In any case, post comes as soon as Rtron gets on.

In any case, post comes as soon as Rtron gets on.

You SHOULD have a pretty good reason as to why there's a hole in geography of Galbar, considering Lazarus is just a Demi.

Bee tee dubs, the Codex reveal is close at hand.

@poog the pig Wait, what? What Codex reveal? Pretty sure one of Vowzra's last acts was to put that thing safely to rest...

Is this new map business and 'Codex reveal' Cyclone and Rtron scheming behind my back? I will not stand for any kind of coup, ya hear? *cracks the long dormant Fire Whip*

@poog the pig Wait, what? What Codex reveal? Pretty sure one of Vowzra's last acts was to put that thing safely to rest...

Is this new map business and 'Codex reveal' Cyclone and Rtron scheming behind my back? I will not stand for any kind of coup, ya hear? *cracks the long dormant Fire Whip*

As in it's location. I was telling Rainbow, because Lazarus seemed interested in finding it.

@poog the pig Lazarus knows where it is? Someone already cracked the intricate series of hints and puzzles I littered throughout the IC as to its location? 'tis impossible. 'tis heresy!

@poog the pig Lazarus knows where it is? Someone already cracked the intricate series of hints and puzzles I littered throughout the IC as to its location? 'tis impossible. 'tis heresy!

Heresy is a sin.

@poog the pig Lazarus knows where it is? Someone already cracked the intricate series of hints and puzzles I littered throughout the IC as to its location? 'tis impossible. 'tis heresy!

Nah, he just seemed intent upon chasing it. He'll have to go through the Vowzrian Trials to find it.

@Kho He's done nothing else over the past decade but eaten fruits that are mostly caffeine, getting socked in the teeth by the gap, and having a sex change into a bird robot. I think it would make sense that he would at least have a lead by now.

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Heresy is a sin.

We've had this discussion before Loki. Heresy isn't a sin. If you read Peter Abelard's Ethics, where the nature of sin is discussed, you'll find therein a very convincing definition of sin, that is: a sin is where one consents to doing something which they know is wrong, or which they know God disapproves of, and in so consenting they are in fact showing contempt to God. It is this consent and contempt which is the true sin, and not the action itself. Thus, where one commits adultery, it is not the act of sleeping with another man's wife which is the sin, but the mental consent to doing what God disapproves of, and thus the contempt of God shown by such consent. Where one commits adultery and such consent does not exist, and thus no contempt, one cannot be said to have sinned.

Likewise with heresy! How can one who believes himself to be worshipping God as God has commanded be consenting to do what God has forbidden, and thus be showing contempt to God?

Edit: #TotallyNotTrollin'Anyone

Edit Edit: Perhaps this was the wrong forum to go off on one about the nature of sin. But I've been dying to go off on one ever since I got close to finishing that damn book >.> was planning to have a Victors post on the nature of sin actually. Might still do it xP

Edit Edit Edit: Also, the argument concerning the nature of sin is deeper than the above, but it's what I could come up with from memory >.> if you are interested, read the next Victors post! Coming soon in a Khovinus post near you.

@poog the pig@Muttonhawk I'm going to be honest and say this.

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We've had this discussion before Loki. Heresy isn't a sin. If you read Peter Abelard's Ethics, where the nature of sin is discussed, you'll find therein a very convincing definition of sin, that is: a sin is where one consents to doing something which they know is wrong, or which they know God disapproves of, and in so consenting they are in fact showing contempt to God. It is this consent and contempt which is the true sin, and not the action itself. Thus, where one commits adultery, it is not the act of sleeping with another man's wife which is the sin, but the mental consent to doing what God disapproves of, and thus the contempt of God shown by such consent. Where one commits adultery and such consent does not exist, and thus no contempt, one cannot be said to have sinned.

Likewise with heresy! How can one who believes himself to be worshipping God as God has commanded be consenting to do what God has forbidden, and thus be showing contempt to God?

