Well we're not in canon, there wasn't any death trooper that believed in The Emperor like a maniac, our characters didn't exist. There was no Heavy Trooper Named Di that killed Jedi. It doesn't have to exist in the Star Wars universe for us to use it. The whole planet will be made up so why not add this artifact? The rebels could have secretly build a base on this planet, hidden for many years, just to study the structure. And as we pass near the planet they want to try out it's power for the first time. We're the practise target. In the end its about having a fun and unpredictable adventure.

Also, they built a Sun Crusher. What's the problem with a pyramid shaped structure destroying one Imperial ship that happens to pass near the planet?

Well we're not in canon, there wasn't any death trooper that believed in The Emperor like a maniac, our characters didn't exist. There was no Heavy Trooper Named Di that killed Jedi. It doesn't have to exist in the Star Wars universe for us to use it. The whole planet will be made up so why not add this artifact? The rebels could have secretly build a base on this planet, hidden for many years, just to study the structure. And as we pass near the planet they want to try out it's power for the first time. We're the practise target. In the end its about having a fun and unpredictable adventure.

Also, they built a Sun Crusher. What's the problem with a pyramid shaped structure destroying one Imperial ship that happens to pass near the planet?

Just because we're not in canon doesn't mean that we can just come up with random shit that makes no in universe sense.

The Rebels do not nearly have enough resources to create a giant sun god temple laser, they barely have enough to keep running from the Empire. Unless the entirety of the Rebel high command had a stroke and thought it would be best to waste resources on creating a mini notDeath Star, there can't be such a project. The RA doesn't have enough supply or manpower and even if they did, why the fuck are they building it on a planet in the middle of no where? Why not build it in space? Why not just do the more tactically sound option and not build it and use those resources and man power in places they could use them like making hidden outposts and sending out more agents and soldiers to do guerrilla war on the Empire?

The issue with you "we're not in canon so it doesn't matter what happens what we do" claim is that while yes its most likely what we're doing never happened in canon, its still relatively plausable. Most if not all of the troopers we made are grounded in enough canon that they could be canonical and super star destroyers going through out space isn't that far fetched. Saying that the rebels would divert precious resources and man power to construct a weapon on a remote planet where it'd probably not see much action is just impossible as the rebels' situation in canon. The Empire needed several world's worth of resources and slave labor to make their Death Star and I'd suspect that the Rebels would need significant logistical capibilites they lack and manpower that would basically require slave labor too to build something like your sun temple cannon, not exactly good for rebel propaganda now is it?

@Azkott I have a far simpler and more logical way to say how the ship got kerfucked.

In a previous stop/shore leave, several rebels jumped a pack of storm troopers, took their equipment and got on board the ship. They then proceeded to get to the hyperspace drive and fuck with it just enough that once the SSD would take off with its escort of other ships, our Super Star Destroyer would come out of Hyperspace jump early around some random planet. Once the ship was out of hyperspace, they'd blow the rest of the ship's systems leaving just enough systems to force it down planet side and make a smooth crash landing that wouldn't blow up the ship.

This concept would make it so that there is a plausible excuse for why the ship got fucked up and had to land (remember, SSDs aren't meant to be anywhere but space) while also giving our characters enough of a chance of survival (wether by escape pods or pure luck) to get it down to relative safety. Then its discovered that there is in fact a rebel based on the planet and that the rebels who snuck on board actually were aiming to get the ship to this planet to try and loot its stuff for supplies.

Such an explanation would also give proper reasoning as to why and how our ship ended up all alone instead of being surrounded by other Imperial vessels which is what would certainly happen most of the time.

I didn't mention anything about actually building the thing. I said they build a base on the planet to study* the structure, understand the ancient artifact. Just to clarify further, the pyramid was already there, on the planet, before the rebels came and occupied it. So all your points except one are invalid. And is that bad of an idea? Maybe an ancient civilizations whose history and existence was erased with time left the structure behind. Is it that implausible? And it was just an idea. I'm not imposing it on anyone.

I didn't mention anything about actually building the thing. I said they build a base on the planet to study* the structure, understand the ancient artifact. Just to clarify further, the pyramid was already there, on the planet, before the rebels came and occupied it. So all your points except one are invalid. And is that bad of an idea? Maybe an ancient civilizations whose history and existence was erased with time left the structure behind. Is it that implausible? And it was just an idea. I'm not imposing it on anyone.

So some ancient race managed to make a super weapon and some how the Empire didn't know about it? The Imperial information network is far greater and deeper than that of the Rebels, the chances of the Rebels finding a planet the Empire didn't know of to begin with is astronomically small, forget even having a super weapon on it. I find it highly unlikely that the Rebels would know of it before the Empire did, if anything just saying that its some old super weapon the rebels just found smells like bad story telling and writing to me.

You know.. I got a Darth Vader comic. Called "Darth Vader: and the Ninth Assassin".

In the comic there was a cult of mutated warlocks that praised a stone gem at the center of their temple. Which erected this light of energy that soared straight into space and sliced several Star Destroyers in HALF.

