No, um...

They are literally completely useless against anyone with a magitech weapon. They're so vastly outstripped that the best comparison I can make is using a butter knife against someone in a tank.

There ARE magitech ranged weapons that blow mundane guns out of the water in terms of effectiveness.

Basically, guns are thematically inappropriate to the anime-style RPG you're running. Perfectly understandable.

Don't worry about trying all-encompassing worldbuilding justifications. They only raise more questions.

Um... magitech completely outdoes mundane guns, though. Like... that is how the setting I have worked out works.

I mean there's literally no reason to use mudane guns. There's magitech guns if you want to use a gun.

I don't know why anyone would want to use a mundane gun when you can have magical gatling guns with infinite magic bullets that can turn into magic rocket launchers.

Personal preference.

Also an important point is magitech having existed for at least a hundred years in-setting, meaning a lot of your standard real-world guns don't exist at all anyway. ^^;

Since the last time the Gate of Samhain was opened was a hundred years ago... and Ritual Technology was used to force it shut again.

The sociopolitical, economic and technological consequences of that revelation are insane.

Can we just assume that world history still turned out the same instead? Except with magic? Because the amount of things that would have been utterly changed is beyond my brain's ability to process.

Unless simply having a magitech weapon renders you bulletproof (which would also mean swordproof) and/or those magitech guns use none of the user's own mana a normal gun is still an effective weapon.

I know that normal guns are usually totally useless in anime, but that's only because the people who use them learned to shoot at the same place Stormtroopers did and the writers need some way to make it so that only the main cast can save the day.

I'm not expecting one shot kills here (metaphoricaly speaking.) It just doesn't make sense to me that extremely effective weapons suddenly become absolutely and hopelessly outclassed in every way once magic enters the picture.

Important. Do we have instant noodles that cook instantly with magic?

The sociopolitical, economic and technological consequences of that revelation are insane.

Can we just assume that world history still turned out the same instead? Except with magic? Because the amount of things that would have been utterly changed is beyond my brain's ability to process.

Roughly the same, yes.

Unless simply having a magitech weapon renders you bulletproof (which would also mean swordproof) and/or those magitech guns use none of the user's own mana a normal gun is still an effective weapon.

I know that normal guns are usually totally useless in anime, but that's only because the people who use them learned to shoot at the same place Stormtroopers did and the writers need some way to make it so that only the main cast can save the day.

I'm not expecting one shot kills here (metaphoricaly speaking.) It just doesn't make sense to me that extremely effective weapons suddenly become absolutely and hopelessly outclassed in every way once magic enters the picture.

There's a decent amount of Ritual Technology that does render you bulletproof and requiring other ritual technology to actually deal with it. Keep in mind it was initially made to fight monsters... And some of them are contracts with gods.

Not only do a lot of modern guns flat-out not exist an have magitech alternatives to them instead, magitech would still outclass them if they did exist.

Important. Do we have instant noodles that cook instantly with magic?

I don't know if that's quite a necessary advancement.

For the sake of stopping the argument can I just say that my character uses a gun that runs off of mana batteries? My character's main thing uses pretty much all of her mana and it's purely sensory buffs.

Ignore my last post, you all post too fast for me.

It'd probably still fire magical bullets and stuff. I do mention Light Engines for a reason, you don't have to be the best ever with mana to use a Divine Gear effectively.

I'll admit personal mana stuff isn't very fleshed out, but Light Engines generally ensure if you have any, which everyone does, you can use a Divine Gear.

@VitaVitaAR It's absolutely necessary.

Sometimes I'm at home by myself and I'm too lazy to cook up some eggs and rice (and given the simplicity of that, I'm real lazy) right, so I go to the instant noodles and it takes three minutes to cook. I just want to add boiling water and bam noodles right?

I'm not sure that they'll have considered that yet, really.

I guess we'll have to invent it then.

Crimmyyyyyyyyy!

I promised myself that I would lay off of the inventing in this RPG. Don't tempt me.

I hope I'm providing enough anime clichés for an entire RPG.

Given that the magic comes from technology, I think magical instant noodles would be rather... crispy. xD

@Polaris North I'm so sorry, I thought I'd already replied to that post. x_x

@Raineh Daze

It's no problem.

Well it's taken a while but I'm finally ready.

Name: Hikaru Tomo
Age: 17
Gender: Female
Appearance: Black hair of a moderate length is left to hang freely behind the shoulders. A pair of keen dark brown eyes gaze out from behind a pair of black, thick rimmed glasses. A raven's feather sweeps back from the left support strut of the glasses.
Hikaru's only addition to the school uniform is the addition of a belt for her Judgement 12 and it's ammunition. She stands slightly below average for her age group but aside from that she has a perfectly healthy and well developed body.
Personality: Motherly and curious might be the two best words to describe Hikaru. She cares for those around her, doing her best to make sure that her friends and younger siblings stay at their best. It might be helping them study or making health shakes to give an extra boost to a tired schoolmate. Although some debate if the energy boost comes from the drink itself or people's desire to escape. Her shakes can be a little hit or miss.
While not a big fan of fighting herself Hikaru does find some level of enjoyment in how others do so. A favored pastime of hers is watching other students spar and trying to figure out their moves. Although her tendency to think out loud sometimes makes her sound like a narrator to nearby people.
Skills: A fair shot even without the help of her Divine Gear. Chemistry, drawing, cooking(?),
Equipment: Hikaru's primary piece of gear is actually her glasses. Ritual technology is worked into the thick frames.The Divine Gear known as The Raven calls to the myth of Odin's All Seeing Eye. In order to be effective in combat Hikaru has suplimented her loadout with a second piece of gear. The Judgement 12 handgun. It's nothing all that special, a fairly standard Sacrifice Cauldron weapon. However it is sturdy enough to block a blade and compliments her primary abilities well.
Abilities: Hikaru's glasses allow her a limited version of Odin's True Wisdom. Whereas the myth says that the Norse god could see everything everywhere, the Divine Gear is limited to the wearer's field of vision. In addition, such a potent ability requires a large amount of mana. Hikaru is limited to only partial activations, focusing on specific parts of the True Wisdom that she wants to see through.
The Judgement 12 is pretty basic. It has three fire modes, Normal, Armor Piercing and Ricochet. Normal and Ricochet use the same amount of mana although the latter does slightly less damage. Armor piercing takes twice as much mana as the other two but does significantly higher piercing damage. As a Sacrifice Cauldron the weapon takes small iron ingots inserted into the handle and converts them to mana. Each ingot provides enough mana for ten shots.
Brief Backstory: Oldest daughter to a museum curator father and writer mother, Hikaru was helping out around the house from an early age. This became even more true when her two younger siblings were born. It would not be an exaggeration to say that she raised the two twins as much as her parents did. Went to middle school with Rika Kuze.
While she has had The Raven for quite some time, the Judgement 12 is a much more recent addition. After joinging Otsuki Academy Hikaru found herself in want of a weapon for the tournament thatthe school takes part in. Even now that she has some skill with a weapon Hikaru is not planning on a combat career. After graduating from Otsuki she plans on entering a medical collage and entering the medical research field.

Rika Kuze is somebody else's character. Hopefully they will be up soon as well.

Before we can get any further on whether the bio's accepted or not: what the hell does the Divine Gear actually do? "Lets you see things" is a bit vague.