "wait two posts before posting again" rule. The only times I would typically fail to post again after the aforementioned two posts would be either because A: I engaging in dialogue or actions with one specific person where others could not respond, B: I had no idea what to post, or C: I was busy. In the case of the last two I would usually make mention of the issues at hand. I find that waiting for 'X' amount of posts to go by before a person posts again rather than having a turn order is one of the easier ways of getting things to remain smooth. The tricky part is to make sure everyone is properly tagged in a post and/or ensure that two people interacting are not doing so in a manner that would be considered important for plot reasons/ severely interfere with things chronologically. The tagging posts bit is fairly simple, just clicking the mention/quote button will do, though the chronological issue might be a bit more difficult. In the end I find that the best way to solve that issue is by having interactions that have been frozen in place for a bit be mentioned and treated as though they occurred in past tense before having the characters transition over to what ever may be happening currently.

@MonsieurShade Yeah, usually most people try to self censor themselves with posting, to not flood the IC too much. Two posts before you go next is a pretty fair way to go. Usually try to do something similar.

Well, one thing I've seen this forum do often, to solve a problem of interactions by collabing and posting into one big collab. But this RP pretty much forbids that with it's turn order of posts. Though even that kind of goes into some questions I could ask, like they both posted twice, So will they have to do that every single time? Probably not, but it didn't really help. I agree it would be easier, avoiding an exact turn order and the normal common sense approach is easier to remember and gives newbies the ability to jump in at any point. But that's also just my opinion.

(This isn't for you.)
Actually I know of another possible response I may get, like what they meant was something different and I can actually say the other possible option won't work well either. That character turn order meaning. If someone had 3 characters, lets say. A B C. You could post them all in one post or not, but they'd have to be an order lets say B A C. So B would be first, in your post than A. etc. But if we did that with my two characters. Eros was first, so that means Erebus would HAVE to be second.

So to implement this idea. Eros would have to respond to questions that Erebus hasn't asked yet. As Erebus will call him to his throne room to ask him questions, I'd have to respond, to put answers before writing the questions, that would be a literal nightmare to read. So that doesn't work, and is incredibly complicated too...

I looked at this, I stressed. I looked back at this, continued to stress. I absolutely cannot tolerate anymore of this. Cheers, I suppose.

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@Wisp @MonsieurShade @Cubix @AimeChambers @urukhai @SleepingSilence

Rules have been updated. Read them. Specifically the following:

Respond with two relevant paragraphs when you post for each character. There is no posting order, but do not over-post.
A paragraph is three to six sentences long.
Whatever over-posting is to you, don't do it.
Only GM and Co-GM can push time along in the roleplay.
You do not get to say if it's the next day, evening, afternoon, and so on.
Romance and violence will be limited; do not go overboard.
PG-13; Kissing is alright, no sexual content present.
No detailed gore.

No more turn order. I don't know what over-posting may be to you, but just don't do it. Space your posts out as you see fit. I already have a slight dread in having to trust people on this decision. The other rule is present for players' comfort and reading.

No player will advance time in the roleplay; only GM and co-GM can declare when a significant amount of time has passed (a time period that is considerably going from morning to midday, or 9 PM in the evening to 5 AM). Yes, two paragraphs minimum for each character, and that's final. If anyone has any questions, comments, or concerns... I suppose you can PM me, but no promises that they will not go ignored for a little while.

I do not plan to change rules anytime soon after this, and in fact would prefer not to. If clarifications must be made, I will make them. That is all. Back to writing up my IC post. Thank you for your time and eyes.

@Dracogenius I apologize if the discussion was stressful, didn't mean it to be. Read the rules and they're perfectly understood.

@Dracogenius I'm also sorry that this has become a point of stress to you. I've read the update as well.

It is fine. I'm far more calmed down than I was before... I forgive both, assuming it was not within your intentions.

I posted just now, but would like to make a quick note on things (specifically for those pinged in my post already, @Cubix & @urukhai)



In other news, Valentine's post isn't present because he's waiting on Auberon's response to arrive (assuming it's in the middle of being sent) and Caymdahr's response (no rush; just explaining why Valentine isn't being touched upon just yet). I apologize to Wisp if they are stuck without anything for Cordelia at this moment. Cordelia knows how to twiddle her thumbs though, right?

In other news, I hope you all are proud of me for one particular line in my response. Now, I shall proceed to paint my dragon-y nails until more posts arrive.

I read the new rules and sorry if my wording made some confusion, twas not my intent

I detected a pun, and I am not sure how to feel about it.

@urukhai -- No worries! It hasn't brought too much confusion just yet. Though a little bit more clarification will be nice whenever you can, but just keep that in mind for next time.

Nity must find a good way to eavesdrop without being caught! <(^w^<)

@Dracogenius I apologize, but I think I may also drop out of this RP. I have various reasons, but mainly because I have another group I wish to RP with which will require more time, and to your own admittance, this role play will go at a slower pace and I just wanted something a little faster. I figure it won't cause too many problems in the story since your characters are involved with pretty much everyone's beside mine. So I'll just delete my first post, and continue on without me.

Sorry for the inconvenience, hope everything goes well. ^_^

@SleepingSilence
We're sorry to hear that! While it is a little disruptive, with you playing an important role like you are, we're glad you didn't wait to tell us! The roleplay is only just starting, so there's not much inconvenience, don't worry!
Good luck in your endeavors!
Also, can you possibly edit your CS post? Just so nobody new who joins gets confused!

I would love to be queen of the kingdom of Lucifer.

@Emma
That would be fantastic! This roleplay could definitely use some more queens!
(We look forward to a character sheet!)

Ok I was Planning on making the Queen of the Lucifer Kingdom: the daughter of the Original king (Fallen Angel Lucifer/Hades) and his wife the (angel or curse human??) Persephone. I would be taking bits and pieces from the original greek myth. But the queen I am making would be called Melinoe as based off the greek goddess too...

Does that work for this RP?
And if it does work, what race would Melinoe be: Demon, Human, Angel, curse or blessed?

@Emma For easy reference, I'm answering everything in bullet points! If you need clarification, let me know!

• I'm afraid your idea won't work in this roleplay, as interesting as it is. Hades and Lucifer are not interchangeable here. Lucifer is an archangel, and Hades is a god. In terms of power and what they are, they're vastly different in this roleplay.
• Lucifer and the other archangels never ruled the kingdoms that hold their names - the kingdoms were just named in their honour.
• The ruler of the kingdom of Lucifer specifically rules by power - it's a monarchy not ruled by family line, but by whoever fights their way to the top. Sometimes, though, a family line can be powerful enough to hold the throne for an extended period of time.
• For future reference, children of demons and angels work like this; their children are always human. A human child can be possessed by either an angel or a demon, but the child of an angel or demon will always be human, regardless of their parentage. That human child can also be either blessed or cursed by an angel or demon.

I was thinking - if you really want to have a character that's the child of a pair like Hades and Persephone, you could have a demon and a cursed/blessed human that had a child, who would be human, but then was either cursed or possessed by a demon, or maybe even blessed by an angel. It's always interesting to consider a demon parent cursing their own child, though. With that power, she'd be able to hold the throne in Lucifer, as long as whatever her power/ability is happens to be able to be weaponized.
(Her parents could even be the former king and queen of the kingdom - why they would give up the throne is up to you.)