Darth Vader and a couple Imperial Guards had to go figure out how to stop it.

but it took quite a few Destroyers before Vader vanquished the erratic cult.

I nominate something like this instead of a saboteur.

You know.. I got a Darth Vader comic. Called "Darth Vader: and the Ninth Assassin".

In the comic there was a cult of mutated warlocks that praised a stone gem at the center of their temple. Which erected this light of energy that soared straight into space and sliced several Star Destroyers in HALF.

Darth Vader and a couple Imperial Guards had to go figure out how to stop it.

but it took quite a few Destroyers before Vader vanquished the erratic cult.

I nominate something like this instead of a saboteur.

Why?

If we did this that would mean the ship would be cut in half in space meaning that certainly very, very few people would survive if any and I'm talking about .0001% chances of survival. Also how would they have managed to hit the entire escort while the ships were in hyperspace? Surely at least on escort ship would have survived to get something out.

The entire idea behind this just sounds plain stupid to anyone with a half functioning brain. Also, where the fuck are the rebels in all of this? Do we just end up fighting technomages instead of the rebels now?

Let's just go with @ClocktowerEchos's idea. No point in having him need to shoot down any more.

Not that it hasn't been deserved.

Hey, I got banned.

I'm "Animal".

@Bloodwake What? Why were you banned?

@Bloodwake What? Why were you banned?

For acting like a complete idiot in chat, went off about how he was some sort of wolf persona and how he had the "heart of a wolf". Something about him having an actual soulmate with some female wolf spirit and going out to kill the female's pack since he was "the real alpha and no one else". Also went off about how only he had a soulmate and everyone else only has fake sweet hearts and got angry when people called BS on him and didn't believe his insanity.

I think he also tried to curse a few people to death or something with wolf spirits? I know he threatened me with something like that.

@ClocktowerEchos What? Lmao, yeah ok that's a bit nuts. I thought his whole weird obsession with wolves was a bit strange but this is a whole new level.

Those curses sound pretty dangerous though, might want to get that checked out by your neighborhood witch doctor.

You just want to make this a normal real world army operation but instead of having bullet guns we have laser ones. The ideas were not stupid, even if they had a small chance of happening and what's the problem with that anyway? You see a shit ton of special predicaments with a very unlikely chance of happening in the comics and TV Cartoons. Why should this Rp be about generic troopers with a generic objective?

One more thing, if we go with your plan and have a "smooth crash landing" thousands of troopers are bound to survive it. And taking into equation that we belong in different divisions and units, we would be separated given separate orders by our superiors. The whole point of this Rp is for that 0.001℅ to survive the destruction of the ship and join with the few other survivors. This way we're all in the same place, alone, with no damn giant army backing us up.

A few* rebels masking as Stormtroopers which manage to first-mess with the hyperspace drive and then second-destroy the ship's systems making it crash??? That's even more idiotic. I mean just think about it, a Super Star Destroyer, one of the largest warships ever designed which also served as a command ships with a crew of at least* 280k, taken down by a little group of rebel infiltrators???

You just want to make this a normal real world army operation but instead of having bullet guns we have laser ones. The ideas were not stupid, even if they had a small chance of happening and what's the problem with that anyway? You see a shit ton of special predicaments with a very unlikely chance of happening in the comics and TV Cartoons. Why should this Rp be about generic troopers with a generic objective?

One more thing, if we go with your plan and have a "smooth crash landing" thousands of troopers are bound to survive it. And taking into equation that we belong in different divisions and units, we would be separated given separate orders by our superiors. The whole point of this Rp is for that 0.001℅ to survive the destruction of the ship and join with the few other survivors. This way we're all in the same place, alone, with no damn giant army backing us up.

A few* rebels masking as Stormtroopers which manage to first-mess with the hyperspace drive and then second-destroy the ship's systems making it crash??? That's even more idiotic. I mean just think about it, a Super Star Destroyer, one of the largest warships ever designed which also served as a command ships with a crew of at least* 280k, taken down by a little group of rebel infiltrators???

Jesus christ dude, don't need to vent that much. Its making you seem childish as all hell. You're also acting like you some how know exactly what the GM is thinking or that you yourself have complete control over the RP.

As for the rebel infiltrators, can you recognize everyone in your own school? What if they all wore the same clothes and helmets? Stormtroopers are meant to be faceless and thus its honestly not that hard to pass as one assuming you have knowledge of imperial protocol and given the fact there are such things Imperial traitors, its more than entirely possible. You also need to remember that the Death Star was taken down by whats basically a bit over three dozen fighters meaning it took less than 50 people to destroy a fake moon with at least a few million people on it.

To help get some clearance on this matter and preferably not having to fill this thread up with needless drama, @Azkott would you please come in here and give you final thoughts on this matter?

I'm not venting or acting childish. I'm just trying to convince you by using logic. Your the one violently throwing down other ideas. Actually your strongly imposing your idea to the GM. Why not just throw it there and leave it? No need to tackle other ideas to the ground. And once again I repeat that I wanted the GM to decide without us having an argument over whose idea is put in motion. The way you turned this, it's almost certain that the one who wins the argument gains the GMs approval. And at which point did I even indirectly suggest that I knew what the GM was thinking or undermining his decision? Your full of bullshit.

