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Hey, some of them might just get their hands chopped off. Plus we likely get s bounty for bringing in prisoners, but having prisoners before the real battle is a hindrance since we will capture more. But I like it, we have a point of debate for rp.


We were kind of sent here to kill them. I don't think we'd be getting a bounty. Plus their crime's not theft.
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The mission is to just 'take care' of the Bandits, right? I mean, wouldn't it be unjust to just outright execute the unarmed and harmless Bandits? Wouldn't it say more for the Iron Roses if they kept them as prisoners to be put to fair trial or even put them through a rehabilitation process to make them into functioning members of society?
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I dunno about rehabilitation, but I think they'd be willing to have them face a Justicar before they are executed if that is how things are done in Thaln. If not then we would probably do our own trial and execute them. Though before a battle I think we would think more on our safety and ability to bring justice to the rest of the bandits. I think we probably would execute this bandits and then take the survivors of the last battle as prisoners. Of course all of this will be Fanilly's ultimate choice which ever way we go 😋
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Yeah, anything Marianne thinks or any which way she feels would be immediately disregarded at Captain Fanilly's order.

But I must ask. Which version of justice are you?

OVER JUSTICE!?


Or JUSTICE?!
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The mission is to just 'take care' of the Bandits, right? I mean, wouldn't it be unjust to just outright execute the unarmed and harmless Bandits? Wouldn't it say more for the Iron Roses if they kept them as prisoners to be put to fair trial or even put them through a rehabilitation process to make them into functioning members of society?


These bandits have:
1) Sacked and looted villages. There's no prize for guessing what happened to the inhabitants.
2) Killed the forces sent to defeat them before.
3) Used a dying man as a messenger, and another injured one as bait. Probably done this sort of thing before.
4) Tried to kill us.

Whilst there might be cause for a trial afterwards, taking prisoners right now is the worst time to do it. Also, would it be just? Well... yes, in the perfectly legal sense; they're outlaws and we were tasked with dealing with them. Also why I don't think any of them are getting away with a slap on the wrist... or axe on the wrist.

And in the 'don't keep enemies at our back' one.
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<Snipped quote by harinezumikouken>

These bandits have:
1) Sacked and looted villages. There's no prize for guessing what happened to the inhabitants.
2) Killed the forces sent to defeat them before.
3) Used a dying man as a messenger, and another injured one as bait. Probably done this sort of thing before.
4) Tried to kill us.

Whilst there might be cause for a trial afterwards, taking prisoners right now is the worst time to do it. Also, would it be just? Well... yes, in the perfectly legal sense; they're outlaws and we were tasked with dealing with them. Also why I don't think any of them are getting away with a slap on the wrist... or axe on the wrist.

And in the 'don't keep enemies at our back' one.


Marianne has a very strong sense of justice, almost naively so as you may see. Which is why there would be an argument until Fanilly diffused it with a direct order. Realistically, I would agree with you on nearly all points. But I'm speaking in the terms of my character and how she would act and think. She is willing to give even the most heinous murderer a second chance at regaining their humanity and pardon their previous criminal acts. xD
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IC, I don't think it would be much of an argument before basically everyone disagreed. <.<
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IC, I don't think it would be much of an argument before basically everyone disagreed. <.<


Then Marianne would stand alone in her beliefs.

EMBARRASSED, BUT UNSHAKEABLE!
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I'll be honest and say I think too much of a debate about the matter might take the RP in a darker direction then intended.

The bandits weren't meant to be too morally challenging of a foe(they're basically our starter bad guys), so while this is okay I don't want it to become a major issue that takes up most of the RP if it comes up. ^^;
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I'll be honest and say I think too much of a debate about the matter might take the RP in a darker direction then intended.

The bandits weren't meant to be too morally challenging of a foe(they're basically our starter bad guys), so while this is okay I don't want it to become a major issue that takes up most of the RP if it comes up. ^^;


Ah, it won't. It's just fun to think about.
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Assuming you're still accepting applications, I've whipped up a character here for the RP.



(I also just noticed I am not the first to appreciate the Kriegsmesser amongst the cast! Also, let me know if anything is off or blatantly wrong. I tried to keep details of his travels vague (Such as if he actually was in the Dwarf city or merely at it) as not to push with lore.)
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Accepted.
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That was surprisingly quick and painless, unlike the deaths of our future enemies.
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You didn't make any lore errors and your character was written just fine and fit the setting, so yeah! ^_^
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@Snagglepuss89

Technically it's more of a langes messer since hers is generallyused one handed, albeit can be wielded two hand if need be.

For two handed use that's where the hammer comes in - good for opening knights cans.
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Hah, well, getting very technical with swords is usually pretty confusing. Grossmesser/Langesmesser/Kriegsmesser I pretty much lump together considering their similarities (Which can get even harder to distinguish if other similar weapons like the Swiss Sabre are added in) for ease of discussion. Sorta like comparing Long Swords to Bastard Swords. @Monochromatic Rainbow
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Enough sword specifics. I have one that would never work IRL. :P
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@Snagglepuss89

Sword terminology does indeed get rather confusing, but it's kinda fun to nitpick all the same!

@Raineh Daze

But we have ones that do!
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I'd like to remind everyone that if you haven't picked a group by tomorrow(and there must be at least one player character per group), I'll be arranging everyone by force. ^^;
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I'm okay, ya?
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