Edit: #TotallyNotTrollin'Anyone

Edit Edit: Perhaps this was the wrong forum to go off on one about the nature of sin. But I've been dying to go off on one ever since I got close to finishing that damn book >.> was planning to have a Victors post on the nature of sin actually. Might still do it xP

Edit Edit Edit: Also, the argument concerning the nature of sin is deeper than the above, but it's what I could come up with from memory >.> if you are interested, read the next Victors post! Coming soon in a Khovinus post near you.

Evrything I know is a lie.

@Kho Nice long text Kho, but you forgot the one rule: Sin always auto-win.

I would just really appreciate if people talked about stuff before transforming large areas of land into water : >

Especially now that we are entering the more civilized ages.

Last major sudden land change. Promise.

It deals with the problem of the Pronobii (most of them at least), Vestec's chaos Pronobii, and that nasty horde of undead Reathos had unleashed upon the Chaos Pronobii to stop the systematic extinction of his own.

@Rtron Fine. I will just adapt my cultures of the south to be more nautical instead of mountains and plains people. Too bad I don't have the might to make some neat island or something.

@Rtron Fine. I will just adapt my cultures of the south to be more nautical instead of mountains and plains people. Too bad I don't have the might to make some neat island or something.

Isn't the South, before it got liquefied, literally just ice that the Pronobii and some people in caves can survive in?

If you want an island or fifty for them, I can have Vestec make them while doing this.

@Rtron Eh, positioning changes a lot, but the last bit of the First Parade was going to be in the south, probably around where the shoreline current is. Of course, this changes a lot of stuff, a group of people who before lived in the middle of the land now live on the beach and all that. But I can change that, no probs.

Anyway, islands would be cool, yes. Simply because Galbar has very few islands.

@Rtron Eh, positioning changes a lot, but the last bit of the First Parade was going to be in the south, probably around where the shoreline current is. Of course, this changes a lot of stuff, a group of people who before lived in the middle of the land now live on the beach and all that. But I can change that, no probs.

Anyway, islands would be cool, yes. Simply because Galbar has very few islands.

Anything else? Vestec literally is just randomly making lands and shit so as not to flood the world by accident, so anything is possible.

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In the works:

1. Part 3 of the Luna collab I have going on with Vec
2. A collab involving Zeph himself that explains what the hell he made on his little world and all that
3. A single post with Ventus organizing his djinn and interacting with the mortals
4. The elementals fighting Vestec's horde, which will happen whenever Stand is finally done

We can chuck a collab of elementals vs. Change Eaters somewhere into that pile if you want.

We're really, really close to finishing. In fact, all the fighting is over and we're just doing the closing dialogue.

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call me when that happens. Basheer and all that...>.>

You get in on the sole condition that you don't hijack the collab like last time.

A sneak peek at the updated map after an incoming post:
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Goodness! What happened to the oceans?
>reads later posts
Ah, Vestec did it. That makes sense.

@poog the pig Lazarus knows where it is? Someone already cracked the intricate series of hints and puzzles I littered throughout the IC as to its location? 'tis impossible. 'tis heresy!

Last I checked, Lifprasil was actually present when Vowzra did whatever he did to the Codex. Nothing stops him from telling whoever he likes.

We can chuck a collab of elementals vs. Change Eaters somewhere into that pile if you want.

Heckie no! Everyone has enough backlog work already. We'll leave that particular kettle of fish until the more immediate events settle down.

You SHOULD have a pretty good reason as to why there's a hole in geography of Galbar, considering Lazarus is just a Demi.

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Anyway, we'll sort out whatever inconsistencies when they happen.

Only thing to note on my end with regards to geography is that the center of the Fractal Sea, the upside-down-blunt-heart-shape (cardioid), won't be changing in shape too much, or getting islands other than Julia. It's mentioned in its creation sheet that that specific area gets unnaturally deep (REALLY, REALLY, DEEP) very quickly, so much so that the surrounding oceans fall into it like a ten-kilometre-high underwater cliff.

Also, its peninsula appears to be inside out. The bit leading up to Jvan should be a long, narrow strip of land heading north in an ocean.

@Antarctic Termite
One thing that I always wondered about is if Chroma gets to at least feel a link with other change eaters, idk at what point the heavy mods and anime textures cuts off online support.

Might be relevant when the Realta attack the group, I think.