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I will post in a few hours. I will be quite a while...
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This extreme server instability is making reading and navigating unreliable; I will post, along with my initiative when I can. It is evident I missed something significant.
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This extreme server instability is making reading and navigating unreliable; I will post, along with my initiative when I can. It is evident I missed something significant.


I am fully engaged in chat... I CANT STOP TALKING IN CHAT BECAUSE @Sven the Silent.
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@The Harbinger of Ferocity You don't have to/get to roll twice to knock people prone, if you are using the shove action as discussed on PHB p.195-196 under "Shoving a creature". If your first roll succeeds you can just declare that they fall prone (or alternatively push them for five feet). Doesn't seem like you could combine the effects in RAW form, so it's up to the DM to call on that... Sorry about "rules lawyering", I guess I am just too used to doing it. The shove action replaces (up to?) one attack action, so doing both would kinda give you an extra attack.

@darkandstar Would the pickaxes be improvised weapons or something else? War Picks are a thing that exist but these are for mining, not going to war so it probably won't count as that, correct?
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Initiative Roll 10 http://www.roleplayerguild.com/rolls/221

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In many cases, an improvised weapon is similar to an actual weapon and can be treated as such. For example, a table leg is akin to a club. At the DM’s option, a character proficient with a weapon can use a similar object as if it were that weapon and use his or her proficiency bonus.


War Pick has 1d8 piercing.
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@EruditeAssassin Yup, that is what it says. The thing is, war picks are designed to be wielded as a weapon, mining picks not as much. Probably an improvised weapon (so no proficiencies) but 1d8 in damage? I don't know.

Not that it'd matter in Travok's case simply because he doesn't have that type of proficiency anyway.
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Remember that I'm new, so I'm just posting to try and help out with looking stuff up.

Riot Weapons.
Implements and tools are equivalent to weapons, and are given stats equal to a similar weapon, as per the PHB, however they lose the thrown tag if the base weapon had it.
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@Hekazu If i remember correctly improvised weapons do a d4? So that'd be a d4 piercing with the pickaxe.
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@darkandstar That clause is for improvised weapons that do not resemble an existing weapon, and I'd argue these picks are somewhat related to existing weapons. It's your call though.
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@HekazuIt's been awhile since i read it, but that makes sense. I'll allow a d6.
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A quick collection of player initiatives:

So there's that so we'll remember the supposed order of us. Of course, there's still the blank regarding the guards but I though I could help by putting these in the same place.
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So is the order you posted the attack order?
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Oh, we have the full initiative tracker in effect. Guess mine is a bit redundant now then. Anyways, given how the two on the top of the list have already done their thing, it'd be your move @EruditeAssassin.
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Used athletics proficiency; if that was wrong, I'm happy to have a 15 roll over a 17.
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@EruditeAssassin It would be athletics, but you don't have the athletics proficiency. I'll update the response in a second.
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@EruditeAssassin Yah, Athletics does not apply to attack rolls. Generally no skills affect it as it pretty much is just raw attribute + proficiency.

Say, if you were kicking down a door the athletics would likely kick in. Or scaling a wall. Or swimming across a stream. But not on attacks, those run on the attack roll + damage roll system separate from your usual skill checks, much like saving throws. I hope I helped you understand it :)

EDIT: I'm assuming that you were making it as an attack, given the situation.
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@Hekazu That was less the problem, i may even accept that in certain situations, but the thing is, erudite doesn't have athletics. xD
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@darkandstar They... do? At least I see it on their character sheet. The Dragonborn, correct? Tarhun sure does have that box ticked on my end.
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@Hekazu Ah, i figured it out. It was added after i loaded the page, which brings up the question, @EruditeAssassin Why did you add athletics to your sheet?
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It was in the background section for PHB. Maybe I did something wrong?
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