I hope you lot don't mind this but I am going to leave this RP if we cannot agree on where to go and have no public input from the GM, the whole thing is falling apart.

I hope you all turn this around and make me regret leaving.

The truth is, I went into this Roleplay with what's solely an idea. The Stormtrooper's side of things. However, one of the main issues with this, after the fact, was the idea that each of us individualized our soldiers to the extent of making them into different classifications; no one's fault, but my own. I thought it would be grand, but hadn't thought about just what would force us together.

This leads us to the starship on which we've opened up, and the dilemma which arises with it. I have heard alot of outlandish, downright mythical elements within the Star Wars Universe, but to have a vessel torn asunder in deep space sort of destroys the possibilities of survival; however, a small group of rebels successfully sabotaging a vessel of this size is equally bizarre, despite the fact that I initially suggested it.

Now, I believe that since they are this far out in deep space, I highly doubt they'll be fighting rebels to begin with. In these distant realms of the universe, we can create whatever we wanted; which brings me to my next idea, and likely one which may seem possible, in all honesty.

A pitched battle in the depths of space, above a contested planet, would likely result in the destruction of the vessel, as well as the survival of a select few. What occurs within the vessel, whether it be boarded, forced to crashland or downright blown up in space, would still allow for the survival of a few, if they worked fast enough. You'll have to forgive my absence; I've basically roleplayed only sparingly since school began. GM'ing what was basically an idea with no direction has proven more difficult than I've expected, though now, I am not surprised.

So, my deepest condolences to all those who've bickered over this lack of continuity; if this idea settles with either agreeing parties, we can roll with it.

The truth is, I went into this Roleplay with what's solely an idea. The Stormtrooper's side of things. However, one of the main issues with this, after the fact, was the idea that each of us individualized our soldiers to the extent of making them into different classifications; no one's fault, but my own. I thought it would be grand, but hadn't thought about just what would force us together.

This leads us to the starship on which we've opened up, and the dilemma which arises with it. I have heard alot of outlandish, downright mythical elements within the Star Wars Universe, but to have a vessel torn asunder in deep space sort of destroys the possibilities of survival; however, a small group of rebels successfully sabotaging a vessel of this size is equally bizarre, despite the fact that I initially suggested it.

Now, I believe that since they are this far out in deep space, I highly doubt they'll be fighting rebels to begin with. In these distant realms of the universe, we can create whatever we wanted; which brings me to my next idea, and likely one which may seem possible, in all honesty.

A pitched battle in the depths of space, above a contested planet, would likely result in the destruction of the vessel, as well as the survival of a select few. What occurs within the vessel, whether it be boarded, forced to crashland or downright blown up in space, would still allow for the survival of a few, if they worked fast enough. You'll have to forgive my absence; I've basically roleplayed only sparingly since school began. GM'ing what was basically an idea with no direction has proven more difficult than I've expected, though now, I am not surprised.

So, my deepest condolences to all those who've bickered over this lack of continuity; if this idea settles with either agreeing parties, we can roll with it.

GMing is not an easy feat, especially if you're new. I would generally advise people to first go into a few RPs to get to know the site, its culture and just to get your name around before starting an RP instead of jumping right into GMing within the first week. I'm willing to give some personal tips if you feel like listening, maybe you'll learn something from it.

I'm all for the space battle option but again, I'd like details and what kind of fleet managed to take out an SSD (although we could easily say that the SSD's thrusters got damaged and couldn't get out of the way of another ship just kamakizing itself into us after it got knocked out, that would definitely do a good deal of damage to the ship). Honestly, I'm willing to listen to whatever you come up with assuming you provide clear details and such as to not have a repeat of what happened before. I would also advise forming a rough plot road map in your head, doesn't have to be 100% fleshed out but it should be good enough as to let you know what should happen next after everything roughly.

Good luck mate, I have a feeling that you still may turn this RP into something pretty interesting.

@ClocktowerEchos Thanks, friend. This is probably the biggest hurdle, to be honest. I'd need to take my time to try to map out the events that would spur this roleplay forth, and likely increase my writing capacity.

So, I've been out of this discussion so far, didn't want to pour fuel on the fire.

The main thing we need to think about here is what kind of situation we want to put our characters in (on the planet). Are we alone or is there other groups like ours but we got separated on the way down?
In the first instance I could see a catastrophe similar to what Anarchy described happening. Because of the extremely low survival chance it would make sense that we're the only ones who made it.
If we're supposed to have backup somewhere I'd use something like Clocktower's infiltration-idea, much higher chance of us running into friends along the way.

Personally I like the idea of us being alone, but the whole "mystical artifact that can kill everything" just doesn't sit right with the setting. Personally I'd modify the infiltration-idea and simply make their attack so stealthy that the soldiers didn't have a clue until it was too late and simply blow the ship to kingdom come.